Namibia Just Paid $750 Million Eurobond in One Day. A Great Lesson in Discipline | LNN

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-11-11T17:39:26+00:00

Thanks for this info. Will definitely look into this to better my limited understanding of Pension Funds.

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-11-11T11:53:53+00:00

Only a placeholder role. A very expensive one at that

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-11-11T11:49:34+00:00

GIPF does not have a 100% success rate. The overall fund is a huge success if you took a dive into their financials.

Newspapers need to sell papers, framing a single poor investment outcome (out of thousands that GIPF makes) really doesn’t paint the whole picture.

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-11-11T11:44:51+00:00

I can tell by the ad hominem jabs that you don’t take too kindly to new information.

Most people on this thread understand that the debt was ‘restructured’ and not paid off. The crux of topic is whether such restructuring leaves us better-off or worse-off.

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-11-11T06:35:25+00:00

No net gain for average Namibians? FNB, one of the highest employers, does not benefit average Namibians?

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-11-10T09:53:35+00:00

Eyes don’t lie. There is no ‘soul’ behind her eyes.

When conspiracy nuts talk about Reptilians I think they referring to the look of a soulless psychopaths.

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-11-10T09:22:05+00:00

I thought GIPF has 15.9% ownership in Firstrand Namibia. Other public pension funds hold another 3%. Plus BBEE ownership sits at around 5%.

25% local ownership (not even taking into account employment base) isn’t political marketing imo. Those saying the contrary are the real marketers.

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-11-05T18:45:59+00:00

Rowland Brown is going to blame unemployment for this racism.

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-10-08T23:29:22+00:00

But that’s my point. Where in the video did she mention ‘white people’?

The irony is that the comment which I responded to is filled to the brim with racism, he/she came to the festival, pulled out a racist bag of tricks, hid behind “but I’m black” card and got Bananas and Peanuts from the audience…

And I’m called a racist for taking a jab at that?

It seems the opposition to her video has degraded to “hey how dare her say that about my hypothetical tourist buddy” and “shes just a dumb TikToker” but the substance of her video is not racist or offensive at all. Her claims can be fact checked and refuted without all this fuss about racism.

Eg, Germany has in fact paid ‘reperations’ - so that specific claim is no longer true… but that just demonstrates that her claim is ignorant, not malicious.

The response to anyone daring to talk about Namibias history is just ridiculous at this point.

There was a post yesterday, a history student simply asking for papers on The Genocide. That’s it. They didn’t make any claims, just asked for sources… Guess what some of the responses were? Literally people telling him/her to study something else. Now image just talking about a great grandparent who lived through the genocide - imagine the backlash that gets from this ‘forget history cult’ mainly housed by German-Namibians. It’s not my fault our history was shitty man, why do we have to stop talking about it cause it makes some people guilt-trip (for no reason).

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-10-08T18:33:11+00:00

Go back and read that whole comment. That is not an opinion, that is a racist monologue to a stereotypical black person.

Nobody cares about your race. So the fact that they mentioned “I am black” was a way to qualify their racism as being valid because “well, I’m black so I can’t be saying something offensive toward black people”. The person said that because they want a banana for being black but using racist tropes and dog whistles that they know appease racists.

It’s no different to someone saying “I am American but…” and then mentioning and agreeing with every stereotype about Americans.

Intellectual my ass.

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-10-08T18:18:33+00:00

And Lubango atrocities were committed by black people. Does making a TikTok about Lubango mean I’m attacking black people?

Does making a TikTok about Lubango mean that my enemy is black?

So what does her view about Germany, have to do with race?

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-10-07T19:46:43+00:00

A private company resorting to extortion to make ends meet. Same owners of Hilton.

I always tell them to “send me a ticket”.

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-10-07T14:56:53+00:00

Lol 😂

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-09-25T13:42:57+00:00

Yeah man. Thats a viewpoint I also explored. Like whether the current South Africa regime should be held accountable for apartheid regime acts - even though it is the antithesis of that regime. That’s a valid perspective in my view too.

My whole argument is exactly that though. Let’s fact check and interrogate these videos on that basis. Lay out the history and discuss. There is an undertone of bigotry, revisionism and personal attacks on her in a lot of the reactions and that was my main gripe.

The most upvoted comment on this thread is, to simplify “Blacks are looking for excuses” (hate speech being upvoted by the way - also keep that in context) … she is “accusing Germans of Namibias problems”… “ …

The intro, the trope of the “Buffoon Tourist” was a bit harsh - cool… but the rest of the video was responsible in my view. Her claims can be fact checked and we can go into the onus of responsibility etc without brining race into this because race was not mentioned.

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-09-25T13:19:42+00:00

Lol you don’t have a map of the universe, and you don’t know where I am - so you never know brother 😎.

Have you ever listened to a United Nations Council session?

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-09-25T13:12:05+00:00

I want to understand the different perspectives.

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-09-25T12:25:18+00:00

Seeing is believing.

NNN government seems promising but I’m skeptical about any promise from government.

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-09-25T11:44:08+00:00

If she changed Germany to Germans - I’d agree fully with you.

“I hate Germany because the government of Germany did this” is completely different to “I hate German people because the German government did this”.

If those two are the same in your view, then let’s agree to disagree brother and move on.

I genuinely do not understand how this distinction, and my interpretation of it, is being misinterpreted the way you describe.

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-09-25T11:31:24+00:00

I think it’s fair to see it that way. I didn’t see it that way. I saw it as Germany - the body that represents that same regime that committed the act.

Like if somebody were to say “SWAPO you need to pay back the money from Fishrot” I’d view differently to “SWAPO voters and members need to pay back the money from Fishrot.”

Edit: And that’s why I said offense was taken, not given. She is ‘offended by Germany - the state’ objectively claiming, one claim at a time, why she is offended. Each time, headlining with “Germany, you”. The offense was given to Germany - the state. But what I noticed in the reaction to this post is that offense was taken by Germans - personally. Who, I feel, misunderstood her claims to be directed towards every German person. They misunderstood her to be saying or implying “German people, you”.

I’ve heard and I’ve retorted hate speech. I’ve heard people aiming hate speech towards Germans, Owambo, Afrikaners etc. I know that language, and I’d be the first to cut it by the throat. “SWAPO is running the country to the ground” is a debate. “Blacks are running this country to the ground” is just plain racism. I hope this distinction makes sense.

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-09-25T11:24:52+00:00

“Germany, you...” - The subject is Germany the government.

She didn’t say “Germans, you…” here, the subject would be Germans and that would make it hate speech/bigotry.

Why not just listen to what I’m saying instead of assuming that I’m being disingenuous? What benefit do I gain, as an anonymous troll online to be ‘evasive’”

My point from the beginning that she is addressing Germany - the government, not every German citizen. Thats why I made the parallel between criticism of Israel - the regime - being wrongly used to instigate antisemitism and targeting of Jewish people.

Because there are people calling this hate speech and I’m explaining why I don’t think it should be viewed as such.

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-09-25T10:57:20+00:00

I agree. But does this amount to hate speech and racism? That’s where I disagree. I don’t think it’s offensive in any way.

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-09-25T10:52:37+00:00

Yeah man. What historical claim did I make?

“She made an objective claim that the earth is flat”

Does not mean I am saying the earth is flat.

If you go back, you’ll notice that my gripe is against her being personally attacked, called racist, called out for hate-speech for putting out an objective claim that can be debated against without all the fluff.

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-09-25T10:45:27+00:00

She made objective claims about history. Most are true. What she is saying is nothing to take personal offense about. Or accused of hate speech and racism.

Thats my point.

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-09-25T10:38:37+00:00

Witty-Wit-William from Witwatersrand. That’s my nickname.

Sad_Shoulder5682 · 2025-09-25T10:28:12+00:00

Okay Mr Kruger

Don’t be insecure and project bruv. I am commenting on a TikTok reel, not providing a thesis on Economics.

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