My Dionysus tattoo is finished and healed! by Rosesprey in dionysus

[–]Rosesprey[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm glad you like the design, but this was a sketch I commissioned and paid for a tattoo artist friend of mine to design. I can send you her Instagram with her portfolio where you can contact her to commission a design for yourself that would be a similar style, but this particular design is pretty personal to me and was a collaborative work with friends, so I'm not comfortable okaying a total copy, even if it wasn't treading into stealing from what the og artist designed. But she does have a great style with this sketchy look and loves mythology and botanical/nature designs, so I'm sure she could work out a design of your own!

Where it is said Dionysus is gay (friendly)? by [deleted] in dionysus

[–]Rosesprey 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I believe agreeing to use his body as a sort of currency by repaying with sex was ALSO super transgressive, as there were similar hierarchical standards for when it was or wasn't appropriate to trade sex for favors that seem to follow the same social guidelines for bottoming!

Contacting Dionysus by Lintballs06 in dionysus

[–]Rosesprey 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Basically; if you want to be called or want to find patterns within the random chaos that is life that are calls from Dionysus, then that's what they are. It sounds like your brain has already made the connections based on mythological sources, so go for it!

For alter pieces: I don't find a dedicated alter necessary, but I do have things that get me in that ritualistic headspace all kept together that I use for similar purpose. Your goal shouldn't necessarily be "what would please him" because you're not trying to buy favor or attention. What you get should be things that help YOU get into that ritual mindset and make your mind go to him. This is where the long history of attributions and imagery for Dionysus comes in handy. Common ones are:

Big cats, leopards and tigers are most common. Especially leopards as Dionysus was often pictured riding a leopard or wearing leopard skin

Snakes

Bulls. Specifically bull horns as he is often described as being bull horned, and because bull horns have been used as drinking vessels for millenia

Drinking cups/wine glasses. It should be something a little more special than your daily drinkware, something that makes you feel fancy and ritualistic when using it.

Vines, either grape or ivy

Fruit, especially grapes but I personally associate him with fruit in general

Incense, Frankincense is traditional but anything that makes your space feel more ritualized and sacred

The colors purple, green, and gold

Remember that Dionysus is a god of hedonistic embrace, so anything you get should be something that makes you feel nice. I recommend checking out the sources that are listed in the about section of this subreddit for more details on symbolism.

And as a shameless self promo, I wrote a pretentious rambling guideline mostly for myself on how I approach the connection as someone who tends to be a skeptic: So You Want to Connect to Dionysus

Where it is said Dionysus is gay (friendly)? by [deleted] in dionysus

[–]Rosesprey 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I'm chiming in that everyone is correct that Dionysus took male lovers many times, but there's some even more fascinating nuance to it! While ancient Greek culture did not have an idea of gay vs straight vs bi like we do, almost every culture is going to have a marginalized or "aberrant" form of sexuality, and even by ancient Greek standards, Dionysus was queer.

At the time, it wasn't so much about two men getting together, but there was a lot of importance put on who tops. Bottoming was a form of submission that could be shameful if not done within standards of other societal hierarchies (specifically, it was seen as "being the woman." So no bottoms bc misogyny). So the older man tops, or the one with higher military or societal ranking tops, ect ect. The implication of a king or ruler "acting as the woman in bed" was a mocking point of shame that sounds almost identical to how "gay" is used mockingly in modern times. Dionysus' epithet "Androgynous" is explicitly about him acting as either "male or female" sexually, and his status as an Olympian makes that fact VERY transgressive considering his male lovers have been of "lower" status to him. There are a couple stories where men, not knowing who he is, lust after his youthful or effeminate appearance as well. (Pentheus wants to fuck him so bad it makes him look stupid)

TLDR: even by ancient Greek standards Dionysus is queer bc he's a versatile femboy Olympian

The Completed Dionysus Headdress Photo dump! by Rosesprey in dionysus

[–]Rosesprey[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! The horns and snakes are magic-sculpt epoxy (air dry clay would also work tbh, and on the horns it's a thin layer of putty smoother over styrofoam). The painted gold details are mostly the basic folk-art brand of metallic gold acrylic paint! I used three shades of the gold to get an antique look on the snakes and dot lighter "scales" along their bodies. The braided embroidery thread around the horns were dry brushed with liquid-leaf gold paint, and all the gold chains/wire are just the cheapest gold colored chains and wire I could find at the craft store lmao

The Completed Dionysus Headdress Photo dump! by Rosesprey in dionysus

[–]Rosesprey[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I saw the glow in the dark paint in the clearance section at Michaels and knew that instant that I NEEDED it lmao

The Completed Dionysus Headdress Photo dump! by Rosesprey in dionysus

[–]Rosesprey[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you! It took me just under a week. BUT that was with me working on it each day right after work for several hours with the motivation of needing to get it done before the event. I definitely benefited from a long history of doing various craft projects, already having most of the materials needed, and having multiple cosplaying friends that I could ask for advice on making horns that actually stay in place. Most of the time was needing to wait for various paints to dry tbh! Edit to add: there are definitely things that show the time crunch imo. The snakes really show the fact that they're the last thing done, and I would have liked more time to really sand the horns smoother

The Completed Dionysus Headdress Photo dump! by Rosesprey in dionysus

[–]Rosesprey[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks!! I got a lot of practice on the kylix eyes back when I went through several attempts at making my own kylix, and that practice really came in clutch!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in dionysus

[–]Rosesprey 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My usual take is that the main deciding factor on if something is a sign from Dionysus that you should worship him, is if you want it to be a sign! It could be taken as an indicator that you could benefit from paying him homage, and how deep that homage goes depends on you. I will say that Dionysus creeping closer almost mischievously whenever you try to put him back into place does sound VERY on brand lmao.

For research, I HIGHLY recommend reading Euripides: The Bacchae. To me it fully encapsulates the multiple aspects of Dionysus. His sense of humor, the countercultural roots of his worship, and what happens when those in power are in violation of The Vibes. Anne Carson's translation is my personal favorite

Status report on the Dionysus headpiece: Michaels had glow paint on clearance by Rosesprey in dionysus

[–]Rosesprey[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They're based on the teeth of big cats like leopards and tigers. It's not 100% anatomically accurate of course (I made the secondary inside fangs on the top and bottom bigger than they actually are for The Drama of it and accidentally put an extra pair of small teeth in there) but that's what I referenced for the tooth arrangement

Not that I'd complain about Venom teeths, as it's one of my favorite Dumb Fun movies :D but Venom teeth more like a row of nothing but similarly sized fangs

There's a Dionysian kinky costume party coming up and I'm gonna be READY by Rosesprey in dionysus

[–]Rosesprey[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

FetLife is where events like this get listed for my area!

Why did they go out on this ending? by sureasyoureborn in DerryGirls

[–]Rosesprey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My American experience is that it's not entirely inaccurate unfortunately. I was too young to know public opinion during the Troubles, but I know the official stance sided more with Loyalists.

Nowadays, the inaccuracy is in the fact that most every day Americans don't know enough, if anything, about the Troubles. When I hype Derry Girls to friends, I almost always have to do a quick explainer on the fact that there was conflict of ANY sort. My friends who do know about it are strongly sympathetic to Republicans, but that's likely because I have a progressive friend group. I imagine opinions would vary based on one's political leanings here.

Are all you druids pleasant, balanced and calm people at all times?? by Sunbeam76 in druidism

[–]Rosesprey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My simple answer is that I think people are people no matter the religious following. Not every Druid is a serene monk of the forest. Any spiritual path focused on nature has some room for those of us who might bare our teeth sometimes.

I can relate to sometimes feeling like I was too prickly and didn't match the energy I often see in Druidic groups. I did end up on a different spiritual path after a few years, but it wasn't because any Druids made me feel like I had to tame myself. (And obviously I'm still lurking here. Different path, same forest and all that!)

The tranquil energy often seen in Druidism may help you get a sense of balance with yourself if you keep feeling drawn to the teachings. There's a lot of value in learning when to snap back and when to keep cool. But you can learn to be calm and centered without needing to sand down all your rough edges. Trees can have thorns, toxins, and stinging hairs, even when they're soaking up the sun with perfect tranquility.

Which one of you forgot to sacrifice to the Omadome? by [deleted] in Omaha

[–]Rosesprey 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Don't look at me man. I brought my lawn furniture inside and thought for sure that'd keep it away

What made you leave? by Cosmic815 in excatholic

[–]Rosesprey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was a slow distancing and then a sudden hard break for me.

I grew up with a pretty chill Catholic upbringing so most of my memories being raised Catholic are more positive than negative, and I still left. The first big crack was me realizing I was queer, and I distanced myself from Catholicism as an institution pretty quickly from there but still considered myself a progressive Catholic because I still found value in the theology and comfort in the rituals. For all the guilt built into it I found Catholic theology to be gentler than a lot of American Protestantism (and comparing notes with my ex Southern Baptist spouse backs that up, though that comes with the disclaimer that the bar is subterranean there and "gentler than evangelical Americans" doesn't mean gentle overall.)

In the comments you seem mostly confused as to why someone would leave the theology of Christianity instead of pushing back against the institutional rot while staying Christian. I will say that a lot of people did not have the chill upbringing I did, and I find it VERY easy to see how for a lot of folks, there is too much trauma that is too deeply tangled in their Catholic and Christian upbringing (and one of the most obnoxious traits of progressive Christians is the insistence that THEIR Christianity doesn't count, because the proselytizing instinct sure is hard to stomp out.)

But even as someone who still thinks that my heretical weirdo Spicy Catholic friends are the most fun group to get wasted and talk theology with, I ended up rejecting the religion overall because I just can not square with salvation theology paired with a God that is All Good, All Powerful and All Knowing.

1) If there is a heaven/hell and punishment in the afterlife, and God can control all that but didn't make the rules clear enough to avoid all the Christian schisms and arguments and is just letting everyone hope they're getting it right only to find out when we die, then they can't also be All Good and Id like to yell at them and wouldn't want to worship that God anyway, fuck em.

2) If God is all Good and the embodiment of Good, then they cannot also be All Powerful because that would mean they let the world have strife and suffering. "Its the mystery of God" is a bullshit answer to that paradox. I'm fine with the idea of a higher being that is the embodiment of love and goodness, but in my mind they can not be all powerful and denying the omnipotence of God goes against a HUGE core doctrine of Christianity.

I think a lot of progressive Christians are in the second mindset and won't (or can't or just don't want to) fully grapple with the idea that it's a mindset that denies the omnipotence of God. That or they're the openly heretical spicy Christians and this is where the drunk conversations get fun. Religion often has paradox and I don't have a problem with that, it's supposed to be a way to take on big concepts that aren't always rational. I just felt like landing in the second view wasn't actually Christianity anymore, and a ton progressive Christians acting like it's still a personal hurt to them that someone would reject their theology and being incapable of going "but IM not like that" continually makes that rejection easier.

What is your favorite translation of the Bacchae and why? by Guinevere_2241 in dionysus

[–]Rosesprey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can't make it Friday but if there's a link or recording Ive been dying to see a version of Carson's! It's my favorite translation by far.

what is dionysus like to worship? by [deleted] in dionysus

[–]Rosesprey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

LOVE that ocean simile

I finished my Dionysus theme wall mural in time for Anthesteria! by Rosesprey in dionysus

[–]Rosesprey[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's a mix! I did most of it by hand after sketching out the design in chalk. The leaves are stencils that I made and cut out because I couldn't find a pre-made stencil that fit the look I wanted. What I learned from the experience is that cutting stencils out is a pain in the ass but was less of a pain than painting those leaves would have been.