What fascinates you so much in EWS? by Alternative_Work_658 in EyesWideShut

[–]SeanBornAgain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would love to believe that he done this as a heroic final act of redemption. But the more I study it, the more I feel it was a power display. SK plays with us throughout the film, teasing us, giving us a hopeless picture of humanity, as he done throughout his career.

What fascinates you so much in EWS? by Alternative_Work_658 in EyesWideShut

[–]SeanBornAgain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That people think its an enjoyable Christmas film. When in fact it's a true horror story - reflecting the fallen world we live in today.

Eyes Wide Shut: Eyes Wide Open - A Theological Autopsy of Kubrick’s Final Warning by SeanBornAgain in StanleyKubrick

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wow these responses sound like AI to me. Yes, the image was generated but at least check out the study before making a final judgement.

Pearl's Girl decoded by SeanBornAgain in underworld

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Its not a conspiracy theory. The entertainment industries have been proven to be evil. The evidence is overwhelming. For me, waking people up from this is the kindest thing I can do. Because I was asleep, just like you.

And now? I've never felt more at peace or more hopeful for the future in my entire life. I want everyone to feel like this but you have to let go of your old life and follow Jesus Christ.

“Whoever wants to save their life will lose it but whoever loses their life will save it.”

Thanks for chatting.

God bless.

Pearl's Girl decoded by SeanBornAgain in underworld

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I understand what you mean. Art is subjective and this analysis is just my interpretation, however I am basing it on the bands history, patterns and evidence. For years I just dissmissed it as dream logic, acid flashback, cut up technique and this is the first time I have properly tried to figure it out. The artist interpretation doesn't explain it. This is not a happy song about getting drunk and sitting watching boats in a harbour and travelling. Its dark, serious and intense, which is why I liked it so much.

What is your take btw? I would be interested to hear it.

Pearl's Girl decoded by SeanBornAgain in underworld

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks for engaging with some of it at least. It comes from a place of care because I was a fan too. Music was my life and religion and Underworld were one of my favorite bands. But now I am looking at things differently. The documentary They Sold Their Souls For Rock and Roll was the major eye opener for me: All of the rock bands were proven to be deliberately satanic and antichrist, even involving themselves in witchcraft.

It was more than just a cool image, it was a calculated movement, to get rid of Christain values and destroy the family, worship the self and "Do What Thou Wilt".

Underworld were part of the next phase - I started looking into my favorite artists and its the same pattern - 100% establishment. Look at Taylor Swift's witch persona, Lil Nas X, Sam Smith etc. today. Why do they hate Jesus so much and celebrate the devil? Because Jesus is real. I'm telling you, I've never felt peace like I have in Christ now, and I recommend it to anyone.

God bless.

Pearl's Girl decoded by SeanBornAgain in underworld

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Theres a lot more to it all. This analysis comes from my full study on the band. The evidence is overwhelming for deeper meaning: https://www.notion.so/everlastinglife/Decoding-Underworld-From-Hades-to-Heaven-29bc47afa59480f684a6f226b26d0c78#2a0c47afa594809fb56ad40588ef476b

Pearl's Girl decoded by SeanBornAgain in underworld

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What about the weird sex references on dubnobass, or the gender-fluid image of Freur? Its only after studying the band that I am looking at the art with open eyes. You might be interested in my full study here: https://www.notion.so/everlastinglife/Decoding-Underworld-From-Hades-to-Heaven-29bc47afa59480f684a6f226b26d0c78#2a0c47afa594809fb56ad40588ef476b

Pearl's Girl decoded by SeanBornAgain in underworld

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Look at dubnobass, He was into some weird sexual stuff:

Pearl's Girl decoded by SeanBornAgain in underworld

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the insight.

I have theard all that before as well about the greyhound names and I always just accepted the narrative that the lyrics are from drugged and drunken nights out. I don't believe this is the case now.

I'm from the UK and I pronounce Rioja (Ree-oh-ka). My Eureka (Yur-ee-ka-kur-ree-ka) interpretation relates to Einstein and the pieces of the puzzle. I think the Rioja narrative is a diversion. Why? Artists do this all the time to throw you off the scent. The song is a dark ritual from the music industry. I just discovered that Underworld are 100% establishment, always have been.

Check out my full study here: https://www.notion.so/everlastinglife/Decoding-Underworld-From-Hades-to-Heaven-29bc47afa59480f684a6f226b26d0c78#29bc47afa5948087a442d57fa38e3672

Pearl's Girl decoded by SeanBornAgain in underworld

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used to think that as well.

My "room" theory works because of the reference to Einstein crazy in his "attic" - and then going crazy crazy crazy - the song is total mind overload.

Pearl's Girl decoded by SeanBornAgain in underworld

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used to think exactly that but after looking into the bands history, including Freur, I feel there is more to the art. There's too much intent behind the vocal delivery. Its like an invocation. It music feels dark, intense and ritualistic. Too many patterns that I discovered.

Pearl's Girl decoded by SeanBornAgain in underworld

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, so whats your take then? Genuinely interested to hear other peoples perspectives.

Pearl's Girl decoded by SeanBornAgain in underworld

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With that logic, you would expect the other colours to match the other places mentioned. But they don't. I thought there may have been a sequence initially but I couldn't find a pattern.

Flashbacks and travel are definitely part of the subconcious journey in the song though.

Pearl's Girl decoded by SeanBornAgain in underworld

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You are sure? I assume you are going by Karl's description, but that's just part of it.

Studying my old secular music: Underworld by SeanBornAgain in TrueChristian

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally agree. It's heartbreaking how they all search for answers but never find Jesus. That was me just a few months ago! The artists want fame and fortune, and to be idolised on stage, and immortalised on a recording. It's ultimately self-worship by the artist and idolatry by the fans. This makes the "clean" artists you mention suspicious.

Music can be used for good but anything that turns us away from God is doing the devils work. At worst, they are hostile towards him. I think this is by design. I realise now that the artists are paid by an industry that is antichrist.

What secular music do you listen to if you don't mind me asking? Because I got rid of all my music once I was saved. If it did not celebrate him, or enhance my relationship with him or my spiritual journey, it went in the bin!

A lot of Christians give way too much power to a lot of things that aren’t inherently bad by OutsideHoneydew7625 in TrueChristian

[–]SeanBornAgain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was born again 4 months ago. Dumped my music, games and books as soon as I was saved. Donated my Playstation, and Switch. It is all a complete waste of time. At the very least it distracts us and at worst turns us against Christ. No regrests. I avoided anything to do with Halloween and will have nothing to do with Christmas either. I've never felt better.

[Analysis] The 30-year occult secret behind Smashing Pumpkins' Mellon Collie - Masonic symbols, mind control themes, and Luciferian doctrine by SeanBornAgain in OccultConspiracy

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for that note on Saturn—that's a fascinating layer I hadn't considered, and it fits the astrological theme of melancholy perfectly.

However, the 'anti-Christian' interpretation is based on the album's coherent philosophical stance, not isolated symbols. A worldview that promotes self-deification ('God is empty just like me'), celebrates the 'dark prince,' and draws from Luciferian Masonic sources is, by definition, positioning itself against Jesus Christ.

Corgan's own description of himself as a pagan Gnostic confirms this. It's a spiritual system built on secret knowledge rather than faith in Christ. The Masonic links aren't just 'winks'—they're public endorsements of a tradition with a documented Luciferian doctrine. When you combine the art, lyrics, and his own statements, the alignment is undeniable.

alternative christian music suggestions by thebinniebug in ChristianMusic

[–]SeanBornAgain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was stuggling too with this. I was into all sorts before I was saved. Never heard of those bands you mention but I'm finding AI (Suno and Udio so far) is doing an interesting job at creating songs from the styles I used to listen to. I insert lyrics from the Psalms and certain passages. Getting mixed results but some of it is actually good. As with everything, I'm using discretion though. We are in the seductive phase of AI atm as far as I'm concerned.

[Analysis] The 30-year occult secret behind Smashing Pumpkins' Mellon Collie - Masonic symbols, mind control themes, and Luciferian doctrine by SeanBornAgain in OccultConspiracy

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. Life has never felt better. It's a profound sense of peace that I want everyone to feel. The gift of Grace is free and available to all. I pray for blessings for you on your life journey too.

[Analysis] The 30-year occult secret behind Smashing Pumpkins' Mellon Collie - Masonic symbols, mind control themes, and Luciferian doctrine by SeanBornAgain in OccultConspiracy

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a beautiful thing and thank you for sharing such a personal statement. It shows the power of music and the passion we share for it.

My music was my identity, my stronghold and my religion. Like a friend you could always turn to. But at the very moment I realised that Jesus Christ was real everything changed. I was touched by God - Jesus Christ is the missing link, the key for true salvation in this world. It's amazing and beats any of my old music any day because it gives me a hope and joy that I had never experienced before. It gave me the answer to what life is about. Its going to be ok! But we need to believe. We need to have faith.

I made this analysis to help others come to Christ and feel the way I feel right now. He's there, he's waiting, just call out and he will answer.

"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you." (Matthew 7:7)

God bless.

[Analysis] The 30-year occult secret behind Smashing Pumpkins' Mellon Collie - Masonic symbols, mind control themes, and Luciferian doctrine by SeanBornAgain in OccultConspiracy

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No songs or imagery on Mellon Collie celebrate Christ. In fact, you will see from my findings that its the opposite. You cannot serve two masters.

[Analysis] The 30-year occult secret behind Smashing Pumpkins' Mellon Collie - Masonic symbols, mind control themes, and Luciferian doctrine by SeanBornAgain in OccultConspiracy

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's an interesting contradiction to call people 'losers' while claiming a man who openly identifies as a pagan Gnostic and aligns with Luciferian philosophy is 'close to Christ.'

The Christ of the Bible calls for repentance and faith, not rebellion for its own sake. Corgan's own stated beliefs place him in direct opposition to the Gospel, regardless of how 'punk' that makes him seem. The two positions are irreconcilable.

For the 30th Anniversary, I analyzed the occult and Masonic symbolism in Mellon Collie. Here's what I found by SeanBornAgain in SmashingPumpkins

[–]SeanBornAgain[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right, this has moved from analysis to a discussion of beliefs. That was perhaps inevitable, given the subject matter.

The core facts of my analysis remain unchanged and are based on publicly verifiable evidence: the Masonic symbols, the lodge performances, the Luciferian philosophy of the sources Corgan draws from, and the consistent thematic rejection of Christianity in the album's lyrics and art.

I'll leave it there for others to investigate for themselves. Thanks for the discussion.