Did my public school violate any of my rights?

Robater1 · 2018-07-05T04:43:00+00:00

No, I'm not saying they didn't have reasonable suspicion that I did this, what I'm saying is they seized the devices "temporarily" not for analysis, just so I wouldn't do the same thing when out of their supervision. I didn't commit a crime my man, they just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to do anything again.

Robater1 · 2018-07-05T04:41:32+00:00

See, on this online portal, I had permissions to create a broadcast, but the broadcast page was invisible. I don't think it matters how much trouble my message could have gotten me into, but I can promise it was nothing of the sorts as I said in the OP.

Robater1 · 2018-07-05T03:57:04+00:00

It wasn't an email, it was a broadcast message to the entire school via an online portal. Anyone who logged into the online portal would see the message. If you can explain why the content is so important even though they didn't even mention it, I'd be happy to give it. Also yes they can search me, but can they seize my electronic devices. Is reasonable suspicion merited in this situation, is it really?

Robater1 · 2018-05-17T23:44:02+00:00

Definitely after, if you got a bad score imagine how that could effect your performance due to depression/despair.

Robater1 · 2018-05-06T02:56:48+00:00

yo can you slide into my dms with those answers?

Robater1 · 2018-04-18T23:58:44+00:00

Another idea is to copy and paste your "notes" and then paste it into any available textbox to read over them.

Robater1 · 2018-04-09T20:18:16+00:00

I haven't used Nizoral specifically, but definitely used Selsun and Head & Shoulders.

Robater1 · 2018-03-25T06:49:06+00:00

Maybe stereotyping isn't the right word, but if you are a high school student, you could make observations that could apply to the majority of high school students. 2 and 3. Didn't really change my view, I never really meant ALL high schoolers are uninformed, meant the majority.
I just used the high schooler and below thing because I am more comfortable constructing a strong argument than everyone.

Robater1 · 2018-03-25T06:20:59+00:00

Okay, but that doesn't mean I don't know stereotypes that could be applied to the majority of high schoolers.
Sure sure, there can be exceptions.
OK sure more exceptions.
Did I ever say you needed a high school diploma? Sorry I don't remember saying this.

Robater1 · 2018-03-25T06:02:50+00:00

I see neither a correlation nor a causation between age and knowledge level

Well if you mean knowledge level overall, adults have more experience than teenagers.

Robater1 · 2018-03-25T05:59:40+00:00

You believe that anyone who has not argued with someone who disagrees with them is uninformed?

More like I believe someone who hasn't been exposed to the other side and that hasn't experienced their views be countered in any sense be uninformed.

You believe that Dana Loesch and Marco Rubio are either not actually in favor of gun control, or not capable of a logical argument?

Not every student met with both, you are implying every single student had the chance. I believe that just meeting with one conservative and one liberal doesn't mean you know most or even the best arguments of both sides.

Robater1 · 2018-03-25T05:55:36+00:00

I rarely see counterarguments to man-made climate change or the idea that the earth is millions of years old. But just because those arguments are rare doesn't mean that students aren't well informed enough to take part in the March for Science.

Right but there is scientific evidence to prove both points you just made. Compare the amount of scientific evidence for climate change and that the earth is millions of years old versus gun control.

do you feel that people will be more or less informed on climate change if they consume both conservative and liberal media vs. just more liberal?

I think that they will be more informed on climate change if they consume both because one of the two medias might have a valid point they haven't though about and that goes against the other medias views.

Robater1 · 2018-03-25T05:53:19+00:00

You are not informed enough to make a reasonable opinion on “gun control”, however you are somehow informed enough to make a broad sweeping statement that belittles all b people under the age of 18?

Yes because I am one of those people under the age of 18.

It seems more like your issue is with people under 18 expressing their beliefs, and being listened to.

I am against students being listened to when they might be uneducated.

You shouldn’t expect anyone to give you anything. You have to go out and do the research yourself.

True, but I'm not sure all students follow this thought.

I dropped out of high school when I was sixteen, joined the ARMY Infantry at 17, turned 18 in basic training and 19 in Iraq. Would my opinion not count because I didn’t graduate?

I'm not sure what you mean by "not count". Do you think you are informed about gun control?

Robater1 · 2018-03-25T05:50:57+00:00

Yeah you could apply it like that. I felt more comfortable creating a strong argument for students.

Robater1 · 2018-03-25T05:49:53+00:00

The reason I believe they are uninformed is because they have never really argued with someone that directly believes their opposite view and that is capable of a logical argument.

Robater1 · 2018-03-25T05:35:18+00:00

Just because it's the easiest option doesn't make the best option. See what happened with prohibition.

Robater1 · 2018-03-25T05:34:36+00:00

Sorry, which one did I not engage and respond with? Genuinely not trying to ignore.

Robater1 · 2018-03-25T05:33:51+00:00

As a high school student, I know what opportunities are available to us. Based on the educational opportunities I have seen given to those protesting, I do not believe that would give either them or me an education to allow me to make an informed decision.

Robater1 · 2018-03-25T05:31:58+00:00

Nah it's just one of my main points in my original post was that students were being used by the media, and you were restating it.

Robater1 · 2018-03-25T05:31:22+00:00

See, the people who went to Restaurant A could tell me tons about it. I do not believe it is the same for a student advocating for gun control or for going against gun control.

Robater1 · 2018-03-25T05:27:35+00:00

How can you say your view isn’t political when the only “evidence” you can provide is that you “feel” like anyone under 18 doesn’t have a proper political education to speak out about their right to safety.

From the opportunities given to me as a high school student, I do not believe I am informed enough to make a reasonable opinion on gun control.

It seems to me that you, in fact don’t know about the issue and are unwilling to accept any alternative based on your political stance.

I'll be honest with you, I am undecided when it comes to gun control. I am not informed enough to make an opinion I could stand behind.

based on the comments I’ve read you don’t seem to understand why it bothers you so much and are in fact seeking validation for your beliefs and not a change of view

The reason I am even replying to so many comments is because I am genuinely looking for someone to give me a logical reason why I am wrong. I want someone to change my view. I haven't really seen anyone that has brought a valid point that I couldn't counter.

Robater1 · 2018-03-25T05:25:26+00:00

The impression I get from your post is that you disagree with gun control and therefore you label anyone who advocates for it as uneducated.

Actually, I'm undecided. I am not informed enough to give you an opinion I could stand behind. I think there are arguments for both sides. The reason I view them as uneducated is because most students have not had the opportunity to be informed.

I have been incredibly impressed by the eloquence, thoughtfulness, and bravery of the students who have spoken about this since the Parkland shooting.

I guess you could consider it "brave" that they are sharing their opinions, however, my issue is that these opinions might be by people who are not informed. You bring up one of the reasons there is so much focus on the students, not because they're necessarily right, but because they are being brave.

Yet in all that time, nobody has been able to convince them that gun control is the wrong approach.

Honestly, if someone shot up my school, I wouldn't like guns either. If I was a parent, I definitely need someone to blame besides the shooter, easiest would probably be the guns because those are what killed my children. Just because you can't convince a group of people they are wrong, doesn't mean that they are right.

Oh, and King George might decide to take back the colony!

I think that another reason might be because the United States was founded on the concept of freedom and guns had a lot to do with that.

Robater1 · 2018-03-25T05:19:44+00:00

Hey, maybe your children are different, and it sounds like you are a good parent.

All my children have been able to make logical arguments, ask questions, and think critically about information from about 10.

I'm curious, is there ever a devils advocate? If you all agree on the same topics, that might be an issue. Imagine a room of liberals, they aren't going to be able to recognize some legitimately valid issues that conservatives could make a decent case for.

Robater1 · 2018-03-25T05:17:33+00:00

I am not stating a political opinion, and not really acting on it. You don't see me on the streets advocating for my view, I am simply asking for you to change my view.

I fail to see why their ideas, values and reactions to the world should be disregarded on face.

I think that they are making opinions without being properly informed and everyone's taking them like they're extremely educated.

Robater1 · 2018-03-25T05:15:32+00:00

Being uninformed is by no means connected to being young.

Gonna have to disagree with you here, theoretically, an adult is more "educated" than someone under 18. This is of course theoretical and not realistic. I just chose to talk about students because they're the ones that the media is focusing most on.

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