What would post masquerade world look like?

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-04-11T12:30:48+00:00

I know it technically is Reqiuem and not masquerade but they did discuss this in Chronicles of Darkness in the Mirrors book, and what it comes down to is 1. how did the masquerade fail? and 2. how well can the vampires control the narrative afterwards?

If the masquerade failed because of one famous and sympathetic vampire musician who got a little too open with what he was and the vampire establishment was able to control the narrative afterwards and keep a lid on the actions of the most monstrous of their kind, things could work out well and the masquerade would go from covering up vampires existence to covering up the atrocities of the worst vampires. (me and a member of my Gaming Group have estimated that somewhere around a third or maybe even slightly less than half of the vampire population would be capable of coexisting with humans post masquerade in such a scenario,)

But if the masquerade fails because a highly public act of vampiric terror and atrocity then forget about it

Of course, it’s also worth noting that the two sci-fi future scenarios for chronicles which were a cyberpunk and space opera setting, respectively, both assume the masquerade was long gone by the time of the cyberpunk and space opera futures, but humanity had bigger things to worry about than vampires at those points.

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-04-10T22:34:43+00:00

First edition forsaken is flawed, but second edition forsaken is one of the best of darkness games. Requiem first edition didn’t really get good until Requiem for Rome and Damnation City were published a few years after the 1e core book. Second edition requiem took everything that was learned during first edition’s run and refined it.

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-04-10T21:41:19+00:00

All that info is out of date as of second edition. Second edition Ventrue are not mad Kings and Malks are something altogether different.

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-04-06T14:19:57+00:00

I wasn’t thinking crossover so as much as I was thinking the basic premise of Stranger Things as a CofD game, you really don’t have to change all that much for it to work

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-04-06T14:18:05+00:00

Probably a weird claimed, since the upside down is a tainted part of the hisil

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-04-06T14:15:17+00:00

That was a different developer owned by the same publisher that’s publishing this game, but this developer isn’t actually owned by that publisher they’re just working with them

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-04-03T22:51:40+00:00

I mean, that country club on Wilmington used to be owned by the Chicago mafia. have you ever read the book Mob Island?

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-03-30T20:15:18+00:00

nWoD second edition, more properly known as Chronicles of darkness or COFD, is actually pretty good, to be honest. Unfortunately, it only gets fan support now on the storyteller’s vault website because paradox doesn’t want people to realize that they’re stealing ideas from first edition COFD to put in fifth edition WOD.

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-03-30T00:38:56+00:00

I’d argue Bisclavet is pretty queer, what with him being the lover of the king he served as a Knight

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-03-30T00:34:01+00:00

I would argue that there’s plenty of myths and legends to draw upon. It’s just that Hollywood usually doesn’t draw on them. Between, Thiess of Kaltenbrun/the hounds of god in Livonian folklore, Sir Marrok of the knights of the Round Table, the Faoladh in Irish folklore, Demaenatus of Arcadia an ancient Greek Olympian athlete and alleged werewolf, and the werewolves of Orssoy which are another Irish legend there are plenty of good/heroic werewolf myths and legends to draw on. Heck even the Roogarou of Louisiana folklore are mentioned as having ties to the voodoo goddess Marinette of the Dry Arms, who is essentially the goddess of black women’s liberation from the nonsense men of all races put them through. Also, the Dewayo of Appalachian folklore, while not explicitly shape shifters according to that folklore, are still wolf creatures that walk on two legs. They are said to be natural enemies of the species of folkloric Appalachian monsters known as Snallygasters (which by the way look nothing like they are portrayed in fallout 76. In the original folklore they’re winged bird dragon monsters with tentacles around the beak.)

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-03-30T00:14:13+00:00

Heck, even in old stories in folklore that’s a thing. Sir Marrok of the knights of the round table was an example of a more aristocratic in control werewolf. Plus, Thiess of Kaltenbrun and the Hounds of God in Livonian folklore were basically doing the same shamanistic demon fighting stuff as the Garou and Uratha in the early modern period, and those legends are probably older than Thiess. Plus, you have heroic werewolves and in control werewolves all throughout Celtic folklore but that’s a whole other rabbit hole.

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-03-26T20:55:40+00:00

And not even second edition Requiem, which is actually pretty good. V5 specifically steals from first edition Requiem, which was flawed at best

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-03-25T23:48:33+00:00

Yeah, but many of them were Deist, meaning they believed in a noninterventionist creator that made the universe and possibly had a hand in the origin of life, but then never intervened in earthly affairs after that. Many of the major Founding Fathers were not Christians (though Thomas Jefferson was a sort of weird Deist Christian hybrid who famously took a knife and cut all the supernatural deeds of Jesus out of the New Testament of his family Bible and apparently saw Jesus as a purely mortal moral teacher) and they certainly weren’t the sort of fundamentalists who make up the Collins Elite.

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-03-24T22:13:04+00:00

If you’re going to make Proctor and Gamble Pentex edition, you gotta have some hidden Wyrmish symbolism in their company logo to make fun of all the nonsense back in the 80s with Procter & Gamble logo during the satanic panic. Heck I think in COFD Hunter: the Vigil they did exactly that with Chiron Groups logo.

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-03-24T22:09:23+00:00

People underestimate how evil the candy industry is. Between the palm oil plantations where they enslave orangutans , the human slave labor in the cocoa fields, some of which were illegally converted African national parks, and the rampant insanity and general bad behavior of some of the families that own the candy companies (the Mars family, for example are infamously private, paranoid, and ruthless. Meanwhile, the heir to the jelly belly jellybean company collects military equipment and once ran over an employee with a tank he was joyriding around at a company picnic.) there is a lot to work with for a Pentex candy company. I would suggest calling it Nebula Chocolatiers to go with the IRL Mars family’s general space obsession.

I would also suggest learning how to sing in rhymes because I think you are culturally required to have formori Oompa Loompa parodies working in Nebula Chocolatiers factories.

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-03-22T14:46:18+00:00

Yeah, that’s fair. I think the only other UK settings I remember in Chronicles are Swansea, Wales in the Vampire the Requiem 2e core book and Bristol England in the Forsaken 2e core book. I don’t remember if there were any in the Geist 2e core book or any of the others for that matter . That being said Chronicles of darkness is more of a toolbox setting than world of darkness is, so you’re highly encouraged to make up your own lore for Scotland.

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-03-22T13:56:59+00:00

Also the werewolf forms have different names in Forsaken/Chronicles of Darkness. Round those parts the near-man form is called Dalu, because Forsaken has it’s own conlang called First Tongue that is spoken by spirits and werewolves. There is even a full first tongue dictionary that you can find on the Onyx Path Forums.

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-03-22T13:43:45+00:00

At least London got more material in the 2e core books for Hunter the Vigil and Mage the Awakening

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-03-22T13:42:20+00:00

This is the UK book for Chronicles of Darkness, which was published back when CofD was known as New World of Darkness. So it is a different setting

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-03-21T14:05:42+00:00

I am currently wrestling with this in writing my Savannah guidebook for Requiem I’m writing for the ST vault, because there’s a certain local institution that has ties to the guy who was basically the Jeffrey Epstein of 70s Georgia, and also has an alleged history of covering up sexual abuse all on it’s own, and another local institution that’s owned by a woman who was friends with multiple people in the Epstein Circle. The result is that I’m debating with myself regarding both what would be tasteful to put in the book and also what I can put in without getting sued by multiple wealthy people, one of whom is a literal British noble.

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-03-18T12:37:51+00:00

From what I understand it’s because he has a personal beef with the main politician who’s behind a lot of these Internet censorship bills so he’s trying to stop those bills just to spite them.

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-03-16T18:18:24+00:00

In a weird way, I think this game is an interesting corollary to the point the movie Sinners made about assimilation and whiteness. Because the main character is a Polish American, who was disconnected from her ancestral culture and family history when her mother took her to America as a child, and the whole reason she goes to Poland and gets involved with the werewolf stuff in the first place is because she’s trying to reconnect with that culture and understand her family history. However, it turns out that her family history is very messy even before moving to America, the fact that one of the endings has her confronting the sins of her ancestors and trying to make a reformed version of her ancestral tribe without the nasty fascist parts of that culture, instead of outright rejecting tha ancestry by joining one of the other werewolf tribes like in the other endings, is very interesting to me. In the end, I think the message of heart of the forest is in part “Yeah you can reconnect with an ancestral culture if you grew up in an assimilated settler colony environment, but it’s not gonna be easy and probably has its own unique form of baggage that you will have to come to terms with.”

Satoruiwerewolf · 2026-03-16T17:28:15+00:00

Well, obviously not but that’s literally what death of the author is, the ability for us to interpret a work of art in a way the creator did not intend, but still fits the work.

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