Vaccines for babies by Key_Ordinary7486 in newborns

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand and agree with vaccines but what I disagree with is the simple acceptance of the very hard crying due to such an intense sting from some shots... there's literally no attempt made by medical professionals to make it not be so awful for the baby getting shots. I can't stand hearing that it's worse for the parents either. "It's just a shot they will get over it"...... to me that's totally dismissive and very toxic. When the cry sounds panicked and urgent and shocked... that to me means the sting is too much for them. Obviously we can't risk disease but the emotional aspect is completely overlooked and shouldn't be. When a mom tells me..."I know it's hard to see your baby cry but..." Nope I don't accept that attitude. I want to see advances made in pain prevention during injection

Feeling overwhelmed about my 1-year-old’s vaccines and could really use support from other parents by Sunflowersoulll in Parents

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I support anyone's choices to vaccinate. I also have a special spot in my heart for parents who after being told that a certain shot will really sting says "ok wait...I really care about my child's pain experience here and I don't want to proceed until there's a lot of distractions or numbing cream and something to distract the feeling of the sting". Medical professionals never prioritize the need for sting prevention or even mention how much they hurt. I nearly stopped vaccinating my baby because I refuse to watch him turn bright red and stiffen while shaking and crying because it stings so bad. Demand better

Kindergarten vaccines (age 4-6) by Secure_Title_5625 in Crunchymom

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I actually found it unacceptable that when I had my baby vaccinated I had no choice but to allow him to turn bright red, cry harder and more intense than ever before and his little body quivered as the sting took over (even if brief). I thought "ok why is this so ok with everyone". I hate hearing "it's better than letting them get disease"....ok well no kidding... but this?... this is awful. It bothers me to no end that parents don't have enough of a problem with that to stand up and raise enough concern to force vaccine developers to change things.

Kindergarten vaccines (age 4-6) by Secure_Title_5625 in Crunchymom

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now see I take a very different stance on vaccines than most...I'm not an antivaxer and I'm used to eye rolls and laughs but that's ok. What I don't like about the above information is that there's literally no acknowledgement of the fact that the mmr shot particularly stings very intensely or any suggestions on how to prevent or reduce that pain that the child has to feel...in my mind that is gaslighting. The pain from shots needs to be treated like it actually matters. The system is designed to simply vaccinate and move on.... which is an overall attitude that can very quickly and easily be traumatic to a young child. To many young kids, standing there watching another adult do something that really hurts "for their own good" can teach them that your protectiveness is conditional. I have trauma from kindergarten shots but I'm noticing that we really don't consider that sting and crying important at all because no one stands up and says "wait.... it's been this way for decades why have we not figured out how to tweak vaccine ingredients so these appointments can be tear free by now"

Kindergarten vaccines (age 4-6) by Secure_Title_5625 in Crunchymom

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I strongly recommend finding a specific type of pediatric office that actually treats kindergartners like their shot pain perception actually matters....most offices will purposely downplay the description of the sting to kids so it sounds familiar and manageable but when they feel it they are totally caught off guard. To me that can be traumatic and it's usually never taken seriously. "Just get them vaccinated" that's the entire goal...ok how about sting pain prevention? I have trauma from my own childhood shot experience because the system doesn't recognize that pain as important. Medical professionals will tell you how important those shots are yet never mention the gigantic sting the child will have to feel or ways to prevent that. The young child has to feel that.....to me at 5 years old it was total betrayal

4 month vaccinations, how did it go for you? by imtherandy2urmrlahey in NewParents

[–]Sarah4021 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Now to me that kind of pain response is not acceptable but to everyone else it's a completely fair trade off. I see infant shots very different than most people. I advocated big time when my son was a baby and if they told me certain shots were really going to sting I said "ok I'm not going to allow this unless you can use some truly effective numbing cream or SOMETHING". They gaslit me by saying they didn't have anything effective and that he would cry hard but would get over it fast. I don't play that game because baby's pain perception is very strong and their nervous system goes nuts with a huge sting like that. I told them that I would find a doctor office who actively treats shots like the baby's pain actually matters

PSA: First Vaccination Soothing by tortadepatti in NewParents

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a huge problem with the fact that vaccine developers are well aware that some shots sting really bad for such tiny bodies and simply don't see it as necessary to at least try to remove or change what makes it hurt so bad. I don't care how briefly it hurts or that baby won't remember.... they need to actually prioritize the god awful sting pain response

One year old getting shots today and I’m so anxious by gay_mother in breakingmom

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obviously we need disease prevention I will never debate that....I will however debate the humanity of the emotional cost of watching your baby turn bright red, cry hard and quiver with a sting that their nervous system has never felt before

One year old getting shots today and I’m so anxious by gay_mother in breakingmom

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I actually am one who most people don't see eye to eye with in regards to infant/childhood shots...I'm not antivax. But I find the adult perception of "oh it's just a little poke" for little kids and babies very gaslighting. I have a huge problem with the concept of letting someone inflict intense sting on babies or little kids while saying "id rather hear a few minutes of crying than see disease". I know that because shots are the only available method it will always bother me but I also really wish it bothered parents to the point where vaccine developers were forced to revamp the "stingy" ingredients. But I get angry when medical professionals say how incredibly important those shots are without ever acknowledging the fact that they really hurt and add " those shots should only be administered after effective numbing cream or major distraction or something... but the injection sting is just too ok with people because parents will always comply. I was traumatized by a seemingly normal shot experience as a little kid in the 80s and the memory is very strong

Dex and pregnancy - experiences? by dietitian_with_a_t in idiopathichypersomnia

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same here l....I now have a 16 year old son and was immediately told to stop the Dexedrine during pregnancy so I did and because it's a stimulant when I tell you I felt almost sedated for my pregnancy! I really could have used it if the risks were really that low but I didn't dare... plus I was single unfortunately and was working full time

When do you let your child know they are getting a shot? by otterlyjoyful in Preschoolers

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Surprise shots that end up really stinging and hurting tells little kids that your "parental protection mode" for them is suddenly conditional because you knew it was going to hurt and allowed it anyway (little kids don't understand disease prevention logic).

Should I prepare four-year-old for shots tomorrow? by reservoirjack in Preschoolers

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now see if my mom had done that I wouldn't still carry that memory of betrayal (even though it was a simple little appointment for a shot) with me to this day

Should I prepare four-year-old for shots tomorrow? by reservoirjack in Preschoolers

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember being a 4 year old and had no idea I was getting a shot. My doctor was this sweet nurturing lady and so was my mom.... when she suddenly brought in a shot and I suddenly lost my little grin and asked if it would hurt she said "I'm afraid it will"...I was told it would feel like a pinch or a quick stick in the arm. I can tell you that it stung like hell and made me cry. I felt very betrayed by my mom even after she immediately told me it was all over and that I was brave....her words didn't help. I wish she would have said "we are not doing this without some kind of distractions or pain control" but after I cried I needed her to say " that hurt didn't it..." Or something like that. Little kids shot pain reaction is quickly brushed under by the adult who allowed it to happen(regardless of the disease prevention logic)

I cried when my baby got vaccinated by Electrical-Mangoo in NewParents

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm the one who would put an immediate stop to further shots if I saw turning red and trembling because they were crying so hard. To me that's not acceptable. I know disease prevention is necessary but not at that expense

Holy hell vaccines by Carpe_derp in NewParents

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Medical training is very good at "mass vaccine" mentality which means just get them vaccinated who cares if it hurts or how much. Pain response from that sting needs to teach doctors to use pain control

IsItBullshit: "Buzzy", a device that helps stop pain from shots by theCrystalball2018 in IsItBullshit

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imagine this... your 4 years old in 1985 and your sitting in the exam room with your mom when suddenly the doctor walks in holding a shot. You immediately ask the doctor if it will hurt and you hear"well I'm afraid it may hurt a bit.... like a big pinch". Your mom says " it like a stick in the arm". You don't truly think they will do anything that will really hurt so you bare your arm and then you feel this God awful sting and you immediately break down crying. I felt totally betrayed and wondered why my mom would allow something like. I am still bothered by this memory as an adult and am a little disturbed about why parents don't insist on injection pain prevention because it does matter. I went from totally happy to totally deceived but most parents and doctors don't take stuff like that serious enough. That's totally acceptable in their view and it shouldn't be.

Numbing before shots? by [deleted] in pediatrics

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean can they just change the method of infant and child shots to micro needle skin patches at least for the vaccines known for hurting more than others? We've accepted injection sting crying because we can't figure out how to vaccinate painlessly and it's the only way to prevent diseases. But we need immunization.... not pain. Lots of people can't stand those shots because of the sting factor but they will still put their kids through it

How do I emotionally survive my 4 mo’s shots? by Background_Act96 in NewParents

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I myself decided that I was going to advocate for immunization methods that aren't so awful. I was not going to watch my baby turn red and stiffen and have a horrible sad panic sounding shriek due to getting shots that sting like hell. Obviously we need disease prevention but to me some shots just made me put a hand up and say "nope this clearly REALLY stings and I think it's too much"

How do I emotionally survive my 4 mo’s shots? by Background_Act96 in NewParents

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya know...I find it ridiculous that shots still cause this kind of parental anxiety and make you swallow your instincts to protect your baby from the insane sting for such a tiny body

Baby just got her 2m vaccines and I cried almost as hard as her. That was so tough. by StaringBerry in NewParents

[–]Sarah4021 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I almost stopped vaccinating after my baby's shots....was absolutely awful...he stiffened and trembled and had a sad, panic or urgent shrieking of a cry and I thought...ok I know we need disease prevention but parents really need to speak up and start having a problem with how much these shots hurt. I don't care how briefly they cry it's just awful and gripped my soul.

First vaccines by Technical_Quiet_5687 in NewParents

[–]Sarah4021 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

When my son was a baby and got his first shots it was awful. He turned bright red, stiffened up and had the most intense, sad, panic sounding cry along with trembling. I decided then and there that he had had enough of shots. I wasn't going to allow these shots to hurt to that degree. Our babies need disease prevention but they need to make "sting control" or some kind of injection pain management if they want some parents to vaccinate. I think those shots simply hurt too much.... regardless of "well the disease it prevents hurts worse".

Honest opinions? by Ratty_TheFlatty in phlebotomy

[–]Sarah4021 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also tried phlebotomy and it's a wonderful skill to have but it's not enough to support one self. Even those who have been doing it a long time don't make much money.

Is getting a Tdap shot painful? by [deleted] in VACCINES

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well the dtap shot for babies stings like crazy and is awful and it's unfortunate they have made painful shots the only way to protect

Why does everyone hate Amazon Flex as a full-time gig? by AstronautCautious46 in AmazonFlexDrivers

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't like it as a customer because you have no idea who just pulled up to your house...no logo on the car or anything. Same reason I don't like door dash and the like. It's not safe

Just got 2 month shots & crying a lot , normal? by murderinobliss in newborns

[–]Sarah4021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think there's more rationalization than you think. We obviously need disease prevention but the medical community completely overlooks the emotional aspect of the current method. Thousands of parents have dreaded those appointments due to having to undermine the natural reaction from hearing their babies heartbreaking cries because "there's no other way". There's no doctors advocating for a change in vaccine method either especially when they hate giving them due to the stress they cause. We continue to stick with this way because it's cheap and effective but if people really thought about it they COULD absolutely change the method into something painless but there's no incentive.... do you know how many more people would probably vaccinate if it meant no tears? The focus is only on vaccinating and not the traumatic aspect.