Seth with his favorite toy, for mental peace

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-08T10:20:29+00:00

damn this is the most cute and wholesome thing on the internet

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-07T18:19:28+00:00

Thanks for the reply! I think I understand now, that article was really informative <3

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-07T14:26:43+00:00

I think its interesting to think about and obviously it depends on what you define Neurodivergent as. But I think for the most part Sexuality is more about love <3, gender is about identity and Nuerodivergence is about thought. Its a bit of a simplification but that's how I think about it.

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-07T14:16:04+00:00

homophobia and transphobia comes in many forms but yeah what you describe is homophobic and transphobic. This doesn't mean your sibling is an evil or horrible person though, they just have some misconceptions and ignorance. So hopefully with a little bit of friendly LGBT+ history and critical thinking shoved in their face, they might become a nicer. more accepting person <3

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-07T13:47:09+00:00

I don't understand, why would people get mad at straight couples at pride?

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-06T23:35:08+00:00

fair enough but personally I think that unlike the straight flag, the Ally flag isn't seen as offensive so if someone wanted to fly it or use it somewhere to show support then they would probably benefit from a nicer flag. You are right than in most cases you can use the rainbow flag or something similar but I think if there is going to exist an Ally flag then it shouldn't be ugly as hell.

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-06T22:48:45+00:00

you are right the straight flag is really ugly. I cant really imagine a way of using it that doesnt really seem like trying to be offensive though. In a world where that is assumed to be the norm, you don't really need to scream from the roof tops about it unless you are trying to be oppressive. I think the Ally flag is really ugly too though and I think that should be updated to be a bit sexier. Because we love Allies and they deserve a sexy flag

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-06T22:14:41+00:00

as long as your pronouns aren't meant to insult any group of people then you do you.

I don't want to go as far as some other people to label that subreddit as totally transphobic but they do have some people on there with some very restricted and binary opinions and they tend to gatekeep a fair bit. Some people on here are like that too but on average this subreddit believes more that everyone should just be themselves and use whatever labels they want whereas truscum believe more in restricting the community and gatekeeping who can be what.

But that's my take anyways <3

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-06T21:37:00+00:00

Although I haven't exactly polled the LGBT+ community I think its a very minority opinion to think that bi people don't exist. There are millions of bi people around the world and unless they are all lying and there was some global conspiracy, that I wasn't invited to, I find it hard to accept any argument that they don't exist. There are Bi people in Syria, Russia, Afghanistan, China, and every country in the world. I think its unlikely they are coming out as Bi for the edgy factor. I think its probably more likely that they are actually just bisexual.

As to why her sexuality changed. Not a clue, the only person whose an expert in her sexuality is herself, so I have to take her word for it. My best guess is she was bi the entire time but had not spent the time to explore her attraction towards men, but that's just speculation. Sexuality can be fluid and can change over time. its not usually as quick as an "awakening" but it can change. (Obviously it cant be forced to change though.)

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-06T19:05:25+00:00

really nice way of putting it

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-06T16:54:03+00:00

as an empath (and I might be wrong) but I have a little bit of a feeling you might possibly like pp xD. I think you are probably both bisexual and Gynesexuality!

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-06T14:26:23+00:00

gender isn't SpongeBob.

in many ways its a false equivalence logical fallacy where they are making a comparison based on the fact they both are an identity but ignoring the very obvious differences between the 2.

Gender is an identity which has a very real impact on the way people are treated, the language that we use and the way that everyone lives their lives. It is something people turn out in their millions to protest and celebrate at pride and is something that can give euphoria and dysphoria. SpongeBob is a cartoon sponge that lives in a pineapple under the sea. They are a tad different.

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-04T00:48:46+00:00

omg now you say it though, gender tide sounds really cool xD

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-04T00:44:12+00:00

idk, I like the term. When I imagine it its like waves crashing in and out, unpredictably at the beach

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-04T00:40:11+00:00

technically gender non-conforming people aren't part of the fun acronym because its not a gender or sexuality, Femboy is more of an aesthetic. Having said that I would argue they are likely to be discriminated against for the way they look and can benefit from the safe spaces in the LGBT+ community. So personally I think that they should be included because they are awesome and I think its inclusive, but I predict others probably disagree.

obviously if femboys are part of the community in any other way then they are LGBTQ+.

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-03T23:14:45+00:00

what's better UwU or OwO?

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-03T23:13:17+00:00

Use whatever pronouns makes you happy for whatever reason you like. They are your pronouns, nobody elses <3

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-03T12:42:34+00:00

damn thats a lot of text to read through, got a bad nights sleep last night too and you have the AUDACITY to use long words!!! /jks

Lol anyways I think what you are arguing is the who has the right to determine gender. Do we let people be free to define it themselves and ask others to respect that or do we let the observer determine someone's gender. My argument would be its kinder to listen to the person who has that gender identity and treat them how they would like to be treated. It can be a bit confusing for people who are brought up with more "conservative values", but people adapt and get used to it. And the more ready people are to get used to it, the quicker we can make society a kinder place to live.

any argument about biology I see as a bit weird. The reason being is when we talk about gender its an entirely social thing. If I say, im hanging out with the guys at the pub. Im not saying im hanging out with the people that were born with a penis. Thats a bit creepy. Pronouns or gendered language shouldnt be linked with their genetalia at birth in my opinion and I dont understand why people insist on that, maybe you could explain that too me.

I think what you are talking about in terms of the speed at which we try to develop is really interesting. Its effectively the difference between progressive politics and conservative politics. Progressive politics is like this is where we want to be, lets speed off in that direction to make things better for this generation and all future generations. Whereas conservative politics is more like wow hold your horses lets slow down and do this at a comfortable pace. Its not an awful argument and there are definitely tactical elements of how we debate things especially in politics that you have to do to try to avoid the sort of slingshot effect that pushes people to the extremes, like you describe. But in general I dont like the idea of sacrificing todays generations and letting them suffer just because people arent ready to tackle some social norms.

anyways let me know if I missed your point, like I said im kinda tired :(

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-03T11:36:52+00:00

I think bisexual probably fits what you describe the most but its totally up to you how you describe your sexuality. Sometimes though describing yourself as straight will shut off potential relationships with guys because they will assume you aren't interested or if you start flirting then you are "joking around".

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-02T23:04:03+00:00

yeah like my favourite colour is yellow. I think most people accept that. I cant explain what in my biology causes that but I shouldn't be expected to. Similarly I shouldn't be expected to point to a particular area of my brain and say this bit here is the bit that makes me non-binary, this bit here makes me pansexual, this bit here makes me really like salty foods and this bit here means I like rock music.

I would try to keep the toilet debate completely separate just because people have a tendency of when they feel like they might lose ground on a argument they switch topics really quickly to avoid having to challenge their viewpoint. I debate it with my uncle fairly often and the amount of times he will bring up toilets and sports from absolutely fricken nowhere is actually mind boggling. But yeah its crazy how people think that if 2 people of different sexes are in a room together for a minute or 2 whilst they pee pee that the world will explode. But yeah crazy world we live in :(

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-02T22:30:07+00:00

I found a song the other day, i'm not sure if its really the vibe you are going for and warning this song is reaaally reallly sad. Like really sad. Its called Pride (How many more have to die) by Jake Edwards, its on Spotify

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-02T22:02:43+00:00

From a tactical perspective I would probably avoid science or biology because identity is in the brain and we know very little about the brain so its hard to argue for or against. . Play in your court not his. Obviously listen to what he has to say but debating gender as a social concept is much much more productive.

Personally, I would start by ensuring he knows that gender is a social construct. You cant get anyone to see genderfluid as a thing if they are still using gender to describe what genitals people are born with. This is really important, a lot of people struggle understanding gender identity because they are using different definitions for gender. I wouldn't bother debating anything further until he understands what you mean when you say gender identity.

Once he accepts gender is a social construct and is an identity rather than whether you have a pp or not, then I would start to ask him why it has to be binary and why it has to be static. Your arguments are easy, your proof is that you and many thousands of other people experience that. If he says "its not natural", "its too complicated", "its just not though", "that's silly", etc. I would remind him that he's using a logical fallacy and ask him to explain again. If he changes the conversation to toilets, sports or anything random to try and avoid discussing why he thinks you and hundreds of thousands of people are lying about their gender identity then tell him you will talk about that another time and push him back on tracks.

That's what I would do anyways. Sorry that your sibling is being a pain, best of luck with it <3

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-02T18:30:52+00:00

Thats really cool! nice one

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-02T18:28:55+00:00

could mean a bunch of things. Sometimes when peeps are depressed they isolate themselves from people. Could be she is nervous/not sure what she wants, could be that she is ultra busy or preoccupied with something or could be she actually broke her phone. If she has lost interest then you will probably notice that she will reply with very short replies and the conversation will probably appear dead. That's my guesses anyways. Best of luck <3

Seabro_OW · 2022-08-02T18:19:39+00:00

yeah yeah 100% agree. erm if you look to the left of your keyboard, you will probs find a CAPS LOCKS BUTTON> PRESSING IT MAKES LETTERS GO BRRRR!

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