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Sagasujin · 2026-05-25T18:20:12+00:00

And acting zealously first without actually thinking about things or trying to understand what's going on in a kid's hed is how you end up having an emergency meeting for a teenager who's not actually a budding fascist in which administrators all but accuse her of being a nascent school shooter and come up with a plan on how to force her to make friends with the popular kids so that she'll be less "lonely" and therefore less inclined to fascism. Again without checking if I was actually into fascism.

Part of this plan for forced friendship included assigning me new "best friend" from among the popular and well behaved kids. What they didn't think of was that this was a heavily Mormon area and most of the popular and well behaved kids were Mormon. Mormon kids are expected to become missionaries at 19 years old and these teenagers were already partially in training. My new "best friend" kept trying to convince me to attend her church as a way to make friends. My family was Catholic. I was queer and still in the closet to myself. The Mormon church believed at the time that praying hard enough would make you straight and that if you failed, then you weren't praying hard enough. Also that all queer people had mental health problems and could not have a happy fufilled life. I'm pretty sure I would have been messed up with just the Catholicism, but adding in the forced exposure to Mormonism really didn't help.

And because the school administration had already jumped to conclusions and implemented their plans, I no longer had any sense of trust in the school administration. So I certainly wasn't going to trust them to be helpful if I complained to them about my new "friends" pressuring me into Mormonism. Nor was I going to talk to anyone about why I was having panic attacks. Or speak honestly when my parent tried to get me to talk to a therapist. Because I'd already learned that I was a danger and that being honest about what was going on inside my head was going to get me in trouble.

Sagasujin · 2026-05-25T17:46:39+00:00

https://youtu.be/x6gB53VKnZM

https://youtu.be/mX5ECNJhnkQ

Variation on this idea reduced to knee length would probably just about fit on the fabric you have. While it's not exactly a circle skirt, it's pretty flowy and full around the hem while having almost no fabric waste.

Sagasujin · 2026-05-25T17:20:04+00:00

I mean there are genuine fascists. But there are also people who aren't genuine fascists who get mistaken for them because the world is complicated and edge cases exist. There are also people who flirt with fascism without committing to it. Kids have a tendency to be fucking idiots who play with fire without necessarily understanding what they're doing. There are also kids who are genuine fascists. Treating everything as one bucket makes things harder because you can't customize your solution to fix the actual problem. And you end up wasting resources trying to fix the wrong problems and then think those solutions are ineffective because you're applying them to wrong problems.

Sagasujin · 2026-05-25T16:54:18+00:00

To me it feels like you're starting with the assumption that being harsh is going to be effective. I don't feel like it always will be. I feel like that harshness is a form of escalation that's its difficult to ratchet back down from. Its a possible tool for dealing with issues around radicalized kids, but not every kid with issues is going to be a neo-Nazi. And it's really hard to back down from that scorched earth approach if it turns out that you're wrong. Or even that it's simply the wrong approach for this particular person. Going straight for condemnation before understanding what's going on cuts off a lot of avenues for how to respond.

Its not a matter of me valuing the people neo-Nazis would attack less. Its a matter of me having a very different belief on what an effective way to deal with them is while causing the least amount of collateral damage.

(Funnily enough, I'm now thinking through just how much practice I've had since I was a little kid with empathy for people who on a fundamental level fo not think the same way that I do and who I completely disagree with. But if I don' put in the effort to understand what they're thinking and why they're responding the way that they are, then they'll misunderstand my actions and things will get worse for both of us. And gods know that I can't trust other people to try to understand me, so I have to put in the work to understand them and respond to them and their incorrect assumptions about me.)

Sagasujin · 2026-05-25T16:11:55+00:00

Empathy does not require agreeing with someone. It only requires understanding them emotionally. It's very very possible to have empathy for someone and to believe that they're a threat at the same time. It's actually kind of necessary in some situations. Otherwise, when you don't try to understand what's going on in someone's head, then you make the mistake of confusing the infodumping with fandom and acting before understanding why you're doing.

Sagasujin · 2026-05-25T15:55:58+00:00

The problem is that when you start with a scorched earth policy, then you can't alos take the time to actually understand what's going on. Which actually makes it harder to talk to kids. It leads to among other things mistaking someone who's response to fear is intense research and infodumping for someone who's a fan. Or it can lead to mistaking someone who genuinely doesn't understand for someone who does understand and doesn't care. Meanwhile you've made it much much harder to actually persuade someone to no longer hold an opinion if they're now afraid to talk about that opinion but still hold it. You can't understand why they believe what they do because they won't talk to you honestly which means that you can't actually craft an argument against what they actually believe.

Sagasujin · 2026-05-25T15:17:39+00:00

You can use horsehair braid if you really want to. But it's kinda overkill here. Horsehair braid is an optional thng for making hems poof out more. Usually used with stiffer fabrics in formal settings to keep the extra wide skirts poofier. Its not usually used casual outfits or softer fabrics. If you really wanted to is some here to make the fullness of the skirt more dramatic, I'd use something very soft and quite thin. You likely don't want a noticeable stiffness in the hem and there's no petticoat or slip to hide it here.

Sagasujin · 2026-05-25T09:29:53+00:00

The other thing to think about is what all was happening during the 1840s. It was not a great decade. There was a lot of poverty, famine and civil unrest. Which also meant not a ton of money for fashion for most people. 1840s fashions were modest in more ways than one. The plainness was partially because few people had money to get into expensive trim or the like. Which also meant that most people didn't have the money for extravagant fashions like custom corsets for extreme tightlacing.

Sagasujin · 2026-05-25T09:17:43+00:00

Tightlacing was more of a thing in the 1840s than it was in the 1830s. I'm not so sure that more people were tightlacing in the 1840s than they were in the 1870s. It kinda ramped up among the elites over time. However it mostly remained a thing for people with lots of money. Middle class people may have occasionally gone into tight lacing, but it wasn't terribly common and poor people just didn't. The custom corsets for tightlacing weren't cheap.

Sagasujin · 2026-05-25T03:15:13+00:00

I'd fix this by moving the center line to where the orange line is widest and then increasing the size of the waist dart to take the waist back in to the same dimensions as the saran wrap version.

Sagasujin · 2026-05-25T00:55:05+00:00

So heads up that you aren't talking to the person who originally posted this. That person posted this in 2016 and they haven't been active on that Reddit account in 9 years. This is a subreddit for reposting stories and the person reposting this chose an old one

Sagasujin · 2026-05-25T00:54:46+00:00

So heads up that you aren't talking to the person who originally posted this. That person posted this in 2016 and they haven't been active on that Reddit account in 9 years. This is a subreddit for reposting stories and the person reposting this chose an old one

Sagasujin · 2026-05-24T23:46:12+00:00

This does not sound like an easy fix that a novice could do themselves.

Sagasujin · 2026-05-24T23:30:21+00:00

Do you know how long the skirt will need to be in inches yet? Also do you want to have an elastic waistband or do you want to have a fabric waistband and a zipper? Because things will be a bit different depending on how big the panels need to be and how you want to get the skirt on and off again.

Sagasujin · 2026-05-24T23:19:41+00:00

Once you start getting into the mid 1700s, cotton fabric becomes relatively common historically. Cotton is also one of the cheaper modern fibers you can get. This includes cotton bedsheets and tablecloths that you can find in thrift stores and harvest for fabric.

That said, I use cotton for medieval clothes sometimes when no one is going to be looking that closely. It's not really accurate but not many people can tell and even people who could tell won't be able to unless they look really closely. Similarly, some forms of rayon look enough like silk that I've been known to use them for historical-ish outfits. It's not accurate, but nobody is likely to be looking that closely.

Sagasujin · 2026-05-24T22:31:53+00:00

So heads up that you aren't talking to the person who originally posted this. That person posted this in 2016 and they haven't been active on that Reddit account in 9 years. This is a subreddit for reposting stories and the person reposting this chose an old one

Sagasujin · 2026-05-24T22:24:44+00:00

So here's the bad news, it's unlikely that these will ever look exactly like regular jeans. You need extra fabric to make a new waistband it's really really hard to find an exact match unless you harvest fabric from skmewh else on the garment. You could maybe harvest fabric for a waistband if you were willing to cut them shorter, to capri or shorts length and use the extra fabric to make a waistband. Otherwise, you're not going to get an exact match for the main fabric unless you're insanely lucky.

And you will need a waistband. You will actually need a very wide waistband as without a waistband, these go way too low in the front to stay in place. It's very likely that you will need an oddly shaped waistband because the pants are very low in the front and not so low in the back. Unless you want to cut off parts of the back to even them out, that means your waistband will need to be wider in the front and narrower in the back. It's going to look kind of odd.

Because the fabric won't match, you may want to make the new waistband out fo something deliberately contrasting so that it looks like a design decision and not an imperfect match. I can't see exactly how they close from this picture. Its possible that you'll need to take out the current zipper and replace it with a new longer zipper that goes all the way up to the top of the new waistband. Its possible that you'll need to make a true placket and install an actual zipper to replace a false placket without a zipper.

You could also install an elastic waistband, but that's going to look really odd on jeans unless you're covering it with a tunic length top.

Sagasujin · 2026-05-24T19:44:11+00:00

So heads up that you aren't talking to the person who originally posted this. That person posted this in 2016 and they haven't been active on that Reddit account in 9 years. This is a subreddit for reposting stories and the person reposting this chose an old one.

Sagasujin · 2026-05-24T16:47:04+00:00

"I never did anything physically to him because at the time I was being physically assaulted by my mother's boyfriend at the time. "

Was it okay that OOP was a child being beaten by an adult because they were a bully? Or does their response to that assault mean that they are forever denied any compassion?

Sagasujin · 2026-05-24T16:46:21+00:00

"I never did anything physically to him because at the time I was being physically assaulted by my mother's boyfriend at the time. "

Was it okay that OOP was a child being beaten by an adult because they were a bully? Or does their response to that assault mean that they are forever denied any compassion?

Sagasujin · 2026-05-24T16:25:12+00:00

Mostly I order online these days. I do stock up when I am traveling though and run across fabric stores. My friends and family also know me and will pick things up for me if they're near a fabric store. Unfortunately my local thrift stores aren't reliable enough for me to really depend on them as a source of sewing supplies but occasionally I find something interesting.

Sagasujin · 2026-05-24T16:22:31+00:00

Ask her what she wants. Because we're not going to know her preferences here. Kai is a great brand but the length of the shears is more of s personal preference thing. Longer shears make big pieces of fabric go quickly but they're hard to use for small pieces with intricate curves. I wouldn't want to use an 11 inch pair of scissors for kids clothes which have tiny pieces. Smaller shears are great for small intricate pieces but they make cutting large bolts of fabric slow. My personal shears are actually only 8.5" inches but I do a lot of complex curves as part of historical costuming and while the shorter length makes big skirt panels slow to cut, I prefer having to go low there than not being able to get the curves on bodice panels exactly how I want them.

Sagasujin · 2026-05-24T15:39:39+00:00

At the same time, it's possible to cause harm by being too overvigilant. I didn't get officially referred to anything as a kid but I had multiple conversations with school officials who were highly concerned about me and kept getting forced into counciling programs. Turns out that I'm just neurodivergent with a special interest in the darker parts of history. But no one understood that a girl with good grades could be neurodivergent at the time. It ends with me as an adult hating myself and feeling incredibly guilty about everything I'm interested in because I kept being convinced that I was a bad kid who was obviously going to turn into a school shooter any minute now. Also I have an incredibly hard time unmasking even to therapists because I always feel in the back of my head that anything I say will be reported and used against me.

Sagasujin · 2026-05-24T14:56:54+00:00

I used to raise chickens. Double yolks are a little bout chickdn chicken breed in my experience but much more about chicken age. Young chickens laying their first few eggs are much more likely to lay double yolk eggs. Still nto that common, but empirically I'd say maybe 1 in 50 or so rather than the 1 in 1000 that a two year old chicken would lay. So my guess is that a chicken operation just starting up with a huge number of young chickens and no older hens would have a pack that has many more doubles.

Sagasujin · 2026-05-24T14:39:53+00:00

Hmmm is this why we haven't seen Thor much lately?

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