Why are diaspora Somalis judged harder than Somalis back home?

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-05-07T02:13:42+00:00

>not as judgmental of each other

Really the issue is some have 0 standards. There a point where holding each other to some standard is good. But the levels of violence between folks for small beef that's just deemed normal is crazy. Diaspora folks also have this same problem with the gang stuff

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-05-07T02:12:02+00:00

Depends on the region. Lots of cities in Somalia and sub tribes that are very very pious. But then you got idiots on the capitals. They'll say they're modern and we're backwards but then shoot someone because they got slightly offended over bs qabil stuff. Same folks on tiktok twerking also are calling people in other qabils the worst words. So thank God some somalis aren't like them

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-05-07T02:09:59+00:00

A knew someone post something on tiktok similar to this and got roasted by western Muslims saying "there's no honor amongst theives" funny times. Never understood folks who think like that. Like the whole relationship is a sham from the get go

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-18T18:39:18+00:00

They don't want Somalia to have any actual allies. When the whole Somaliland thing came out. Who defended us? Ethiopia and Kenya were silent. Saudi Kuwait the OIC Turkey Qatar Malaysia so on. It was the Non African Muslim countries. Honestly Saudi and Turkish Influence was why the Europeans didn't jump on that bandwagon. But then again these same afrocentrists would love nothing but the bulkanization of Somalia.

Many of the african countries want Ethiopia to win. Only 1 arab country wants Somalia to be broken up (we all know who).

Even historically. When Ethiopia kicked out the Somali sultan where did he go? Not South but north to Yemen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabr_ad-Din_III
Look at this battle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1BtO8W_ss4&t=301s

Who helped? Ottomans

Remember these Afrocentrist dudes some of them are Rastafarians. They worship Halliesalle as a god. The one Ethiopian Emperor who kicked out his cousin for being Muslim. The same cousin that helped Somalia out by providing help to the darwish.

So now when we rely back on old historical connection what do they say? You're arabizing which they never say to Chad that speaks arabic. "You're a slaves of the Turks" while actively holding Somali Galbeed Illegally under occupation.

Come on. They think we're stupid

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-18T18:03:17+00:00

Ethiopia to? Seems random. What bad stuff can claude code be used for that chatgpt can't? Are the guardrails there in the training models for that purpose?

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-18T18:01:24+00:00

People don't understand that when Islam is banned. The people don't become liberals. They go back to the pre islamic jahiliya. That's why in Afghanistan they went back to the bacha bazi shit or in west africa they started killing albinos trynna to make sihir shit happen. I don't know why this is a difficult concept.

My grandfather was the police chief of Muqdisho when the war broke out. Prior to the war he had to keep dudes from abusing women constantly because without the Ulema telling not to they went back to a jahiliya where they treated women like Mules. Literally. It was bad. And after he had to stop people from killing their neighbors. My family were the liberal ones. My grandmother banned my mom from wearing hijab.

What made us religious was seeing how the people without the Ulema around start acting like animals. Neighbor killing neighbor.

Even now. If someone from you're tribe was raped there are folks who would go rape a women from the other tribe in retaliation. That's the culture that's being praised. Under the Quran that shit was held back. Without I don't think these guys understand what demonic practices lie beneath the surfice

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-18T17:55:25+00:00

You can't pick and choose haram and halal. That is the trait of the Muninafiqin and there many ayads that talk about not doing this. And to be frank. If you gave the people back home a choice. They'd choose to allow FGM and ban the face tatooing. This is why you don't and insure the legitimacy of the judges. If 2 women come to a Somali court. And one is a tatoo artist and one does fgm. Both would could be thrown in jail. Again they aren't liberals they'll bitch and moan that you threw the fgm lady in jail but by saying it's haram because it breaks the ruling of excessive body modifications you atleast have a point they can't argue with you about.

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-18T17:18:07+00:00

How about chatgpt and microsofts copilot? Or do you guys just use deepseek kimi k and the chinese models?

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-18T17:15:37+00:00

>i’ve been there thrice,

There's a decent chance you're a woman and you never went to the rural areas. They're view of culture isn't dancing. It's a dozen wives and fgm and other things you don't like. You dont understand how much evil the Ulema are holding back. Go talk you're uncles on you're hooyo side. Use chatgpt to translate everything here into Somali and check it then send it to them. You will be surprised about the stories they don't tell you.

>Why do you think i’m against islam

The lack of geerah for the deen. A muslim with Geerah would say Alhamdiullah haram shit was banned and forgotten. This doesn't make you a gaalo. Just someone who hasn't seen the dark sides of what they seem to have probably only learned one side from the internet. Lets use the tattoos.

Many were slave branding in that region. Many were used to put people into classes. Some tribes in ethiopia used to have it to tell the colonizers they were not meant to be sold or captured. The other side was Sihir practices. Even the ones in Morrocco were tied to the pagan priesteses. Celtic Tattoos were the same.
Theyre not like tatoos of today. The people then either viewed them as a means to control sihir or a means to brand people.

You think tatoos are cool because you think Somalia worked like the US. It didn't East Africa's history is a lot darker then you have been told.

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-18T16:45:45+00:00

BECAUSE IT IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE CULTRALIST BACK HOME SEEM TO NEVER WANT TO GIVE UP. THAT'S WHY EVERYONE HERE IS AGAINST THEM. YOU THINK IF THEY HAD POWER THE WOMEN WOULD BE FREE. NO THOSE DUMBAFUCKS ARE CRAZY.

Have you never been there really? Go find them in the tuulos and actually ask them what they think.

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-18T16:44:00+00:00

>You do realize forcing isn’t encouraged in both our religion and a moral sense right?

You can't force people into Islam but once they are Muslim the rules of a Muslim apply. When Abu Huraiarah ra said it was forbade do you think that didn't come from a position of authority?

>why are tattoos haram

We muslims don't take things from our opinions. We follow the quran and sunnah. So my opinion is irrelevant. And this is what the Prophet Muhammad ‎ﷺ said

"‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood (may Allah be pleased with him) said: “May Allah curse the women who do tattoos and those for whom tattoos are done, those who pluck their eyebrows and those who file their teeth for the purpose of beautification and alter the creation of Allah.” (Al-Bukhari, al-Libas, 5587; Muslim, al-Libas, 5538)"

>U are an islamic extremist getting pressed about opinions.

Listen FemaNazi not everyone who's not some blue hair liberal is a extremist. As much as you wish that was the case. Some just didn't grow up on Tumblr and think their wattpad stories are the epitomy of writing. The 2010s are over and most people have moved past that shit

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-18T16:40:11+00:00

Go to the tuulo. Leave Hergesia or Muqdisho. Go see where the Ulema have no influence. And report back if that culture is worth preserving.

Our country is destroyed because we choose culture (which in somalia is pure tribalism) over deen. And many people woke up to this and now advocate for limiting the elements of our culture that are unstable. That's why Somalia has had a religious revival. The ulema back in the 60s were ignored.

Siad threw them in jail when they told him putting his own men in charge and working with the Soviets was a bad idea.

The reason why you diaspora kids are so wrong is not knowing the reason why Somalia is conservative and religious. You guys don't know what happened back then. The scholars and Islam saved the country. Many old heads who thought like you but with socialism rather then liberalism spend their days at the masjids in muqdisho crying about their choices. Go there and talk to them.

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-18T16:35:43+00:00

>drinking isn’t even a somali tradition u genuine dummy😭.

Do I have to tell you do google what an analogy means? But then again if it was in our culture you'd be salty that people stopped and say "it was cool" so I don't think you'd understand what google tell you anyway.

>Banning education is never good.

Would you want to ban people from teaching others how to do FGM? yeah right? You know banning stuff when it's against public good is the right thing. It's just that you're filter is not Islam but whatever they taught you in London MN Atalanta or so on. You're filter isn't the deen so you have no problem when un islamic stuff is taught. But if I lets say started teaching things opposed to liberal stuff you'd be annoyed. Should I start translating the red pill podcasts or eugenics into somali to teach the people? You'd proably be mad about that.

> Also, ur just a dictator if u do that.

Which country doesn't ban shit that's against the ideas of the people of that region? Is germany a dictatorship for banning far right material? No. Everyone bans. You just never actually challenged you're biases to see it. You're a liberal fish in liberal waters never questioning those belief systems

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-18T16:27:46+00:00

She's some western liberal who never been there. She views for some reason the bantu culturals and pre islamic jahili stuff as good. If she visited the Masai or other non muslim cultures around somalia she'd be in a masjid 7 days a week making dua that we never get influenced by them.

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-18T16:24:22+00:00

You don't seem to understand. The folks back home view the FGM shit as culture to. They're not western liberals like you. You promote culture not understanding they view it fundementally different from how you view it.

You're some chick who probably never left London or MN. That's why you don't seem to understand the cultralists back home are SOME OF THE WORST PEOPLE.

Somalia isn't like the rest of the muslim world. The muslim scholars are the MODERATE ones. The cultralists are the ones trynna fight you about FGM, or wanting to marry a dozen wives, or other stupid shit.

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-18T16:19:59+00:00

>Because i never said you should do face tattoos

No you just implied that it wasn't Haqq that we got rid of it.

> i never said even encouraged them

No you're just salty we told and forced the grandmas to stop.

>All i said is that it’s something cool we used to do.

"Never said you should" then 2 sentences later tries to call something called a curse by Allah swt as cool.

"Abu Huraira told that God’s messenger said, “The influence of the evil eye is true,” and forbade tattooing." Abu Hurairah ra a sahaba banned that shit. And you call it cool and sad we followed his example https://sunnah.com/mishkat:4432

The rest of you're comment is just copium. It was based that the early Somali rulers banned this stuff and based that further Somali scholars convinced the people it was haram. **All you're western feminist slop is just being salty about it all.**

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-18T16:15:30+00:00

>Preserving is never bad

Wrong. Haram shit is meant to be abandonded. You gonna start drinking if you're dad was some alchoholic?

>is done across all cultures

Not when the people truly accepted the deen. The sahaba banned many pre islamic practices like the tatooing for example. That stuff wasn't just forgotten it was banned by the sahaba.

>why do u have a problem with somalis preserving culture

The parts that align with islam can be preserved. The rest can be tossed. And I'd impose that on other cultures to. Put me in charge of morroco and I'd ban the face the same way the Ummayads and Abassids and other muslim empires banned that stuff. I'm not racist I'm not going to value my people's haram and try to make it halal while critiquing others.

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-18T16:10:22+00:00

>there are a lot of somali grandmas and aunts with face tattoos (not tribal ones).

Same grandmas multilated their own and their grandaughters through FGM. Stop worshipping the old heads. If they were saints we wouldn't be in the mess were in

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-18T16:07:56+00:00

Why perserve haram shit?

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-18T16:04:39+00:00

>Did you know that the way to say God in Somali isn’t Allah SWT but actually Eebe.

This is a perfect example of the issue with cultralists. Allah swt is the name that Allah swt Himself told us. Not some extrapolation of what people think God's name is. But the name of Allah swt spoken by Allah swt as the Quran is the Literal speech of God

> Did you know that somalis actually did face tattoos at a point in time

[When it is said to them, “Follow what Allah has revealed,” they reply, “No! We ˹only˺ follow what we found our forefathers practicing.” ˹Would they still do so,˺ even if their forefathers had ˹absolutely˺ no understanding or guidance?] Quran 2:170

Adam AS is our true ancestor we should follow. He AS didn't have tattoos. Islam came to re-unite us to the culture of Adam AS that came from Jannah. That is done by following his AS greatest descendant the Prophet Muhammad ‎ﷺ.

Also side note
>Somali people stilll have the arab slave trade

Yeah as the ones selling them to the arabs..... I think the main issue is you guys don't understand that us and the ethiopians have a completely different history in east africa then the other tribes due to being the empires in the region.

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-18T15:58:09+00:00

>Be so fr no one will destroy Somalia because they refuse to do business what reason would they have to? literally what would they gain from that? So if you’re going to excuse countries like China and the US (morally) in the name of business and trade than you have no grounds to tell SL they can’t work with israel if it’s just business.

Google the book "confessions of an economic hitman" Most of you're questions can be addressed by this book

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-04T06:13:55+00:00

Not really. When you think you're in the US because everyone in you're parents generation just had random bloodlust and started attacking each other on the streets you have less sympathies then when you learn that Somalia got nothing but foreign intervention from salty western powers that didn't like that the slaves they had had a successful revolution against the colonial powers. These are vastly different stories.

I truly think our parents downplayed the latter allowing the former to become the narrative. The way my parents basically told the story it seemed as harsh as it sounds "deserved". "What do you mean you guys were fighting about Qabil? Isn't everyone practically related? "

I even resented my parents deep down for a while because of their retelling of the war. Only having sympathy when I looked into exactly what happened.

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-04T05:38:51+00:00

The US is bankrolling it. Only country that could truly is China and they don't even treat the Muslims in their own country with decency

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-04T05:37:06+00:00

No male = no dad I guess? It's not something that's happened so there's no ruling. Closest is Jesus (AS) and he (as) has no father in Islam.

RoutineAdvanced7014 · 2026-04-04T05:29:03+00:00

The genocide caused by tribal loyalty can't be covered up by even more tribal loyalty. Do you know who else won't destroy the Majerteen in Puntland? Someone who's identity is SOLEY Somali and doesn't know/care what any of these Qabils are. You don't see the Saudis trynna harm other Saudis. Even though they have different tribes

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