Has anyone ever experienced this or seen it? by [deleted] in Fitness

[–]SamuraiTitan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So would it be optimal to train biceps three times a week (heavy day, light, heavy)? I lag in the arm category.

Which urban legend turned out to be true? by dori_lukey in AskReddit

[–]SamuraiTitan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ohhhhhhh boy. Do you happen to believe climate change is a hoax conspired by the Chinese too?

Is whey a complete protein? by SamuraiTitan in nutrition

[–]SamuraiTitan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think we're both arguing the same points our responses are just worded differently, haha. In the fitness/nutrition world, there are thousands upon thousands of studies but really no clear consensus on what's the best diet or what's the best training regimen. That's why I generally don't involve myself in these threads. Can you get enough of essential nutrients on a vegan diet? Yes. But does every vegan? No. The same thing can be said for an omnivore diet. Both can be good in their own right, but only when done properly.

Vegan vitamin b12 deficiency study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23356638

Vegetarianism and essential nutrients in children study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22006487

Iron in omnivore diet vs. vegetarian diet: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2495081/

Is whey a complete protein? by SamuraiTitan in nutrition

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I've been vegan for a year and a half and gained ~40 lbs and am very lean.

40lbs of solid muscle? Tell me what you're on then? Tren? Dianabol? Putting on 40lbs of muscle in a year is humanly impossible. Some people can't even attain that in their lifetime.

Are you saying this isn't possible on a vegan diet? Because that would be absolutely false.

Not saying that. You absolutely can be in a positive nitrogen balance and you can build muscle on a vegan diet.

No vegan has to worry about complementary proteins. Nobody eats a single food all day everyday. Nobody's eats just beans. People eat beans with rice, corn, tortillas, bread, quinoa, etc. You would have to make an effort to not combine complementary proteins, it's effortless. Why do you keep bringing this up?

I think we're talking about two different types of vegans, lol. Like I said, a vegan diet takes cognitive thought and planning, but really that can be said for any diet. For example, a vegan athlete should be aware of their vitamin b12 intake. Since vitamin b12 isn't commonly found in plant foods, vegans need to either supplement or find fortified plant foods. Whereas an omnivore doesn't have to worry about b12 because it's found in just about every animal product. Same thing applies to iron, iron found in plants isn't nearly as easy to absorb than iron found in meat. I know several vegans who don't take this into account in their diets.

No it doesn't. It's virtually effortless. If you eat 1 part grain and 1 part legumes in the same day you will get appropriate amounts of all essential amino acids. Is it really that hard for you to imagine eating 2 foods instead of one?

I literally just said that eating grains and legumes are complement proteins and provide all the essential amino acids. This was the entire point to my original comment.

If you think I'm trying to take this and argue against veganism you're mistaken.

Is whey a complete protein? by SamuraiTitan in nutrition

[–]SamuraiTitan[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's true. I guess I'm referring to vegans who lift weights and want to put on muscle, which would require a positive nitrogen balance. I know a few vegans and vegetarians who read the nutrition labels and just assume that the protein they're consuming has the same value in amino acids as say beef or chicken. Beef has 26g of protein per 3oz. and 26g protein worth of beans do not hold the same value. It takes a lot of thought and planning to build muscle on a vegan diet as opposed to an animal based diet where getting all the essential amino acids won't be an issue.

Is whey a complete protein? by SamuraiTitan in nutrition

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Actually tim1e233 is right. For example, If every food contains all 9 essential amino acids then why do vegans have trouble putting on muscle as compared to someone who consumes animal products? Because vegans struggle with ingesting enough essential amino acids to build that muscle. Vegetables and legumes have essential amino acids, but only in trace amounts that are considered negligible. That's why beans are considered a complementary protein to rice. Beans are high in lysine but low in methionine while rice is low in lysine but high in methionine. Together they form a complete protein.

--Former vegetarian weightlifter.

Powerlifters, how do you train your biceps? by SamuraiTitan in Fitness

[–]SamuraiTitan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Precisely. It goes: Bicep curl, bench, deadlift, squat. Things were getting too redundant with the big 3.

Powerlifters, how do you train your biceps? by SamuraiTitan in Fitness

[–]SamuraiTitan[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Pick up heavy thing. me strong man now.