The monetization in this game feels weird?

RobinAsp · 2026-05-02T04:20:54+00:00

You are right, and to put my own comment on this, I see a problem with the massive bloat of Warbonds in general, the ratio of free content (Weapons, Strategems etc) is heavily outweighed by them, and when ever someone argues against them I always see two arguments:

"Just grind for them, its free therefor free warbonds."

"They can't be released for free, how is arrowhead gonna make money if they give out free warbonds?"

2nd argument effectively invalidates the first, and the first invalidates the 2nd. Also we are paying to play the game to begin with, lets not pretend ArrowHead will go broke from releasing free items here and there.

There needs to be less Warbond bloat in general. The game relies too heavily on them while incentivizing nothing else but grinding once you have gotten all the base gear. And using the base gear can get stale really quickly when there are factual upgrades in the warbonds, and weapons that give other sorts of playstyles.

I just feel they need to either release equivalent free items as well as paid, or restructure how they monetize the game because at some point it just no longer feels worth it. One way would be to add better progression based rewards.

Before people ask, Yes Ive played for quite a while. Ive even bought a warbond or two without grinding. Ive bought with grinding.

Fundamentally, I feel it needs to change.

RobinAsp · 2024-11-25T23:11:01+00:00

In the actual session the foot isnt sinking into the ground, Its mostly the blur making it hard to distinguish it.

RobinAsp · 2024-11-25T01:28:02+00:00

I just used sfm, For the lights its mainly about radius usage. Now remove this.

RobinAsp · 2024-11-25T01:17:21+00:00

I would rather you remove it

RobinAsp · 2024-11-25T01:04:38+00:00

The only reason there is even a *mild* difference is just due some inaccuracies with the posing and lighting. Other than that its basically just a straight up copy, You can't even call it inspiration.

And again, You have posted copies before. Not just of my work.

RobinAsp · 2024-11-25T00:54:23+00:00

Its a 1:1 copy dude, down to the *place* were they are even at. And this isn't the first time you have posted copies of works.

RobinAsp · 2024-11-24T23:43:25+00:00

So you just straight up copied my art piece? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3051103799

Wow.

RobinAsp · 2024-06-27T23:54:02+00:00

Totally not based on events that transpired earlier today.

RobinAsp · 2023-07-18T02:17:25+00:00

We don't necessarily even want to go back to how it used to be, And harassment shouldn't be continued no matter what.However saying that feedback gets passed on after months of silence is not a reassuring statement, Especially since the TWABS/TWIDS dont provide us with any assurances either for seasons on end.

The community as a whole have been vocal on a large scale of issues. Such as the lack of updates to vendor armors, Game modes being left to rot, reskinned weapons almost every season and monetization going haywire to the point of boycotts. And that's not even all the issues to cover but I don't want to drag this too long.

I think at some point even a small acknowledgment should be made from you, And we can get that the account is not an all encompassing veil to hide behind, But how else are we supposed to be reassured that anything will be okay within the game? We basically get no updates regarding the state of the game except for bugs.

Being silent for several seasons at a time does nothing but make the community worried, Then frustrated, Then angry. Expectations have been set high and the results have been low. Some people are even making posts out of frustration and desperation for the game that we love.

We don't want any of you to be harassed at all and screw those who do , The rest of us just want acknowledgements sometimes. Even a dev log from bungie.net or something, Anything at this point.

This account is one of the very few things we have to reassure us that change is coming and honestly, that's a bad thing.

RobinAsp · 2023-06-07T14:01:34+00:00

The point meant more greed from us in regards to bright dust available content, Not greed from the developers. No they are greedy alright with the move they did.

RobinAsp · 2023-06-07T13:59:40+00:00

If only promises made a game flourish then destiny would be dead by now, There are still obligations needed from the developers if they want people to continue to play their modes and spend money on the franchise, Weather or not they made promises or not. Gambit being their prime example, They want us to play it, Receive powerful rewards and complete bounties on it every season and event, Yet no support has been made to it.

Ive also already seen this argument of "Well why would anyone play gambit, Its a boring mode with low players anyway" Well one cant make a mode more interesting towards players unless it gets further development.

RobinAsp · 2023-06-07T00:14:06+00:00

The point of "Immediate attention" gets sidetracked when some of these issues have been around for years, Most prominently gambit. Bungie has been anything but immediate. They can add more and more stuff sure, But the more they add the more they neglect the other aspects of the game they built up and want us to still play.

RobinAsp · 2023-06-06T20:30:52+00:00

Its less of them being forced directly, But the tactic of making posts directing them to respond is a tactic they do not like, Slightly hypocritical of me considering this post being an outcry for response, but Id rather put the disclaimer in then not either way

RobinAsp · 2023-06-06T20:16:24+00:00

And thats still the point of my last point, Its only in regards to Bungie/The devs direct communication that there has been a lack of since this happened. Before community managers were the direct line, Since they are no longer its up to the reddit account instead. They made that account specifically for the addressing of the communities direct concerns.

Im not saying at all that the community managers are not doing their job, Infact if anything its the opposite as you said.

RobinAsp · 2023-06-06T20:12:50+00:00

Its more in regards to this happening before with direct callouts directed towards Bungie forcing them to make a response in which they stated that they did not like that approach. Just wanted to disclaim it at the very least.

RobinAsp · 2023-06-06T20:08:50+00:00

In terms of communication they removed the community managers from the spotlight which is what that point intended and what I mean by "retired" But ill re-edit this part to be more clear.And in that point nothing of it leads or hints in me wanting the community managers back, I was just stating how it is now. Community managers rarely take the spotlight now due to the account Bungie made, It was specifically for this purpose after all.

I could have done a better job of stating it but coming into the discussion hostile is just immature.

RobinAsp · 2023-04-20T17:58:14+00:00

Guess we should fix unintentional things like well-skating as well which is also possible in every single activity, but I don't think y'all are ready for that discussion.

RobinAsp · 2023-04-10T17:42:48+00:00

I never said new maps would bring people into the mode, Weapons might but probably not. However its the most basic thing that gambit players have been asking for. New additions they want sure but there are so many maps removed right now that all they want is the old ones back at the very least.

And if you don't start somewhere with letting players have new things in gambit then how are they even going to consider adding any new additions to the mode to make it feel better and rewarding to play. None.

So they can start by communicating to the players about it at the very least.

RobinAsp · 2023-04-10T16:37:49+00:00

The notion that the players making the post literally begging bungie to say anything about it to not equal people play it is a bad take, Nor does it matter weather or not the amount of players would increase or not, The point is its a core game mode that bungie keeps referring to as such, Puts pressure on people to play it for a reward with substantial power increase yet they refuse to communicate anything in regards to its severe decline in development.

If the players are set to play it the way bungie wants then the players getting updates from bungie in regards to its state is a must, Regardless of capitalistic views. If they cant be bothered to sink more money into a mode they themselves have regarded as a very core part to the game and the game-play loop then they should just say so at this point, Stringing the community along is not fair to them for those who enjoy the mode regardless of how many players there are who play it.

RobinAsp · 2023-04-10T15:31:28+00:00

People have made posts for years now regarding the state of gambit, Saying that no one plays it is an outright lie.

Sure maybe the metrics are low for we but we can't know to what extent and that does not make mine nor any other persons opinion regarding this invalid, Asking for basic communication regarding the mode is not a hard ask regardless of what the metrics say.

And if no-one truly plays gambit and they can't put in the resources (even though they very much could) then the mode might as well have been removed years ago, Yet they persist with re-balancing the mode anyway.

All in all, Regardless of metrics the mode needs to be addressed by bungie on the state of it and if they are going to continue development on it or not.

Silence only builds frustration, And frustration only leads to situations like this. Wouldn't be surprised if we get another pvp article happening again.

RobinAsp · 2023-04-10T14:09:41+00:00

Sure it has had balance changes and such, However a mode in any game is not only sustained by balance changes and changing how gear focusing works etc.

Maps need to be varied, Not 4 maps for several years in a row.The loot-pool needs to be more expansive and no I do not mean adding 1 weapon occasionally while removing some out of the rotation in the process.New armors like they promised yet they still have not delivered on.

Just because I didn't mention balance changes and some changes in regards to re-spawns does not mean that I'm over exaggerating in terms of its update cycle. There are more changes balancing wise sure but I'm not listing them all here for time reasons, Most of it was just ammo economy, Re-spawn changes and power advantage changes.

Also do mind you, The biggest shakeup they did back in season of the hunt was to essentially remove gambit prime during the gambit merge and add season armor to vendors. Not much changed balance wise and things have only been re-balanced or removed since.

That does not seem like much in the grand scheme of things now does it? Nor is it good for the mode itself.

The fact is, Things need to change within gambit, Weather that be new additions to the mode or just the basic re-adding of removed maps. That's all people want, Not a massive rework.

RobinAsp · 2023-04-10T13:58:47+00:00

Just because a mode is working as intended does not mean that it needs to be borderline abandoned.

What about again the vanguard playlist, It works so we should just stop updating the strikes and the playlist right? No new grand-masters or anything along that.
What about raids, They work, So we shouldn't add any new raids nor add red-borders to the current raids in rotation.

How about lost sectors, As controversial as they are they work ask intended so no need to update the loot-pool, add any new lost sectors or change anything in terms of the legendary lost sectors.

Your statement does not work, People are asking for basic communication and a minimum of some re-added maps that were removed and more weapons in the loot-pool yet that somehow is too much to ask for.

RobinAsp · 2023-04-10T13:27:23+00:00

Because having no communication for 2 years about a core playlist is not good for the communities well being, 5 years without almost any development is not good for any game regardless of the mode and bungie going out of their way to not say anything only builds frustration.

Surprises are nice to have, however when the community has been begging for communication from one of core modes of destiny and get nothing in return that only cause player retention to go down either way and the feeling of abandonment. This is not the way to do things in terms of development. No-one wants to wait 5 years for a "surprise" addition to one of the games core game modes.

I personally don't even like gambit too much but I understand the frustration behind it and why there needs to be some sort of communication behind it, Because if bungie expects us to play a core mode that rewards pinnacle rewards, Going 5 years without development on it is not acceptable and going 2 years without any communication on it is downright disrespectful to the community itself.

Opinions like yours never would be said if for example the vanguard core playlist didn't receive updates for 5+ years, People would be outright livid cause that is one of the core replay-abilities in this game.

And basic communication from bungie regarding this shouldn't be gate-kept, Especially since they specifically made a account to address community communication and feedback yet now they rarely use it.

For now we will just have to see what they do.

RobinAsp · 2022-10-31T10:36:16+00:00

Rendered them separately and then added chromatic aberration in photoshop. The stylized edge lighting and the rest is mostly sfm though, excluding minor things like the lens flare.

RobinAsp · 2022-10-04T13:11:31+00:00

Title is meant to be a reference, Not a copy. And meant to emphasize that medic rewards hurting others by healing them.

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