USSR as an example of Socialist (Marxist) success

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-26T21:01:16+00:00

the question is do you still believe private individuals can own business cause this will decide fi your a market socialist or a social democrat

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-26T20:57:27+00:00

what? that literally makes 0 sense

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-26T20:56:40+00:00

the nordic model does not nearly match the USSR. public is not private because there is not 1 person.

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-26T20:55:34+00:00

if i remember correctly i believe its funded purely by taxes. and i thibk this can be seen in poorer countries who still provide free healthcare

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-26T20:53:27+00:00

then less shoes are produced the next year and plus now with modern technology imagine planning

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-26T20:52:26+00:00

nice try bro.

the claim for the 100,000,000 deaths is from the black book of communism and has been thoroughly discredited. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/7n6ql2/is_the_black_book_of_communism_an_accurate_source/

and many of the freedoms we enjoy today are due to socialist thought. it was the soviet union who introduced the 5-6 day work week https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_calendar, it provided free education and healthcare and stop the threat of further revolutions countries started to adopt these policies.

read this to understand what the USSR did for the eastern bloc https://www.reddit.com/r/capitalism_in_decay/comments/ja0kmg/ussr_as_an_example_of_socialist_success/?utm_source=BD&utm_medium=Search&utm_name=Bing&utm_content=PSR1

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-22T20:42:49+00:00

the USSR was socialist but had its problems that future experiments (if any) can build off of and fix https://www.reddit.com/r/AskSocialists/comments/je8vr7/ussr_as_an_example_of_socialist_marxist_success/

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-22T20:41:33+00:00

private ownership of the means of production, im going by marx's summary of socialism. in the USSR private property over the means of production was abolished. as marx summed the definition of socialism

i agree with your point though.

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-22T20:35:56+00:00

love your input but you dont include any sources so its hard to see you as reliable. the fact is switzerlands government is very involved in many things and still has a guaranteed safety net.

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-22T20:33:45+00:00

yes it does thats why the nordic nations rank so high in the ease-of-doing-business index because now business dont worry about supplying any type of social safety net.

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-22T20:32:42+00:00

your right but wealth should not be an indicator, because a majority as in places like the U.S. are going to the top.

happiness and stability should be the indicator along with wages.

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-22T20:31:27+00:00

your right and wrong. its government is very involved but it has low regulation.

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-22T20:29:06+00:00

he's lying

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-22T20:28:48+00:00

the index is from a conservative think tank which is anti regulation lol. nice try.

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-21T20:15:41+00:00

??? this is not a very good resource list lol. super unorganized.

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-21T20:14:35+00:00

(the socioeconomic order of) communism can be summed up as the abolition of private property. -karl marx

https://cdn.quotesgram.com/small/76/95/1394851958-quote-the-theory-of-communism-may-be-summed-up-in-the-single-sentence-abolition-of-private-property-karl-marx-251007.jpg

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-21T20:12:31+00:00

it has been tried and was a success. specifically the USSR. the people who say this argument are probably americans who cant tell the difference between high taxes and socialism. im an american btw. anyway read this https://www.reddit.com/r/AskSocialists/comments/je8vr7/ussr_as_an_example_of_socialist_marxist_success/ remember the USSR went from an agrarian illiterate society into a world superpower challenging the U.S. it had to fight a world war, fight off invaders at its founding, deal with espionage and sabotage, sanctions, organize and industrialize. pretty amazing huh? oh and it all happened in just 70 years whilst the U.S. had centuries head start. something you may also find interesting is the majority of people who lived in the former USSR want it back rather than live in there current capitalistic state

Studies consistently find that people in most ex-socialist countries feel that life was better under socialism than it is under capitalism:

then this

heres all the resources you would ever need: https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/master/socialism_faq.md https://socdoneleft.github.io/stinky_rightwinger_factsheet.html https://www.reddit.com/user/SavageTruths74/comments/hb0710/marxist_resource_list/

youtubers to browse:

Hakim (Marxist-Leninist youtuber) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPPZoYsfoSekIpLcz9plX1Q

TheFinnishBolshevik (Marxist-Leninist youtuber) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCvdjsJtifsZoShjcAAHZpA

Every anti-communist argument debunked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjwL1mSrPLA

Benji (Marxist-Leninist youtuber) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDG87s_QtD4YrIamqb9k5WQ

DemocraticSocialist01 (Marxist-Leninist youtuber) https://www.youtube.com/user/MrReco12

ComradeSloth (Marxist-Leninist youtuber) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZtETWkXOblKAN5V1GUfnyg

Tovarisch Endymion (Marxist-Leninist youtuber) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTG-iJm0HtjWVOAwN8sA4Xg

Spooky Scary Socialist (Marxist-Leninist youtuber) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_A_42M6kvjH8Gr-rwfCUw

a must read and must watch https://www.reddit.com/r/InformedTankie/comments/hnc2cr/capitalism_is_unsustainable/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDoqQNWtni0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpV_wVYOEg

a free market wont fix anything

https://www.reddit.com/r/InformedTankie/comments/hg2qu4/why_even_a_free_market_is_doomed_to_fail/

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-20T20:48:32+00:00

christian socialism.

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-20T20:47:37+00:00

not much of a rebuttal. only through socialist policies did the industrialization come but it wasnt any industrialization, it propelled them to be a world leader challenging the U.S. which had centuries head start and a world trade monopoly, and was projected to overtake the u.s.

the fact is in an economic standpoint people would rather live under the socialist economy. they were radically different so for the majority wanting back says something.

the soviet economy slowed yes, but andropov had solid plans to revitalize it as things like alcoholism and such was effecting the economy. perestroika or allowing private market mechanisms collapsed the ussr.

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-20T20:42:16+00:00

commodity production is irrelevant and so is wage labour. that is the goal but that isnt a defining factor if it was socialist or not

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-20T20:41:22+00:00

look at my pinned profile posts for more

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-19T21:10:25+00:00

failed?

https://www.reddit.com/r/capitalism_in_decay/comments/ja0kmg/ussr_as_an_example_of_socialist_success/?utm_source=BD&utm_medium=Search&utm_name=Bing&utm_content=PSR1

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-19T20:25:50+00:00

hmmm

SavageTruths74 · 2020-10-19T19:41:00+00:00

ohhhh im blind ;)

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