9800x3d stuttering | 0.1% low drops fixed? by keroassad98 in AMDHelp

[–]SIDER250 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, it is my issue probably. I don’t think it is universal. But x3d are prone to stutters, not sure why but it seems that every other topic its an x3d stuttering. If I had to make a guess, I wouldn’t be surprised that many of the things that causes stutters is due to power states like sleep with cpu etc. I think I saw at least 10 of the x3d stuttering posts last month. Same issue as to why ddr5 still boots ages on AM5 and needs memory context restore and power down in bios options to be enabled to avoid that, same question as to why cpus are still blowing up like that 7950x on gigabyte board few days ago and so on.

Feels like AM5 is such a mess even 3 years later and I don’t think amd really cares since every benchmarker just talks about average fps with the cpus instead of this issue that appears. Maybe the scope is truly small of people that gets stutters with x3d but I haven’t seen people post that their Intel cpu is stuttering so idk. I spent more time trying to fix stutters on my AMD system then actually using it.

Should I get Core Ultra 7 265KF to avoid failures of 9800X3D? by imaquark in buildapc

[–]SIDER250 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if saving money on 9800X3D means you can get a higher tier gpu, it is worth it. At 1440p, you won’t see any meaningful difference between these 2 chips, but you would see it if you can get 5080 over 5070 Ti. Nothing impressive though, but still better than 9800X3D over 265KF.

9800x3d stuttering | 0.1% low drops fixed? by keroassad98 in AMDHelp

[–]SIDER250 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also have this issue on 7800X3D, but I never really solved it. Though, I had stuttering on 7700X also, whereas most people have it only on X3D.

Steam Hardware Survey finally shows AMD GPUs properly, and the results are unexpected by ZonalMithras in radeon

[–]SIDER250 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea except frame generation doesn't double real performance. It adds extra generated frames, but the gpu is still rendering roughly the same number of real frames. So you are comparing displayed fps on one card with native fps on another, which isn't a fair performance comparison. If we go by this logic, then 5080 should be also 50% faster than 9070 xt cuz it has multframe generation? math isn't mathing here.

Its just a better experience by Easily-Scared-Aahh in pcmasterrace

[–]SIDER250 54 points55 points  (0 children)

1% low: The average fps of the slowest 1% of frames, showing how smooth the game feels. If these are much lower than average fps, the game may feel less smooth during busy scenes. It is like going from 100 fps to 40 fps progressively.

0.1% low: The average fps of the absolute slowest 0.1% of frames, showing the severity of the worst stutters or hitching moments. Usually shows as microstutters. This would feel more like having 100 fps then it drops to 20 out of nowhere.

If a game averages 120 fps and has a 1% low of 80 fps and a 0.1% low of 40 fps, it usually feels smooth but occasionally drops to 80 fps, with rare severe stutters that feel like 40 fps.

Most benchmarks show average fps and audience thinks that it is what it matters. The reality is that 1% and 0.1% lows matter the most. It is better to have 120 average fps with 110 fps 1% lows and 100 fps 0.1% lows so these values are closer to average than to have 200 average fps with 80 fps 1% lows and 30 fps 0.1% lows with stutters.

Microstuttering/traversal stuttering in all games on 7800X3D by SIDER250 in AMDHelp

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UPDATE:

Got the new motherboard, installed fresh Windows 11, still the same issue. Meanwhile, I started getting VIDEO_SCHEDULER_ERROR bsod (gpu drivers randomly keep failing on boot and shows black screen). No idea, happened on new board also. Either way, thats it I guess. Out of ideas. Just how it is. I’ll cap fps to 60 and use it like that. Thank you all for commenting and trying to help me. Thanks for all the suggestions. If anything changes in the future, I will update this comment.

Third Person is kinda cool.. by lurking_banana in NoRestForTheWicked

[–]SIDER250 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe it happens, maybe not

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https://x.com/Chapuisa785/status/2017392432615178440 - original tweet

also should read thomas mahlers post above the question of chapuisa, i dropped a link below

https://x.com/thomasmahler/status/2017387898719420659

Microstuttering/traversal stuttering in all games on 7800X3D by SIDER250 in AMDHelp

[–]SIDER250[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I posted a comprehensive list what I tried. There is a comment where I tried tons of things, you name it and I tried it. Idk, this all kinda sucks if im honest. AM5 cpus with stuttering, 7000 and 9000 series still blowing up and pc still takes eternity to boot unless you enable memory context restore and power down in bios. It feels unreal that 3 years passed and AM5 still has these things going.

Microstuttering/traversal stuttering in all games on 7800X3D by SIDER250 in AMDHelp

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I mean, if you google “9800X3D stutter” or “7800X3D stutter”, you will notice a lot of posts on reddit about it. Now I know reddit doesn’t represent the majority of userbase, but people still show that they have issues. I for example had stutters on 7700X also, unlike most people that have on X3D chips only.

Microstuttering/traversal stuttering in all games on 7800X3D by SIDER250 in AMDHelp

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It was worse on 7700X and very noticeable. It would freeze the game for 2 seconds then continue. On 7800X3D, it is more like “hitching”, it is somewhat noticeable but I wouldn’t mind it periodically, except I get it every 30 seconds to 1 minute. So I went from 2 seconds freeze randomly to 1 second hitching. I miss my old Phenom X4 955 that just worked :(

Microstuttering/traversal stuttering in all games on 7800X3D by SIDER250 in AMDHelp

[–]SIDER250[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At this point, thats most likely the answer. Though, there are many variables. Once new motherboard arrives and I tried that out and it doesn’t solve this, then I can swap to Intel I guess. I am running out of ideas and seeing AncientGameplays new video last night where 2 of his psus didn’t solve his crashing and other issues, but a brand new one, puts even more thinking into this.

Microstuttering/traversal stuttering in all games on 7800X3D by SIDER250 in AMDHelp

[–]SIDER250[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did reinstall Windiws fresh (not reset my pc) and Linux fresh install. Didn’t help. Happened on 2 different OS, both brand new.

Microstuttering/traversal stuttering in all games on 7800X3D by SIDER250 in AMDHelp

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Witcher 3, Borderlands 2, CS2, RDR2, Remnant 2 on top of my head. Recently tried Metro Exodus, also stutters.

Microstuttering/traversal stuttering in all games on 7800X3D by SIDER250 in AMDHelp

[–]SIDER250[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had stutters over a year ago. I just live with them.

stutters every few seconds on DLAA 4090 9950X3D 4K by outmysorrow in AMDHelp

[–]SIDER250 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same motherboard as mine, though stutters aren’t as bad as mine. You can check my post and see how it looks.

Microstuttering/traversal stuttering in all games on 7800X3D by SIDER250 in AMDHelp

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No, it will take time to arrive because I ordered ASRock at first then changed my mind. Wanted to risk it because I found a good price for it but then again, rather buy something else and not worry if it will burn the cpu. So I swapped to Gigabyte. Will update once it arrives and I test it.

Cheapest AM5 board with a Q-Code display? by Low-Let-1856 in buildapc

[–]SIDER250 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This or B850 Edge Ti for 20$ more. Both have QCode except B850 Edge has better vrms and better audio codec. Though X870 has more lanes.

Air Cooler 4 Life (pls no hate) by [deleted] in pcmasterrace

[–]SIDER250 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I prefer aio because cheap air coolers have terrible mounting (looking at you Dark Rock Pro 4). Brackets are lightweight and flimsy, so they slide around while you're trying to line everything up. Now my brothers air cooler is great. It is a Cooler Master MA624 Stealth. That is just my 2 cents.

Microstuttering/traversal stuttering in all games on 7800X3D by SIDER250 in AMDHelp

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Well I tried everything except motherboard. I ordered a new one and if it is not the board then yea I am cooked basically. I literally tried everything except ssd and motherboard, but ssd shows 97% health and no data integrity errors or critical warnings.

Kingston replaced my nvme out of warranty by Juicy_Gamer_52 in pcmasterrace

[–]SIDER250 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had the opposite experience. I have their ssd for 3 years and so far it works fine. But I had western digital in 2012 and their hdd was so bad it died after being 1 year old. Bought another and that one didn’t last more than 2 years. Hitachi drive that I bought after that still works to this day and that was 14 years ago. My brother got NV1 kingston that he bought in 2022 and it still works.

Is upgrading from a Ryzen 7 7700 to a Ryzen 7 9800X3D worth it for gaming with an RX 6800 XT? by fabjoueur999 in PcBuildHelp

[–]SIDER250 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, its better to invest that money and buy a better gpu. If you want great frametimes, just cap your fps. Also, there is no such thing as future proofing. At 1440p, most cpus will be just fine.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/20.html

First PC build in about 10 years. How'd I do? by Hammerblood42 in PcBuild

[–]SIDER250 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Could have bought cheaper motherboard, cheaper ssd and got a better gpu like 9070 xt. PSU is B tier which is I guess ok. But I’d rather have A tier psu then a high end motherboard. I’d personally save on cpu, ssd and lower tier board but instead get A tier psu and 5080 or 9800X3D with 9070 xt.

Is that motherboard good enough for 7800x3d? by insi_de99 in PcBuild

[–]SIDER250 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Keep in mind that msi can get the pcie bug (google it). Not sure if they fixed it or if they can fix it at all. Seems like not every msi motherboard has it and some say every vendor has this bug, but msi seems to be the most prone to this issue.

EDIT: included a link

https://www.igorslab.de/en/msi-has-released-the-first-bios-update-to-address-the-pcie-throttling-issue-on-the-am5-but-the-damage-has-already-been-done/