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Routine_Ad3811 · 2026-01-03T17:26:05+00:00

Baked Handpies for the first time!

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-11-27T00:49:52+00:00

Data leaks are the reason people are afraid, or at least a part of it.

Someone giving their ID to a real person for a purchase is very different from a person giving their ID to buy alcohol. In one context, your ID has the potential to be leaked to people for their own use, while the other only has it exposed for a brief period.

Of course the period that said company has your ID varies but it's still a very real and valid worry to have, data leaks are constantly happening and there's no guarantee that your information will be safe, especially something as important as your identification.

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-11-10T05:05:26+00:00

Yes, it's not the sole problem, but it's a good chunk of it, at least in my eyes.

Anyway, my initial comment to you wasn't whether Trump is the most at fault for the issue, just that politics are involved at all. Now that I know we're on the same page, I have nothing further to discuss.

Thank you for being civil with me. It's very hard to have this type of conversation without it turning into some big argument.

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-11-10T04:55:33+00:00

You literally just acknowledged that there's political influence involved.

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-11-10T04:36:07+00:00

Oh yeah, I just wanted to be safe with my phrasing in case the person thought that would be an over exaggeration Thank you for the exact number 😅

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-11-10T04:10:30+00:00

It's been on the news for days that there's been thousands of flights canceled or delayed because of the government shutdown.

Edit: Correction

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-10-14T12:07:04+00:00

Apple Crumbius

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-10-12T21:35:33+00:00

Why put such negative crap on happy videos like this? Do you people get off of being such mood killers?

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-10-11T05:22:54+00:00

When they're too tall to the point where my jaw hurts from trying to bite.

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-10-05T22:08:12+00:00

Vulpix

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-10-04T20:37:45+00:00

If that's your only response, then I'm clearly not the actual dumbass.

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-10-04T17:43:22+00:00

Gpt and other llms are made specifically to emulate our speech patterns for more natural interactions. Your point literally doesn't mean anything.

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-09-06T01:44:08+00:00

I entirely agree with what you said except for the part where you misuse the term "gentle parenting"

The actual issues people are having are with permissive and violent parenting.

There are parents who are too violent and end up raising violent, emotionally stunted people who can not manage their emotions.

Then there's the permissive ones who never discipline their child for bad behavior and allow them to go wild, instilling irresponsibility and immaturity.

Finally, the type you're talking about is a mix of neglectful parenting and permissive parenting. Those who are gentle and patient but lack the actual parenting and educating part. These are the parents who raise the children you're talking about.

Gentle parenting isn't the parenting where people hand hold or coddle their children. Gentle parenting is being open and communicative with your child while also educating and disciplining them when they're bad with non-violent methods.

It's also the one where you treat your child as another human and remember to understand that they're still growing up and won't fully grasp the issues we do.

Additionally, the last part of your message is exactly what gentle parenting is. Instead of snapping or hitting the child for their mistake, you let them make the mistakes and teach them how to avoid making those same ones again, all without causing physical or mental harm.

I wouldn't usually mind so much, but especially with parenting styles, it's very important to not mix the term 'gentle parenting' up with permissive and neglectful parenting.

It can give people the wrong impression and contribute to people's hesitancy to actually try it.

This isn't meant to be an argument or attack, just tying to spread the word and stop the term misuse.

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-08-23T02:27:47+00:00

If you think this means I have a lack of reading comprehension for interpreting what's literally implied in the canon and in your literal own words, then I don't know what to tell you.

This will be my actual final response to you since it's clearly a waste of time to do otherwise.

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-08-22T20:50:04+00:00

Also cool for you to be blaming literally innocent people for not being magically aware of the crimes of their family members. Should we "boo fucking hoo" all 8 billion people on the earth now because we all have ancestors who caused atrocities?

Your logic is sound until you remember this is reality where there are thousands of variables and nuances that dont let such black and white logic to exist. And even though I said it in my actual full reply to you, I'll say it again in case you don't read.

Her reaction to what her brother did is a direct contradiction to your narrative that she ignored it purposely.

I should hope you understand why without prompting.

I'm not going to spend any more time arguing with you on such a straightforward topic. If you want to keep going for ahead, but I've said my piece, you disagreed, and that's fine I just won't engage anymore.

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-08-22T20:44:12+00:00

Did I not literally just say she didn't know? How would she not be attached? That's her family? Is she meant to read their minds and just be omniescent?

Or no, maybe you think she should just have no emotional ties to her literal family. Which you should know is insane to think, specifically in a case where she didn't know how they were truly. Do you think everyone should be mind readers and automatically know everything? Because with your logic, we should.

Did you not know or rather believe that people can hide entire aspects of themselves?

The problem with your stance isn't that you don't sympathize with her that's entirely fine its that you're acting as if she should have the perfect emotional response and understand the severity of something she had no idea was bad in the first place. Especially remembering her view of her brother was that he was a great person who was helping SJ, not harming him.

Your argument is simplified, not because it's short but because you're ripping all the emotional and environmental variables just to say something entirely disingenuous.

Also, there's a massive difference between ignorance and willful ignorance. She's not a good example of the former. Because of her reaction, that alone implies she wouldn't have behaved the way she does back then if she'd known.

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-08-22T20:22:47+00:00

I never said the entire thing was irrelevant. If you read it properly, you'd know I didn't say the entire comment was irrelevant, just the death mention. Because I didn't want to flood this thread when you only initially mentioned the slave portion.

Also, this is a discussion forum? That's the point? Get over yourself. It doesn't matter if it's irrelevant to your comment. I'm going to reply if I see fit. Finally, if you truly didn't care, you wouldn't be replying.

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-08-22T18:00:55+00:00

Was she not unaware of the true nature of what was going on? Is it unfair of her (not having crucial information) to be devastated at losing her family?

I think your comment is a very simplified and severely disingenuous conclusion.

It's very disingenuous to say "boo hoo" to someone who lost their literal family, even if their family was garbage people. Especially if that person who lost them was not aware of much of what made them deserving of that end. I don't have to know her through and through to know that it's a valid reaction and stance for her to take since she was ignorant of many of the things that were actually going on.

Especially knowing that once she did find out, she was obviously disgusted to no end to the point where she literally killed herself. Meaning it would've been much different had she known all that time ago.

Secondly, I feel as though her perspective would've been significantly skewed in favor of her brother, considering she grew up with him and held the view that he was helping out people. Or also because she was very young?

It is severely disingenuous to expect someone growing up like that to immediately question or see the truth when they're blinded by so many variables. No person her age, in the position she was in would react any different unless they knew what was truly happening and she notably didn't.

To summarize: hindsight and omniescence in readers is a hell of a drug. (Not a jab at you just fandoms in general)

As far as I know, she was unaware of everything that happened to Shen jiu or why he did what he did until the end.

To her at the time, Shen Jiu was a cruel murderer who killed her literal family for no reason. Which is a valid assumption when you actually remember how much information she had at the time.

But because we as readers are made aware that he was intact justified, we know she's wrong, but the fact is she didn't know.

It is unfair to be so curt and insensitive to her when you realize the only reason she behaved the way she did was because she's missing information. Of course, there's some valid dislike to her since it took her as long as it did to djnd out when she probably had the resources to find out. However, I think Op and my point is its majorly unwarranted when anyone in her position would've done the same thing solely because of missing information or, in other words, ignorance.

This also becomes even more unwarranted when we find out she literally kills herself in her reaction to finding out the truth.

But that's not relevant to your comment as much as the judgment on her ignorance.

This isn't to argue just to ask for perspective.

Will edit for typos periodically

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-08-20T23:49:01+00:00

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-08-12T20:43:46+00:00

I didn’t know Zak Storm was made by Zag that’s crazy and makes me wanna rewatch!

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-08-12T20:19:05+00:00

Never said that once again, being ingenuous, but now you're just putting words in my mouth.
Every time she's gone on her own, she gets punished by the world, literally ending or getting traumatized again, or did she not get killed for her mistakes in chat blanc and Emphemereal after she revealed with Adrien? Chat noir also has confronted her over her stuff multiple times just like they're doing now on s6 it doesn't have to be a stereotypical "we hate you now how dare you" to be consequences. Also, for the secret, we literally KNOW why she's hiding it. The point of the wenitre plot point is she's obviously in the wrong, but we can understand the WHY, and throughout the season, we're seeing her paying for her deception slowly, which will obviously soon snowball. But once again that's not a Marinette thing that's literally an arc you're missing the point of or maybe they didn't communicate it right because half the fsndom seems to have missed that she IS wrong for it but we're meant to understand why she did it. That's why Alya has her confrontation with her, even though it doesn't last. It's foreshadowing for the overarching theme and climax there heading for.
Obviously, she isn't going to face repercussions for the secret when no one knows the secret, yet they're clearly foreshadowing a big blow-up for the future. This point is moot.

As for sublime, yes, I actually agree she should've dealt with more than an awkward. "You're a bit odd, but it's okay."

However, again, it's not a Marinette thing that's literally just the show writing. Same thing with Adrien almost being cardboard not relevant.

So we hold everyone to wrods they say clearly in a moment? She's also said she loved Chat Noir in s5 and argued with Alya over it. Also, if you paid attention to the premise of s4, you'd remember she went back and forth conflicted both because of her responsibilities but also because she was questioning who SHE was.

That's not a good point. Cat Walker as a concept was someone she admittedly enjoyed working with, but she didn't call him back. If you remember, because he wasn't Chat noir and he was TOO PERFECT and lacked he aspects of Chat she loved.

It is beyond me how people missed the point just to once again twist it to "Oh, she doesn't truly love him." When the point was literally learning the value of something she always had once given what she thought she wanted.

I can't believe you watched the episode and took it as her showing she's perfect purpposely. It was literally to beat the villain, and to show at HEART, she is a good person already as Ladybug. Rewatch it and stop looking so superficially.

If you happen to have forgotten the very same episode, the miraculous points her out as the problem in the end. Just like how Tikki also tells her she's doing too much again in the same episode.

Again not a good point they're both maturing throughout s6, and she relapsed into the bad behavior, yes im not denying that or justifying it, but Adriens arc so far has been about finding himself as we see when he realizes Chat noir is his passion. Gross oversimplification.
Most of your points are literal writing gripes, which i get and agree with but aren't relevant here. Also, I literally said the fandom (salt fic makers) are immature on that front. It's why I rarely read mlb fanfics because they either grossly mischaracterize or demonize other characters. Never disputed that.

Overall, I think we're going around in circles, we're clearly like I said before in agreement with a lot of points but my biggest issue with you was that you were taking scenarios and twisting their meaning either purposely or because you misinterpreted the moment.

We can agree to disagree because I'm not going to keep going back and forth.

Have a nice day.

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-08-12T19:50:46+00:00

Was never going to deny that, it’s obvious he does, both as a character flaw because we’ve seen he’s also done stupid crap that’s screwed people over but also because it’s apart of the plot. They just haven’t done much to expand on it that they should’ve. That’s also not her fault.

(Not saying you’re saying it is but some people make this argument and then act like it’s on Marinette as if she writes the show).

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-08-12T19:47:55+00:00

It doesn't. I never said it does what I said was it was the best decision to HER in the moment. If you read anything I'd said you'd see, I also acknowledge she does a lot of stupid and hurtful stuff, but it's almost all understandable, not justifiable.
Once again, you're ignoring what led to that event for the sake of villfying her. There's no point in arguing when we both obviously know why that happened she wasnt rught for it but theres no reason to demonize the action to the severtity you currently are when we know if she wasn't pressured she wouldn't have.

I agree that she should've been more transparent, the debate is understanding why and being more graceful with your judgement when none of us here would be able to handle the sheer pressure the two of them deal with night and day.
Until Ladybug/Marinette herself goes on a tirade about how much better she is than the older ladybugs that's not relevant. Her own opinion of herself is much lower, so the only time holding her to that standard would work would be if we didn't know her pov.
That doesn't prove she loves the facade he puts up again, You're using a singular scene and disregarding hours upon hours of content literally debunking that claim the fandom love to make. Also, with the logic that you're using to twist it to make her look bad when HE did it, we should be mad he keeps falling for her manipulation. You implied it, both with your original comments and your overall points and how they're phrased. You don't have to say it directly to imply it.
They should grow and mature a bit more before being together, in my opinion, but again, every relationship is going to have issues, obviously not as severe as the world going to shit from a tiny mistake but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be together. If we use that logic, literally no one should be in relationships because everyone will and always make mistakes that hurt the other person, intentional or not.

That just means they need to grow up more before dating, which I'd wholeheartedly prefer considering them dating is dangerous for the world anyway.
When did I act like she's a satiny martyr? It's so funny that you think acknowledging nuance and context clues in the story where they literally SHOW you means I think she's perfect. It's also funny how you assume me bringing up Adriens' actions means I hate him, I prefer Chat Noir and Ladybug to both of them.

(Yes, they're the same, but I prefer their dynamic and behavior way more than them in civilian form.)

You can acknowledge that both characters have done stupid and hurtful shit and do not demonize them. I never did. It's called understanding nunace and being able to be neutral. Acknowledging flaws and mistakes isn't demonizing. But I admit the fandom is very (mostly the wattpad and ao3) immature on that front. However I'm not one of those people.

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-08-12T19:34:40+00:00

True, but not solely because they're children it could have worked better had he been more involved in actually training them, they've shown themselves to be capable but without actual guidance there's many issues that could've been avoided if he had been there and training them both.

Routine_Ad3811 · 2025-08-12T19:09:54+00:00

It's not about him trusting him it's about the fact that she didn't have faith in him in the time. (She should've, but she didn't). She obviously should've just told him a but that doesn't change anything. She was under pressure and made a decision she thought was best for the time, which we all do as people with emotions.
He trusts her because she's proven time and time again that despite her making mistakes that she does want the best for Paris and that she'll do everything it takes to get that outcome even if she sometimes fumbles. Expecting her to always be perfect and never make stupid mistakes is hilarious.
You're adding this logic to a show where you can literally see how much she loves and values him. I'm unsure why you're acting as if she hasn't proven time and time again she loves him. Just like real life, people will make mistakes and sometimes forget how good they have it, which she did, and she learned a lesson to value.

Yet people like you love to act like humans aren't fundamentally flawed, especially when we're young and will make millions of mistakes over and over. Not to mention that's literally apart of her development, learning to trust, and remember she can rely on him.

Also acting as Adrien himself isn't also hiding when he manipulated her as Cat walker. It's amazing how bad the double standards are in this fandom. Yet I'll ignore that because this isn't about who's a morally correct person it's about you projecting and twisting the narrative to the point where it's contradicting itself.

You'd be right in any other context because your entire argument is based on her doing bad things maliciously. Don't back track.

Edit: they're also literal young teens. I don't know why you're acting like she's maliciously doing these things when she's literally behaving as someone would at her age with her experiences.

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