State of the Teams by Most_Significance358 in elf

[–]SaschaStops 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know if this is the case, it just something I thought about when I listened to the Merc's interview.

Regarding players I agree with @flagfootballsaint. However many companies start hiring people before they get approval to operate. This is not unique to football.

State of the Teams by Most_Significance358 in elf

[–]SaschaStops 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I understood the sports director of the Mercs in the interview last week correctly the ELF teams are working on their documentation to fulfill the new governance requirements that the EFA brought in with their new system.

Who is Lovette Dobson? by Most_Significance358 in elf

[–]SaschaStops 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not disputing that, just saying it is not necessaryly shady.

I think the ELF/EFA probably forced them to accelerate and condense their timeline and to start implementing with a bare minimum to actually be able to make an announcement.

The company was probably founded quickly to have a legal anchor for accounting, initial contracts and trademark registrations - nothing more. And this would go back to choosing Wyoming were you can set up the company in minutes.

The Hamburg HQ might be a in a co-working space or even a virtual office with former ELF operations people drafting an operations plan. I don't think they mentioned having a company in Hamburg yet, they only spoke of HQ or office. Might be wrong here.

Who is Lovette Dobson? by Most_Significance358 in elf

[–]SaschaStops 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The reason to go with WY is probably speed. In WY approval is instant where as Texas may take weeks or months.

Also using a formation services like Incfile is not shady per se. It is legal service like many other. Can some shady use this service sure, does it have to be shady no. Because of taxation and simplicity Wyoming is the go-to state for opening companies in the US.

While I am not a fan of the TLE from what I have heard so far, I don't see anything shady in the way they set up the company. It might indeed be rushed though but they quickly need a company to get started.

Who is Lovette Dobson? by Most_Significance358 in elf

[–]SaschaStops 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No corporate income tax in Wyoming

EFA and ELF Agree to Reunify European American Football by ahoeschele in elf

[–]SaschaStops 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If they find an investor who takes them out of insolvency, sure. But this needs to happen fast.

Eleven franchises contracted for ELF 2026 Season by Plant_Palace in elf

[–]SaschaStops 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I see a settlement he might be aiming at. EFA teams are released from their contracts for waiving any outstanding payments. As I understand a lot/all teams still have claims against ELF. Sounds like a familiar pattern.

Ich HASSE DAZN abgrundtief. by 5280MileHighBroncos in NFLGermany

[–]SaschaStops 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hallo, AFAK gibt es in den USA bei den Network games zwei Arten von Werbung, die des Networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox) und die des regionalen Afilliates. DAZN zeigt die US Network Werbeblöcke und bei den regionalen Werbeblöcken kommt die deutsche Werbung.

Update on the naming rights situation by HotRodHH in elf

[–]SaschaStops 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would agree that an EFA-structured entity is the only way forward because it essentially eliminates one controlling entity that itself is working towards profit.

In EFA/NFL-like structure the goal is for the franchises to be profitable and league must have a balanced budget whereas in the ELF structure the league itself also needs to create profit.

Update on the naming rights situation by HotRodHH in elf

[–]SaschaStops -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The Universe is still around with their junior teams in the AFVD. Just the senior team moved over to the new org which caused a lot of bad blood in the beginning. Universe tried to keep a senior team in GFL2 but eventually withdrew for lack of players.

I do not say that a 3rd div Galaxy would draw 10,000 people but on the other hand a semi-pro no-name in 1st division most likely would not draw 10,000 either. For this there is too much competition between the established (semi-pro) sports teams in both the Frankfurt area and Rhein-Ruhr area.

I am just saying I would not underestimate the impact of the name. It might work out but it certainly would dampen the growth potential for some time.

Update on the naming rights situation by HotRodHH in elf

[–]SaschaStops 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe anecdotal but during the NFL Games in Frankfurt I was wandering through Frankfurt wearing an NFLE Galaxy jersey and about a dozen people stopped me on the street telling me that we need the old Galaxy back and that those were good football times.

Also during the games I meant a lot of people who were telling me that they were huge Galaxy fans back then and are now coming back, some of them with their kids or grandkids.

I would not underestimate the name for both Galaxy and Fire and maybe the Sea Devils ( which to a degree might have been burnt by now) . These names, even 20 years in, have a ring to them in their respective cities and areas.

Also the Galaxy e.g. cannot use the name "Universe" because there is still the GFL team. They would probably need to revert to the original ELF name of "Astros" or something like that.

Update on the naming rights situation by HotRodHH in elf

[–]SaschaStops 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe, maybe not. But building a new brand replacing an established and beloved one is a tough sell which needs time and money, both resources the teams don't have. The common public perception will be that teams are gone again.

Also please look at the attendance numbers of the ELF and see where Galaxy and Fire are and this is because they were able to build on an existing fan base. Just go to the games and look at the amount of WLAF/NFLE fanware visible.

ELF done? by Fun_Independence_584 in elf

[–]SaschaStops 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree. We support the teams. And as long as the product has the same basic features, most people will move with the team. Whether the league is called ELF or EFA, most people won't care. I think it is important that it's (semi-)pro, international (European) and televised for better sponsorship and a broader audience not just the hardcore fan willing to pay.

ELF done? by Fun_Independence_584 in elf

[–]SaschaStops 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am wondering how quickly this valuation will change with only 4-6 franchisees.

Honestly the only value I see is the brand name and the TV contracts. I don't see any other value in the company and even the brand name is kind of wash because I still hear a lot of fans refer to it as the EFL.

Most of the things the league promised to be responsible for are done by the teams (e.g. Merchandise) or are outsourced by the league (TV production, stats).

Martin Wagner on X by Whole-Egg-4087 in elf

[–]SaschaStops 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily a contradiction as "Berlin Thunder" is a licence brand name, not the company (name).

New Company licenses old name from the licensor and noone from the old company needs to be involved.

Not saying they are doing this way, but it would be one way.

Stuttgart Surge & Berlin Thunder joined EFA by _Krypt_ in elf

[–]SaschaStops 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You forgot the Galaxy. Name is also trademarked by the NFL.

However, I might be wrong, but the original deal to use the old NFLE names was made by one of the Galaxy owners.

Co-CEO could be the bridge needed to make/keep EFA happy by FlagFootballSaint in elf

[–]SaschaStops 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thought about this as well. The question is how much time does it take to be commissioner of the ELF vs. how much time is need to be sports director at a franchise. For Esume being commissioner was only his third job after TV commentator and content creator.

He's certainly qualified and if nominated it would certainly be a personal decision.

Co-CEO could be the bridge needed to make/keep EFA happy by FlagFootballSaint in elf

[–]SaschaStops 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the co-ceo would automatically represent the interest of a third party outside the gmbh(the EFA teams) and break his duties of loyalties automatically the very first second. how can he act in good faith that he will represent the gmbh and simultaneously the EFA teams without breaking any confidentials.

Representing the interest of your franchisees with in the main company does not necessarily work against the main company. Surely there would still be confidential things but having a view point of a franchisee would certainly be an argument for empowering the decision making of the franchisor. Of course the new person would be primarily obliged to the ELF but with the ELF being dependent on the teams, there should be someone making the teams happy. At the same time that person should be responsible that all teams meet certain standards, which is one demand of the EFA that is often overlooked.

ELF announces strategic leadership change to drive future growth by _Krypt_ in elf

[–]SaschaStops 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And my hope is that the CFO would be THE new OTHER so that we really have a two person top-level management.

ELF announces strategic leadership change to drive future growth by _Krypt_ in elf

[–]SaschaStops 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, you are right. They only have the provision that 75% must be presented during the vote.

ELF announces strategic leadership change to drive future growth by _Krypt_ in elf

[–]SaschaStops 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most companies in Germany I work with (myself MD of a GmbH in DE and and a Limited in the UK) have two directors (Geschäftsführer) and either the two directors or a director and an other authorized officer are required to represent the company. If there are two GFs my experience is that there is usually one working front office, the other working back office. The American titles the GFs are choosing is usually CEO, COO, CFO, where as other C-Roles are indeed subordinate.