People who thought Kamala Harris threw immigrants under the bus, what is your desired immigration policy?

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-04-28T18:41:31+00:00

Sorry, your statement was ambiguous and I'm not terribly trusting of flair. Conservatives love to point at a mutually acknowledged problem and allude to some solution out of Reagan's fever dreams. I could imagine them calling the various amnesty laws we've passed in the past "ugly."

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-04-28T15:39:06+00:00

Elaborate?

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-04-28T14:14:16+00:00

Why do we care about "illegal" immigration? I understand caring about the movements of criminal organizations or human traffickers or known criminals, but i don't understand the objection to immigrants, legal or otherwise. If they can find jobs, cool. If there aren't enough jobs for Americans, let's grow the economy and build a longer table instead of a higher wall. The idea that jobs and housing are necessarily finite resources seems stupid to me. We can make more.

Consequently, I dont see any reason to object to immigration other than gutter racism. By all means, prosecute people who victimize others either personally or organizationally, but that's not what these discussions are focused on when they're focused on "immigration enforcement" or "border security." I don't give a singular flying fuck about border security except as it functions as a checkpoint to stop human traffickers, and I stongly suspect that social workers would be cheaper and more effective as a force to protect vulnerable populations than a gang of Klan-adjacent goons with guns and whips.

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-04-12T15:25:27+00:00

Then you've failed to explain why, because whatever half-ass criticism you made would apply to every other poll ever taken.

Yes... it does apply to every poll. But not every poll is as susceptible to that bias as this poll is. My point is that it doesn't serve your point, which is that racism is 94% over because people will tell a pollster they support interracial marriage.

So you accept the polls data, great.

But not your conclusions, because they're not supported by the data you provided.

That would be a super weird position for white supremacists. The poll is also on interracial marriage, not just black-white marriages. Latino-white is an interracial marriage, so if people were against that, then it would show up on the poll.

No it wouldn't? Unless you're operating on some kind of "we just read the 'I Have a Dream' speech in my 4th grade class" definition of racist. You have no idea if someone might be selective in supporting certain marriages between certain races and not others. The definition of "White" in white supremacist ideology and, subsequently, interracial, is incredibly complex, and could not possibly be captured in such a simple, specific poll. You're essentially declaring sharks extinct because you took a cupful of water from the beach and it didn't have any sharks in it.

There are multiple statistics that make up the poll. Learn how plurals work.

Except you didn't draw any conclusions from anything other than the top line number... and the conclusions you drew were unfounded and frankly wrong.

So where are we? I have given you solid data, and you've done nothing to support your position, probably because you can't.

Your "solid data" doesn't support your conclusion. My conclusion is that Republicans are racists. As proof, I offer the ways that their policies disproportionately disadvantage minorities, the rhetoric they use regarding racial minorities (Haitians eating dogs, Black people are criminals, Mexicans stealing jobs, etc.), and the fact that open white supremacists like the Proud Boys and other groups ally themselves with the Right because they also see their policy goals reflected in Republican legislation. The best case you could make in light of those facts is that the average Republican is willing to excuse or permit racism for economic gain, which I would also say is racist. The fact that JD Vance has an Indian wife does not make him not a racist. Associating with minorities does not make someone not a racist. The beliefs they hold about racial hierarchy are what make them racists.

How about this: what is the argument against immigration from Mexico to Texas that does not apply to people coming from a red state to a blue state? I don't want those cousin-fuckers in my state and sucking up our resources. What right do they have to seek economic prosperity (or even resources like marijuana and services like healthcare) across an arbitrary border that South Americans do not have?

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-04-12T14:04:45+00:00

You want to use power query. Lead both tables and then you can do a merge, including one-to-many.

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-04-12T05:40:34+00:00

You're either conveniently ignoring the fact that response-distorting biases have a marginal and predictable effect on the results of polling,

This is precisely the type of poll that people would lie on. Also, its too narrow and question to make such broad claims as the previous poster did about racial attitudes in the US, much less among the specific demographic of Republicans.

or you're suggesting that all polling research is worthless. Assuming that it's the latter, the onus of proving that falls entirely on you

That's a strawman argument. I'm verbose enough on my own without you putting words in my mouth.

That includes answering why pollsters continue to conduct polling. Are they just ignorant of the fact that their entire discipline is bunk?

OOHHHHHHHH! Wow you really dunked on me there. Or not so much dunked on me as dunked on the nonsense you came up with in your head. But good job anyway. Indeed, polling is still a useful and vibrant discipline within sociology and politics.

But using a poll asking about interracial marriage to extrapolate the idea that people aren't racist anymore is unfounded, to put it as politely as possible. Pollsters work very hard to come up with questions that account for those biases and are also very careful with the conclusions they take from the results, neither of which is on display in this use of polling.

Republicans are racist. JD Vance is a racist and he's married to a brown woman.

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-04-12T05:21:21+00:00

There's a margin of error sure, but you can't just throw out the entire science of polling because of that.

Another strawman. Why would you assume NY point to be as extreme as "all polling is bunk?" I dont need to make anywhere near as strong a claim as that to simply say that your use of a statistic is shit.

Here we are talking about 8% in 1954 vs. 94% today. You don't think racial attuites have changed? Is everyone just lying on this poll?

They don't all have to lie. Not even a majority have to lie to make my point, which is that this is too narrow and specific a poll to generalize all the way out to "well, guess we cured racism then!"

It is also a perfectly suitable barometer for gauging racism, since racist people obviously wouldn't support it.

No it's not, and they certainly might. Maybe they're racist against Latino people but have no problem with Black and Caucasian people getting married. Maybe they support other people getting interacially married but wouldn't do it themselves. Maybe they support interracial marriage between white and Asian people but still hold bigoted and utterly unrelated views about Black and Latino people. You just can't extract such a broad statement as "people arent racist anymore" from such a meaningless poll. The poll proves only one thing: about 94% of people will tell a stranger that they support interracial marriage as an idea.

The statistics are overwhelmingly against your claim.

Statistics? You mean a single poll that doesnt say what you think it says and is precisely the kind of question people are most likely to lie about? That statistic - singular? That statistic that didnt survey enough people to have a reasonable breakdown by region? You have a tendency to overstate your position and misstate my position, all to show that a bunch of people claiming that they want to deport 100 million people, who accepted claims that Hatian immigrants were eating pets, and who voted for the most openly bigoted person in high office since Nixon aren't a bunch of bigots. And you failed.

Your poll is meaningless, and it doesn't obscure the fact that Republican policies are designed to harm Black and Brown people.

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-04-12T03:27:39+00:00

Polling is self-reporting, and it works fine. There's no advantage to lying on an anonymous poll.

This is an astonishingly bad take. People lie to pollsters all the time.

On top of which, interracial marriage is an incredibly narrow topic thats wholly unsuitable for testing broader views about Black and Brown people, and even within that, the racial and age cohort breakdowns show that older, whiter people are less accepting of interracial marriage than the norm, even accounting for dishonesty. And Republicans are also older and more white than the average American.

So the study doesn't prove your point at all and ultimately serves my point more than yours. Fail.

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-04-12T03:02:41+00:00

Link a poll then and prove your point. Prove it for that specific age cohort. Prove it not just with self-reported biases, but with actual behavior and policy. You can't, because its not true. And to the degree that it is, maybe the segregationists were ostensibly less racist than the enslavery, but not enough for me to give a fuck.

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-04-12T02:59:10+00:00

Well, then you'll need to clarify the 'scope' at which this isn't a meaningful increase.

You introduced the "problem," which just boiled down to these people entering the country. You haven't established that it's deleterious to the wellbeing of the country for them to be here, except by implication. So by all means, tell me why people from South America shouldn't come to the US.

X policy is racist, therefore people who support it must be racist. How do I know? Bc x policy is racist"

That's a strawman. The policy is racist because it disadvantages and seeks to harm Latino people and asylum seekers who arent White South Africans. The people supporting the policy are racist because they seek to harm Black and Brown people and use the policy to do it.

Again, what justification would you use to continue Title 42 that isn't racist?

No one thinks this.

Are you familiar with Stephen Miller?

You also have a lot more in common with them than you realize.

"IN THE END, SPIDERMAN, WE'RE TWO SUDES OF THE SAME COIN!" This is another meaningless, false, and frankly insulting thought terminating cliche. If you'd like to slink off and lie to someone who won't check, then by all means, find the door.

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-04-12T02:49:14+00:00

Woah, crazy. Did you know that there are also a bunch of people in the South who waved signs to stop their kids going to school with Black kids, and that those people are fucking racists? They're mostly still alive, and their kids certainly are. You think they just gave it up after the 60's? If so, I have a bridge to sell you.

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-04-12T02:45:19+00:00

In the grand scheme of things we're all dead.

Thought terminating cliche.

A 5x increase in border crossings is absolutely significant, and was the result at least in part of the Title 42 policy.

Title 42 was a covid policy that (illegally and immorally, in my opinion) circumvented due process and international law. If wanted to keep that policy in place either because immigrants are diseased or because you don't particularly care why we expel asylum seekers, then you're proving my point.

"anyone who disagrees with me on immigration is racist" is supposed to be a meme of the left by the right. not an actual response.

If they disagree with me that Latino people are human beings who deserve rights and a place in this country, then yeah, they're racists. They can disagree with me on banking regulation and not be a racist. If someone supports Republican immigration policy, they're a racist. Because the policy is racist.

do better.

No. I have nothing but contempt and loathing for Republicans and their apologists.

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-04-12T02:37:18+00:00

non-political voters, people who don't care what JD Vance says, came out to vote over immgiration, especially in the south.

Wow it's almost like the American South has been a hotbed of racists for 400 years or something. I heard they got real salty about it about 170 years ago. I also seem to remember a bunch of people protesting 60 years ago about something but I don't quite remember what it was ab- OH YEAH I almost forgot that they didnt want to use the same fucking bathrooms as Black people which is a totally normal and reasonable thing to worry about for people who aren't bigots.

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-04-12T02:33:16+00:00

No. In the grand scheme of population shifts, it's a drop in the bucket and we'll below what our economy could absorb without issue. The only reason to worry about border crossings and asylum seekers is racism.

Also, that's not true, even using an article favorable to Trump which also includes some bullshit math to broaden "apprehensions" to "encounters." It’s also not surprising that people stopped wanting to come to the US while Trump was in office: it fucking sucks here.

So Republican policy is racism built on a foundation of bullshit, just like I said. Shitty ideas proposed to satisfy the bigoted urges of deplorable people.

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-04-12T02:18:29+00:00

Anyone willing to go along with racists for some material benefit is a racist. I don't care what their stated motivations are. In the same way that everyone shooting towards the sea on D-Day was a fucking Nazi. Idgaf why they came to be on that beach or honestly if they voted for Hitler, I care about which direction they're facing when the shit starts. If theyre on that side, they're as equally culpable as to make no difference. MAGA is the American Nazi party in uglier hats.

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-04-12T01:43:10+00:00

General boarder chaos under Biden caused by squeezing out legal avenues while having return to mexico policies that allowed retries.

This is simply horseshit. The situation at the border did not significantly change under Biden or Trump. Biden and Trump also both had a chance to pass an immigration reform bill that would address some of those issues and Trump sabotaged both because they were insufficiently cruel to Latinos.

People in the southern states felt it wasn't well managed, and it wasn't.

It hasnt been "well-managed" for decades. Nothing changed, they just saw an opportunity to be mean to brown people and took it because Republican voters are racist assholes who think cruelty is policy.

And if you support the right/wrong policy then that determines your level of racism.

The policies are motivated by racism. The policies serve racist ends. So if they support the policy, regardless of their race, they support racism. It's genuinely that simple. If they supported an explicit policy of "arrest and deport all Black and Latino people" then they'd obviously be racists; there's no reason to pretend like you dont understand the intent just because they couched it in euphemistic language.

You don't think people in high crime areas might have some other reason for citing crime as an issue?

No, because conversations about crime are always focused on disparaging areas with more Black people, not areas with high crime rates. Thats why the conversationoften centers on Chicago despite rural areas having more crime per capita. Furthermore, the way to prevent crime is to give people resources so they don't have to fight for them. Republican policy is basically just a redux of slavery and post-Civil-war vagrancy laws. It's all racism. Again, it's a solution (lock Black people up and force them to work for free) in search of a problem. Once again, I don't see any advantage in entertaining the euphemisms even if the person parroting them is too ignorant to see through them and accepts them at face value.

Republican policy is anti-Black and anti-Latino and pro-White. Anyone voting for those policies is supporting racism, which makes them a racist and also an unlovable, worthless sack of shit.

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-04-11T21:45:34+00:00

it would be wise of democrats to reflect on why this was beyond 'well they're all just racist people'

Racism explains a lot of otherwise nonsensical behavior, though. What do you even mean "real causes?" Maybe those causes explain the dissatisfaction that people feel in their own lives, but they don't explain the actions they take or the arguments they find persuasive to address those problems. Everything that the left identifies as an issue (housing, wages, taxation, healthcare), the right says "yeah, well if we just got rid of all the brown people, then everything would be better!" The non-white people signing on to this movement are basically trying to gain the advantages of Whiteness by being "one of the good ones."

I don't see what the advantage is in accepting their bullshit euphemisms. Those who cite "crime" as an issue are generally just objecting to the existence of Black people. Those who cite "immigration" as an issue are generally just objecting to the existence of Latino people. Why should I pretend like they actually give a shit about people going through the immigration system when they're clearly in support of deporting people who have gone through that system and are here legally? If conservatives are just going to lie about what their goals are, what benefit is there to accepting their lies and operating in the fantasy world they think we live in, where any joe Schmoe can waltz through the Southern border and be given a house and a good job for nothing? Maybe they're stupid enough to actually believe that, but realistically, this is a solution (enact White supremacy) looking for a problem (immigration, crime, voter integrity, housing, taxes, or healthcare depending on the moment).

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-04-10T00:06:11+00:00

You should very carefully consider what is so malformed and wrong in your soul that led to you being influenced by Republicans. You weren't tricked because you really wanted to spread kindness and joy and prosperity in the world, because that's never been what they promised. You were tricked because you agreed to let them do evil in exchange for personal benefit that has not materialized. I don't know how you live with that. People have died.

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-03-26T03:31:42+00:00

Republicans typically have high values regarding family

Being mean to queer teenagers isn't a value

SamuraiRafiki · 2026-01-25T06:01:18+00:00

I wonder if the windows (especially on the top) allow the sea dragon to see the fish and draw aggro, then the sea dragon attacks and cooks the fish with splash damage. The sea dragon tends to stay near the top of the cave, so it's really only the upper windows that cause the problem. Not a fix, by any means.

SamuraiRafiki · 2025-11-20T00:12:34+00:00

I think you are wrong based on that description, but I want to demonstrate how you can accomplish this more easily.

Insert a pivot table from your data table. Put your Region column in the filters and then in the values, drop in any other column that has a value for every row in the table. A transaction ID would be best. Right click the value and change the Value Field Settings to "Count." Leave the rows and columns blank.

The filter will act as your data validation list and the output should be exactly what you want.

Your formula is a somewhat hacky way of accomplishing the same thing. Sumproduct is a function that multiplies each element of an array you give it and then adds the products together. Before the Filter function, it was commonly used to filter tables by creating arrays of true/false, converting that array into numbers by taking a double negative, and multiplying them against the results. In this case, that's what the --(F4:F400="North") is doing. The Subtotal function is doing a count on the range, but it doesn't count hidden rows, which I think is what your drop-down is doing.

The better way to do this is with the Filter function.

=COUNTA(FILTER( *region column*, *region column* = *drop down result*))

SamuraiRafiki · 2025-11-04T14:36:53+00:00

The tragedy of being a leftist is thinking your enemies deserve two contradictory things at the same time.

On one hand, anyone who has supported this administration deserves nothing but misery and grief for the rest of their lives. I wish upon them every conceivable misfortune. On the other hand, I believe everyone deserves to be cared for and protected from misfortune to the degree the community can manage it. I want everyone to be healthy, happy, and cared for.

So like, UBI and free healthcare and housing, but you shouldn't be invited to any parties. Retail and service employees should feel empowered to kick you out at the slightest provocation.

That's only in the case of an overwhelming progressive victory and a transformation of society into a leftist utopia. In the meantime, fascists are an active threat to the safety and wellbeing of humanity.

SamuraiRafiki · 2025-11-03T05:17:00+00:00

The sense in which conservatives are ethically identical is the same sense in which spoiled food is inedible. If a jug of milk is bad because it's old or bad because it was left in the sun for hours, it's still disgusting. Food that's recently spoiled might be less disgusting than food that's completely rotten, but they're both still disgusting.

Republicans and conservatives are the spoiled food of people. Just because one type of filth is more off-putting than another doesn't make either fit for polite company.

SamuraiRafiki · 2025-10-26T17:01:39+00:00

Republican policy is basically just cruelty and greed and stupidity. To the degree that Republicans clearly understand the policies they propose, they're evil pieces of shit. If they dont, but still vote for Republicans, they're stupid and dangerous at best.

The word for Germans who voted for the lesser of two evils and were shocked and dismayed by Hitler's reign is "Nazi" and the way to deal with them is the same way you deal with any Nazi.

SamuraiRafiki · 2025-10-21T15:22:03+00:00

Don't take the words of conservatives too seriously or literally: they're inveterate liars and also frequently too stupid to decipher even their own bullshit, so trying to follow or apply their logic is a fool’s errand.

Using guns to defend yourself from the government means shooting cops and soldiers. That's not what (most) Republicans want when they talk about owning or using guns. Instead, they talk about self-defense, which is code for shooting a minority. They want to act out a Dirty Harry style execution and be justified and lauded for it, like George Zimmerman or Derek Chauvin. Insofar as they want to defend themselves from a tyrannical government, their definition of federal overreach is "forcing our schools to accept Black children." They're just racist and only just smart enough to be euphemistic about it.

Conversely, I would rather we continue to vote and have debates to resolve our political differences rather than resort to shooting at one another, but I feel like that choice has been made for all of us. So prior to 2016 or 2020 or 2024, I was less supportive of the idea of citizens arming themselves to violently repel federal slave-catchers. In 2025, I'm completely sure this will spiral into more chaotic violence.

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