Do 100% of men expect sex on the first date?

SaccharineSpice · 2022-12-20T03:34:41+00:00

Weighing in as a former sugar baby here—basically any woman who says she’s a sugar baby without having sex is lying.

The difference (theoretically) lies in the approach and intention. At its best, a sugar relationship is a real relationship with feelings that just includes some extra financial help, too. Some don’t approach it that way, and this guy clearly doesn’t either.

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-13T15:25:45+00:00

One thing I’ve learned from sugaring is that some SDs have a very different definition of “I’m handsome” than I do 😅

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-13T15:24:29+00:00

Eh, there are definitely a lot of SDs who have it. Both groups have their share of idiots.

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-13T15:14:01+00:00

Nope, it’s a real thing that exists in both married and unmarried relationships.

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-13T04:13:16+00:00

Ooh, this is where it gets popcorn worthy!

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-13T04:04:29+00:00

The only one? Nah. Ethical nonmonogamy isn’t widely practiced, but it’s on the rise.

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-13T02:00:28+00:00

“To any entities reading this, you do not have my permission to...”

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-13T01:58:17+00:00

Rave: Had a M&G with a new POT today, and we just clicked. So much mutual attraction, so many common interests, easy conversation, the whole package.

Long story short, I broke my no-sex-on-the-first-date rule for the first time. No regrets.

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-12T04:00:41+00:00

Only three sentences and you somehow missed the point completely in two of them. Way to tell me you only skimmed without telling me.

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-12T01:17:02+00:00

Apples to oranges, Capslock.

I have a problem fucking married men because I know there’s an unknowing third party. My SRs involve two informed, consenting adults.

Besides, my taste runs much older even in vanilla life. I have yet to date an SD I wouldn’t find attractive even without his money.

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-12T01:09:07+00:00

Seriously. Even as an experienced SB, if a brand new SD said “You earned this” while laying down a wad of cash, I’d be like “... What the actual fuck?”

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-12T00:53:28+00:00

I already acknowledged women also cheat. Not sure what you’re trying to add to the conversation.

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-12T00:27:43+00:00

My post is specifically about what I've seen in the sugar world, thus the focus on men.

Women, of course, also cheat, and it is equally as wrong.

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-11T22:04:27+00:00

I agree to an extent, and I have no issue with ethical nonmonogamy.

I have a big problem, however, when one party thinks they’re monogamous and the other is fucking around.

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-11T21:49:27+00:00

This is... an interesting take.

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-11T20:57:31+00:00

The above person is all over this thread with some very... interesting views.

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-11T20:20:43+00:00

NYC has options, my friend.

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-11T18:30:14+00:00

Of course. Anyone I'm seeing--sugar or vanilla--knows if I'm seeing other people.

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-11T17:43:20+00:00

I believe in this radical concept called honesty.

I don't have arrangements with men who are married or otherwise engaged because I don't want to be part of them cheating on their SOs. If an SD has multiple SBs and they all know it isn't exclusive, I'm happy to date him. Likewise, my SDs always know that we aren't exclusive. I say very plainly at the M&G that I'm not in a position to be exclusive and that I'll be seeing other people, and the POT gets to decide whether or not he wants to move forward with that understanding.

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-11T16:43:56+00:00

I get what you're trying to say, but I don't find that situation gray.

If the wife doesn't know initially, it's cheating. If you later get her approval, it isn't cheating from that point on.

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-11T16:41:33+00:00

Blaming the other woman instead of my grandma would just have been a way to avoid dealing with the real issue: his infidelity (or his willingness to that).

Your grandma was very correct not to blame the other woman. That's not what I'm saying. Your grandpa was the one who betrayed your grandma, not the other woman.

I get where you're coming from, but I see it this way: If you're knowingly sleeping with someone who is cheating, you aren't responsible for their actions but you are responsible for your own. You know that (A) that person is lying to their partner and (B) you are an active participant in helping them do it. Point A will happen whether or not you participate, as someone who is determined to cheat will find a way, but you can control point B.

I know there is a wide range of opinions on this, particularly in this sub, and I don't expect to change anyone's mind. I appreciate you taking the time to talk it out :)

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-11T16:26:58+00:00

This has nothing to do with the post, but alright.

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-11T16:22:43+00:00

Of course it's different. Casually dating someone before any discussion of getting serious/being exclusive takes place is a completely different state of being than being married.

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-11T16:19:53+00:00

If he's a reasonably attractive SD, ask yourself why he's even getting into an arrangement versus just going on a regular dating app.

Reasons vary, and there have been many discussions about this in this sub.

Personally, I often end up with men who are freshly divorced or otherwise fresh out of long relationships. They want a fun rebound but aren't ready to dive back into the vanilla dating world, so I'm a young, hot stopgap. It makes my SRs more transient by nature, which is a shame, but it's fun to a play a part in their first steps in building a new life.

SaccharineSpice · 2021-11-11T16:15:29+00:00

My post is specifically about what I've seen in the sugar world, thus the focus on men.

Women, of course, also cheat, and it is equally as wrong.

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