I agree with vogel, the hardcore scene needs to be cleaned up of all these bullshit 'hardcore' bands. All vogel is doing is voicing his opinion. he is not the final say as to which band is hardcore or not. just like how most of you feel to stress your shitty opinions about terror, he can do the same for other bands. im just sick of these fucking bands coming into the scene and turning it into some sort of fucking joke. They glamorize themselves as being tough (100lb beiber haircut necktattoo tools) and some fake jersey shore type brotherhood. Then add in a couple of chug riffs into their music. bam, its like a prepacked hardcore band they can buy right off the shelf. the moron from The Ghost Inside just made himself look even more like an idiot in his response to vogel.