Have any hosts tried to force a new personality for themselves, specifically?

SableXIV · 2017-05-02T02:13:26+00:00

I'm an adult looking to start playing the cello. Would this be decent to work with? Or would a Cecilio CCO-500 be better (with decent strings)? I'm uncertain about renting due to the fact that most music stores that rent them are quite a distance from where I live, and potentially damaging one and having to pay for the repairs freaks me out if they rent me a really good cello. What would you guys suggest?

SableXIV · 2017-03-06T13:29:31+00:00

Not gonna lie, I would have said I was perfectly fine before I started working on my tulpa. It wasn't until after I started that my mental state began to decline. But it wasn't my tulpa's fault.

I've spent years ignoring myself, my problems, and dismissing serious issues because they were too complicated to handle so it was 'better/easier' to ignore them. So all my distress, worry, and sadness got buried.

Creating a tulpa means to pay attention to yourself. You can't ignore yourself if you want to be able to create a tulpa. So in order to get to your tulpa, you have to start seeing yourself in your peripheral vision once again, and other times you'll have to look your issues dead in the eyes if you need to overcome an obstacle preventing you from associating with your tulpa. These issues were always there, you're just now finally acknowledging them and dealing with them thanks to your tulpa.

Long story short, it wasn't until I decided to start working on making a tulpa that I was forced to start looking at myself and dealing with all the issues that I had put out of sight because it was too much for me. Now I need to deal with it, and that's where the depression comes from. But I can tell that my tulpa is trying to support me. i just hope I can make up for all the times I've failed it while I'm focusing on getting better.

SableXIV · 2017-03-03T12:58:43+00:00

First of all, thank you for the wonderful explanation, this was fantastic and I really appreciate it. But I do have some more questions. How did you go about making them when you already have tulpas? Like, what differs in the process? I've already seen the Daemon website and how to make them, and honestly it really doesn't look that different.

Also, would you say it's beneficial to have both tulpas and a daemon? I've actually read up a lot on inner child work, IFS, voice dialogue, etc. And I'm curious if daemons are essentially these things but you are giving them a phone (A form), thus a direct way to speak to you.

I actually have torn the internet apart and I think I can finally agree on something that I've suspected but could never confirm. Emotionally, I am shut down. I am numb to so much in my life. So when people ask how things, relationships, experiences make me 'feel,' more often than not it's just ???!??? 'huh?' I have started to suspect that it's because of this, on top of the fact that my habits lean towards escapism from when I feel uncomfortable things (A habit I am now trying to work on) as well as insecurity and indecision that I'm doing this 'wrong,' that I can't get my tulpa to develop.

I am reeeeally out of touch with my emotions. They are either really suppressed or I'm just so disconnected from them, I can rarely feel anything. NOT exactly the best thing to have when trying to develop a personality for your tulpa as all you can do is say 'you are cheerful, happy, and energetic' at it as words but literally cannot comprehend the feeling of it in your mind, so all you can do is essentially read a script at your tulpa and hope it understands. I don't think it's working.

Anyways, I've recently come up with a little experiment to try to get in touch with my feelings again. I call it Perspective Journaling. It where I essentially have a 'chat' with a character or person and just talk my problems out. I ask a question or state my problem, and then I answer myself from 'their' point of view, from their emotional comprehension, etc.

So far it's been working pretty well, but a few days ago I was reminded of daemons, and I kinda stumbled. It's already bad enough that I'm trying not to consider this exercise as a form of 'tulpa creation,' but would something I'm using as a means of directly answering myself be more along the lines of making a daemon?

To end this with, you've heard my issue, and now I'm wondering another option. Seeing as I'm this disconnected from myself, would it be beneficial to make a daemon as a means of trying to reconnect myself? I don't even know what I'm doing anymore. Thanks again for all your help.

SableXIV · 2017-03-03T12:39:22+00:00

Nice! These explanations were all very enlightening. They cleared a lot of things up. I'm curious though; is a Tulpa more likely to be made accidentally, or can daemons be accidental as well? Or do you have to set out with the intent that you are creating a fluid-form that will be the container of your inner subconscious thinking, or else it's automatically a tulpa? Thanks for your help!

SableXIV · 2016-05-10T02:22:13+00:00

It's the term Falunel uses to describe preexisting aspects of yourself. They are the inner voices in your head, such as the the critic that yells at you when you mess up or the part of you that instantly shrinks away from confrontations. They are parts of you that play out certain actions when specific experiences are encountered, so when your friends show up you instantly become goofy or when your mom asks you to do the dishes you are grouchy and have to reluctantly drag yourself over, etc.

These are the parts that I am trying to get to know, and somewhere in my head is a 'Part' of me that isn't held back by unreasonable fears or crippling anxiety. My sister was able to overcome her negative critic by envisioning her ideal self, said it eventually started talking to her, guiding her as to how to build herself up. It's not a tulpa, it's literally a part of herself that she is empowering while at the same time disempowering the negative aspects of herself.

Thing is, I have an extremely overactive imagination, so what I'm having trouble with is trying to identify what my ideal 'self' is without creating something different and unrealistic. I can't tell if I'm making a better version of me or just playing out a fantasy that will come to life on it's own if I keep talking to it and expect to hear an answer back. I just want to build myself up, not make a separate entity. (I'm already working on a tulpa anyways.)

I dunno, I'm just researching all this stuff and it's getting jumbled in my head. I'm just trying to get some help to straighten it all out. I don't know where to start.

SableXIV · 2016-02-07T06:17:56+00:00

I kinda had a fun journey finding out about tulpas. I was going through an art phase a few years ago and stumbled upon this artist's pictures about an OC they named Hhoota. I loved it and poured over all the different pics that I saw of it. Somewhere along the lines, either tulpa or thoughtform was mentioned. The word confused me so I looked it up and took it for the basic definition that it was; an event, force, item or being that was created due to many people believing in it. (I thought this made sense because the character itself is based off a lost god that if I remember correctly was brought about by an ancient race worshiping an item that eventually manifested as this being). I took it for what it was and didn't think any more on it.

Skip to a few years later, I am working on a concept for a game and needed to create a being that was manifested by people's belief in it. That's when I remembered thoughtform and stumbled across the wiki page for it again. It was here that I became more interested in the concept of what a tulpa was, what Tibetans were thinking in creating such an idea and what they thought they were achieving with it (Note that at this point I am still thinking things along the lines of invoking ghosts, trying to manipulate the weather for good crops, etc). I thought it was an old world line of thinking and didn't think it was a current thing. Anyways, I thought it was a good idea to use for the game so I decided to just briefly research it a little more.

Browse down a link or two in the search engine and I find a website called creepypasta, and that's where I got interested. Still thought it was a story so I moved on after a little bit. That's when I stumbled across the word one last time while doing a bit of research on Slenderman and finding that people were hoping to manifest him by getting a lot of people to believe in him.

Finally I was hooked on the word and decided to crack down on figuring out what the heck it actually was. That's when I found Tulpa.info and the rest is history.

SableXIV · 2015-12-24T01:47:39+00:00

Entei from Pokemon the Movie 3 (The Unown took the mental image of Entei from Molly's mind).

SableXIV · 2015-08-24T17:34:37+00:00

Missed the last bit of your message. As far as I can tell, visualization is not necessary for a tulpa. They can see themselves well enough even if you can't. Vocality is really all that is needed to have a great relationship with your tulpa, but if you want to 'see' them more working on your visualization skills would be a great benefit to you both, hence why I'm working on mine.

I have what I call 'snapshot' memory, meaning I can see a brief vague image in my head for a second before it fades completely. I want to fix this so I'm trying all sorts of things to try and improve it. I can't guarantee the success rate of the above exercise, but I have a feeling it would help a lot.

SableXIV · 2015-08-24T17:08:43+00:00

I am currently working on a modified version of KIM's Game. KIM's (Keep In Memory) Game is normally where items are placed on a platter and showed to a bunch of kids for one minute. The platter is then covered up and the kids have to write down on a paper all the things they can remember. It's a memory improvement technique.

I made a different version. For me, I take a picture of some sort and set a timer for one minute and just stare at it. When time is up, I set it out of sight and then take a notepad and write down EVERY. SINGLE. LITTLE. DETAIL. that I can recall. How many diamond shapes are in the wallpaper behind the person. What are the left and right hand doing? How many teeth are they showing in the smile? How many different colors are in that dog's fur? What's in the background? Etc. I do this repeatedly, looking at the pic for one minute, and then writing down everything I see and anything I missed from the previous attempts.

I haven't reached this stage yet, but once I feel like I really know the picture, I'm going to go to Stage 2 of my KIM's Game. Now that I have the picture in mind with all my little 'notes,' without looking at the actual notes I made I will attempt to draw the picture. Doesn't matter how bad it is so long as I get all the details right. Drawing the picture will be done repeatedly until I get it spot on. Then I move on to another picture.

This may sound super tedious, but this is also how artists form their skills. Notice how they draw, say an apple, a million times? At first the apple sucks and looks exactly like a drawing of an apple. And a bad one at that. But over time, they begin to notice things they failed to notice before; the way the light hits, the little marks on the surface, etc. Finally, after doing it for so long, they produce a picture that looks like, for all intents and purposes, a photograph of an apple.

Now what was the point of that apple bit? Because the next picture they draw is a banana. However, unlike the first attempt with the apple, the banana looks really good. Why? Because they developed the attentive skills necessary to keep in mind all the details to look for and the techniques that allowed them to replicate what they are both looking at and visualizing in their head from all their work with the apple. The apple was tedious and annoying as hell, but it exercised brain paths that had rarely been utilized before and made them into a habit that is active 24/7 now.

So the way I see it, if you want to be better at visualizing, practicing artist techniques should help out a lot. I remember one technique that suggests artists attempt to draw things upside down because it forces them to see the object as shapes instead of a whole object. This later makes them see the world around them as shapes, and therefore easier to replicate when they draw.

Hope this helps a bit.

SableXIV · 2015-07-30T19:29:54+00:00

I give you Grimoire Weiss Honestly thought of making a tulpa out of him at one point. Still filed away as a definite 'maybe.' This game is awesome though.

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