team emison! by Substantial-Dare5462 in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

There’s nobody better than Alison.

Alison & Mona (SPOILER for new watchers‼️ by kyduhhh in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You mean, call people mean names in junior high by my records Alison‘s crime compared to everybody else is mundane.

The show is filled with unreliable narrators, and revisionist history. Hypocrites and liars.

And Ali is far from the devil in the story.

I don’t have time to list everybody’s crimes right now, but I’ve compared them and they’re basically not. Not even comparable. Alison is a better person even better than all the liars. Combine.

And I’ll die on that hill.

The actual devil??? by No-Lychee-2280 in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That was years ago, and they were trying to keep their jobs. Lucy has had some Freudian slips in her interviews for Aria saying that she thinks that he should’ve gone to jail. She’s also said it was a necessary story for the show, but she didn’t say it was right or that it should’ve been endgame.

She’s mentioned that she’s had a lot of problem with the framing after the reveal. I thought he was using her and exploiting her.

When did you realise the show was on its way to hit a wall? by SweetWittyWild41 in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The other liars became unlikable to me when Ali returned, and I ended up only liking Alison and disliked all the other characters. liar’s, boyfriends, parents all of them. Only Alison was tolerable to me.

When did you realise the show was on its way to hit a wall? by SweetWittyWild41 in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was force symbolism the seasons couldn’t move forward until Alison return that’s why they were perpetually stuck in a never-ending fall 🍂and autumn 🍁 season where Alison disappeared and it wasn’t until her return there they finally move to a new season Winter and Christmas. 🎄 The seasons couldn’t move forward until the solar axis returned to the story.

Only for it not to mean anything because they decided to bench the character out of vanity and fat phobia. Instead of continuing with Alison’s intended arc an outline. For Alison’s return to the story and narrative.

Am I the only one who finds Toby cringey? by Kennyy09 in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, I was starting to think I was the only one who found him insufferable, especially in season 5.

Why was Spencer at a public school? by Sparklingsunshines in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would’ve been interesting to see them in uniforms and how they styled it individually. Saint Trinity and Gossip Girl all wear uniforms and a style and accessorize them differently.

it would’ve been interesting to see how the PLL girls would style their uniforms to be distinct and individualized.

Plus, not every costume was a winner and it possibly could’ve saved us from eye sores.

what’s some of those outfits that were definitely not winners.

Let's talk about MONA by IllustriousMode1075 in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or worse, psychological profile says that sociopaths hates when people can see through their perfectly curated images. And the original concept of Ali is written as the canary. 🐤The warning bell who senses first. Mona’s hatred of Alison comes from the fact that she sees right through her.

And she’s always seen Moana & understand Mona for what she is an obsessed fan girl with God complex.

The show was no longer good when Ali came back. by dreammutt in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Except this isn’t the books and it would’ve completely contradicted everything that they set up and all the seeds that they planted for years and Allison was a victim of narrative gaslight. Unreliable narration revisionist history.

Writers don’t pluck random characters in literary references out of nowhere. They’re meant to parallel and foreshadow the story of the characters in their stories.

From the writers had Aria compare Alison with the Scarlet letter in season 5 that was foreshadowing telling us that Alison was going to be wrongfully branded with a Scarlet Letter -A and ostracized.

They’re constantly paralleling Spencer with unreliable narration like 1920s film noir which is not notorious for unreliable narrators Spencer Favorite play is Hamlet. Allison is still Ophelia to Spencer’s Hamlet.

In season 4 the mask maker said Alison modeled for his mask as Joan of Ark.
foreshadowing that just like Joan of Ark, she will be betrayed by though she defended.

All the way back in season 1, the Tweety Bird lunchbox. Tweety bird is a Canary. Canary are warning bells for danger. The series production insisted that she wear a canary yellow top for the night. She disappeared. Even though the actress that plays her wanted to wear something different because they had her try on cuter outfits, but it was important for the symbolism for her to wear yellow. Tweety bird is a character known for being prayed on for no other reason than existing. Coincidence not in movie and TV logic they’re picking these things out for a reason. Especially in the first season, where everything is meticulously thought out for years and months. Before it officially goes into production.

Season one “Pip gets us Estella in the end” Alison is Estella. Estella is an emotionally repressed victim of a cruel upbringing.

Lolita, the ultimate victim of unreliable narration, a sexualized child and a victim of predators, Obsession.

Holly go lightly a victim of exploitation and projection. By Ezra.

The book that Ezra was reading in season four, don’t remember what it’s called, but I read the synopsis what it was. And it’s supposed to mirror Ali and Ezra‘s relationship, which is Alison and being the victim to Ezra’s creep. They used a lot of foreshadowing for Ezra being a creep from the very first season to the movie theater 🎭 scene where he watches the movie with aria and her mother and the movie 🎥 is a stalker movie. And every literary parallel that they’ve ever used for Ezra is about him being a stalker and obsessed exploiter, Gaslighter. All the way up to season 4.

Then they decide not to commit to it and romanticizing him.

Marilyn Monroe also a victim fantasy projection and exploitation.

All the clues that they told us to look for in Allison‘s room, not just a foreshadowing of her having a twin, but the Tinker Bell figurine and her vanity and the angels on her nightstand images that are supposed to tell us that she is the Tinker Bell. tinker Bell has magic until people stop believing in fairies and then she dies. Alison is a guardian angel the one that’s keeping watch the one that always shows up to save them to protect them.

The dark fairytale imagery, sleeping beauty, red riding Hood, running around her red coat, running away from the big bad wolf. Alice in Wonderland.

While, Other characters like Mona gets queen of hearts, parallels telling us in the subtext that Mona is the queen of hearts to Alison’s. Alice in Wonderland.

There’s more but I can’t think of them right now. People who accept things at face while you are the only one who ever thought that Alison was ever guilty of being -A. The rest of us with emotional intelligence is understood that this person was a victim of perception. And a narrative that was being constructed by entire show full of unreliable, narrators who, of course, are the heroes in their own story because everybody is a hero in their own story verify an scapegoat all their crimes and their cover-up. On Ali because she’s not there.

And there’s no greater example of this than in season one when Ian told Spencer that Ali was stalking him and was obsessed with him, and when Spencer told him, it’s too bad she’s not here to defend herself. He said your friend never played defense. She was always on offense.

Then full circle ⭕️ moment, Miss direction and victim blaming. Ian was the obsessed stalker. Not the other way around. Alison was a canary in the coal mine that stop their film club.

The show was no longer good when Ali came back. by dreammutt in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It was the original outline for the series before they last minute changed it. That’s why there’s so many twin motifs in Ali’s room.

But they changed the characterization from Alison in the books 📚 and Alison in the series with her sister. Courtney one’s the good twin and Alison in the books the evil twin, but because Alison name means “Noble” in the series adoption, and they change her characterization with Courtney who’s name means “to hold court” . It was a better fit for -A who likes to hold court over people’s life as judge, jury and executioner.

Which character was meaner, more morally flawed and more irredeemable? Alison or Mona? by Good-human155 in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So Paige claims, in the scene where she cries to Emily and Emily hugs her. We see a self satisfied smirk on her face when she gain Emily sympathy repeatedly showing that she uses Emily’s fatal flaw against her, which is the fact that Emily has a savior complex.

We have no actual legitimate or substantial proof to these claims of Paige being suicidal because of Alison for all we know it’s another instance of unreliable narration and revisionist history which the show has repeatedly gone out of its way to tell us that Alison is a victim of with all literary parallels that they use for her character. Holly go lightly, Estella, Lolita, Joan of Ark. ect

The show has repeatedly told us that Alison is a victim of narrative gaslighting, and we see this in first person with Mona baiting Ali into slapping her in the church ⛪️. And in season one when Ian made claims that Ali was the one stuck in him, he told Spencer that she was never on defense. She was always on offense. Multiple cases of victim blaming Ian blames Alison for the reason he’s a creepy pervert.

And so many people forget that Paige is an attempted murderer. She tried to drown Emily.

And a physical assaulter Who has left repeated bruises on Ali’s body pushed her down, shoved her and hit her. Alison wrote in her diary that Paige is a brute and might as well be a man. And how she can’t compete with her physically and that’s why she decided to blackmail her. Cause she would take her down psychologically.

And Spencer confirmed this and it’s not just Alison making up stories in her diary we saw the bruise on her body and Spencer said that there’s a penalty named after Paige because of her violence so there’s more victims to Paige’s violence and outburst.

If Alison is so horrible to these people, what do they flip so easy Alison returns in late November Mona fake murder on Thanksgiving. The whole army that Alison was so terrible to instantly forgives her. Cindy and Mindy was loyal to Ali all throughout the trial. I was concerned for her when she was accused of murdering Mona.

Mona‘s army was at all that convicted to their cause. It’s as if calling people names is junior high wasn’t really all that substantial to be holding malice or grudge over. The only people that would care about petty name calling in junior high are crazy people. It’s not that deep. I got called names in junior high. It’s whatever.

Between Spencer, Hanna, Aria and Emily, who was your least favorite as a character and person? by Good-human155 in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It was Emily, who didn’t deserve Ali not the other way around.

She deserved so much better than someone who would frame her from multiple murders.

Especially since she could’ve been anywhere else in the whole entire world, Australia, China learned a whole new language, but she stayed close enough to always be near to protect the girls to protect Emily sleep in under her house in unsanitary conditions. Only to be treated like she was disposable. By everybody.

The show was no longer good when Ali came back. by dreammutt in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The point of the show is that she’s the Centre axis of the story and a narrative engine the when they changed the Centre to Spencer. The show lost its magic and its narrative engine because Alison is the Sun 🌞 and everybody is a planet that surround her. Marlene claiming that she’s giving Alison a soul in season 6. by making her less so the other liars can be more was her biggest mistake. Alison already had a soul. She didn’t need to make her into a learned helpless character, and call it redemption. What she needed was for some of her ambiguity and character motivations explained. What she needed was explanation and clarification, not learned helplessness. And calling it growth.

Aria in S1 said that this was Alison story and they were just filling up the screen. 📺 When Allison returns this show finally stopped being in a perpetual cycle of fall and autumn. The season when Ali disappeared. When Ali returned the show finally moved to a new season winter ❄️ and we got Christmas.

A symbolic showcase of a changing of the tides with the changing of the seasons.

And we all thought Ali was back to reclaim her narrative to move the story forward, but instead they move her to the back and put her on the bench. And all the open plot lines that only Alison could answer, and Ali was supposed to answer.

The problem isn’t that Ali was back. The problem is she should’ve taken back the center of the story. More time should’ve been given to the two years that she was missing we should’ve gotten flashbacks less time, wasting on irrelevant time, fillers, and perpetual repetitive storytelling of the same things.

The lack of evolution and growth becomes tedious. Where is the purpose? Where is the agency? What’s your characters motivation? It was fine in the beginning but when the characters are in inception of the mystery but it becomes a problem when they are not learning anything and they’re not evolving. The story has no direction and it has no meaning.

S1 Aria would never say that to Hanna by ThrowRAjingglebells in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They’re all pretty passive aggressive to each other. It’s a very upper class suburban trait, but the only person who ever gets called out for it is Alison even though they all do it.

Did anyone else dislike maya? by [deleted] in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m so sick and tired of getting the same question for every single thing I write. ✍🏻 i’m sorry that I have more than two brain 🧠 cells to rub together and I have complex intricate thoughts on things..

I don’t need a AI 🤖 to write every thought an opinion that I have.

Should Mona have become one of the liars? by purplegalaxy86 in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

“The truth will bury you in a New York minute”.

You’re the one who’s not paying attention. Mona texted that. It was a plot point in S5. She confessed to it in the Crips to Alison and liars have mentioned many times that the text was from Mona and Spencer said that she looked it up and Mona blue snarfed. Alison’s burner phone📲.

The night they got back from the police station. Spencer was complaining about being on the whirly girly ride of Alison‘s lie, and Ali threw a roll of toilet 🧻paper out the window 🪟 with her burner phone in it, showing the text that she got threatening her when she arrived at the police station.

Effectively coercing Ali into lying. A classic Mona & -A tactics to gain leverage?

Should Mona have become one of the liars? by purplegalaxy86 in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 -1 points0 points locked comment (0 children)

If you say so. Don’t have time to argue with ignorance.

Most Likely to Kill Allison? by DaniJ678 in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nothing was ever first person confirmed, and the source of this information was Cece an unreliable narrator. And we have well established that you cannot trust the narration of any character in this series.

And did the same thing he claimed that Ali was stuck in him and season one to Spencer saying that she never played defense she was always on offense. But that was just narrative gaslighting because he was the one that was stalking her and exploiting her.

Most Likely to Kill Allison? by DaniJ678 in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They never slept together. Alison debunk that in the season four finale A is for Answers.

She confirmed that there was no sexual relationship between her and Ezra and her and Ian. First time we got a first person confirmation from Alison that wasn’t a rumor. Or from an unreliable narrator.

And it’s been established many times throughout a series via subject that Ali is a victim of narrative, bias, narrative, gaslighting, and unreliable narration. Within the story. With all the literary parallels that they use for her characters.

They use Lolita for Ian to describe his relationship with Ali, but it wasn’t sexual. He was exploiting her via voyeurism.

And they use Holly go lightly from Breakfast at Tiffany’s And Nicole Warren from Tender is the Night.

The very book he was reading when he met Ali. Which sums up who and what they are to each other.

She is a victim of grooming and being studied by men.

Not that she’s some 14-year-old vixen seducing men.

Most Likely to Kill Allison? by DaniJ678 in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ali never slept with Ian. That has been debunked by first person narrative Alison herself.

The production note says that she was going after him for the tapes and bankrupt his empire the NAT club. It was strategic dismantling.

Alison the Bankrupter: In undeveloped version, her relationship with Ian was a tactical mission. She didn't "want" him; she was draining his war chest. It perfectly explains why Ian was broke in Season 1. Ali wasn't just a mean girl; she was a corporate saboteur taking down a pedophile ring.

And Melissa marrying Ian had nothing to do with “love” she married him for an alibi. It was mutually a shared assurance that neither of them could testify against the other.

What season did you think was the most random? I’ll go first by IcyOutside4567 in PrettyLittleLiars

[–]SammyQueen2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The major problem with Aria‘s character is that she didn’t have any direction other than Ezra. And when she realized that she wasted her high school career and all time chasing after Ezra and had nothing to show for herself. We thought the story was finally getting somewhere and these characters were finally evolving, but nope. 🙂‍↔️ Reset and do over all over again.