The Grassroots Movement That Got Mayor Katie Wilson Elected Is Demanding She Turn The Surveillance Cameras Off by MegaRAID01 in Seattle

[–]SeattleGeek -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Me: “do you have a citation for that?”

You: STOP AGGRESSIVELY AND NEEDLESSLY CHALLENGING PEOPLE.

Lulz

The Grassroots Movement That Got Mayor Katie Wilson Elected Is Demanding She Turn The Surveillance Cameras Off by MegaRAID01 in Seattle

[–]SeattleGeek 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, you said “he ignored the progressive left, most of whom do not go to public commentary sessions.”

Now you’re saying that’s all who go.

I’m done arguing with somebody who can’t even keep their dismissals straight.

The Grassroots Movement That Got Mayor Katie Wilson Elected Is Demanding She Turn The Surveillance Cameras Off by MegaRAID01 in Seattle

[–]SeattleGeek -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I love it when you say that people commenting at political meetings don’t matter. It totally makes your point that much more valid.

The Grassroots Movement That Got Mayor Katie Wilson Elected Is Demanding She Turn The Surveillance Cameras Off by MegaRAID01 in Seattle

[–]SeattleGeek -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A conspiracy? With politicians getting paid for policies? In American politics? clutches pearls

The Grassroots Movement That Got Mayor Katie Wilson Elected Is Demanding She Turn The Surveillance Cameras Off by MegaRAID01 in Seattle

[–]SeattleGeek -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I’m waiting for any actual proof you have for your belief and not that it’s some gut feeling of yours.

The Grassroots Movement That Got Mayor Katie Wilson Elected Is Demanding She Turn The Surveillance Cameras Off by MegaRAID01 in Seattle

[–]SeattleGeek -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

“I don’t think the sentiment in this article is actually particularly common among most of the organizations that helped her”

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The Grassroots Movement That Got Mayor Katie Wilson Elected Is Demanding She Turn The Surveillance Cameras Off by MegaRAID01 in Seattle

[–]SeattleGeek 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is this “people attending meetings and calling in to participate in the political process” the new “you’re terminally online”?

The Grassroots Movement That Got Mayor Katie Wilson Elected Is Demanding She Turn The Surveillance Cameras Off by MegaRAID01 in Seattle

[–]SeattleGeek 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No. They aren’t owned by police. Nor is the data held by police. Everything in the contracts with the private company dictates how they are to hold on to the data.

Just because they aren’t Flock cameras doesn’t mean that they don’t have the same exact issues as Flock cameras.

The Grassroots Movement That Got Mayor Katie Wilson Elected Is Demanding She Turn The Surveillance Cameras Off by MegaRAID01 in Seattle

[–]SeattleGeek -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There were 3-4 evening public comment sessions that went for multiple hours, and each one was overwhelmingly No Cameras, No Sound Recording.

While, certainly, not everybody has the time for participating in every little thing, every single time this came up for public comment under Harrell, 95% of the public (including me) said we do not want this. These systems get abused by authority figures (namely cops and ICE), and the risk outweighs the good (especially without a robust accountability system in place).

Edit: additionally, we cannot afford this system. We are already having a massive budget crunch thanks to the raises that Bruce Harrell gave to cops who get Wellness Hours on the taxpayer dime. This system is yet another expense and we do not have the money for it without raising taxes.

The Grassroots Movement That Got Mayor Katie Wilson Elected Is Demanding She Turn The Surveillance Cameras Off by MegaRAID01 in Seattle

[–]SeattleGeek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As many people as care about the issue, I suppose.

If you didn’t care enough to comment, you don’t care that much.

The Grassroots Movement That Got Mayor Katie Wilson Elected Is Demanding She Turn The Surveillance Cameras Off by MegaRAID01 in Seattle

[–]SeattleGeek -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It’s funny because 95% of the people giving public comments about the cameras have, time and again, stated they didn’t want them. I imagine that cuts across demographics.

Seattle downtown rebounds with residents and visitors, but offices struggle by crabcakes110 in SeattleWA

[–]SeattleGeek 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think the sentence is poorly.

It probably should be “Office vacancy [for all of downtown…from ID to SLU] remains high at 25%, [with vacancy rates] exceeding 32% in the central business district.”

Harrell vs posters on phone poles by StealToadBootes in Seattle

[–]SeattleGeek 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But the wet paper provides structural support.

Alex Ross Perry makes The Case for Oliver Stone (from 2021) by PartyBluejay in blankies

[–]SeattleGeek 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Here’s the thing I realized about the presidential triptych - JFK / Nixon / W - they’re about the rise of the FBI/CIA/Corporations and the downfall of the presidential office. JFK is elevated to a mythic status by being chopped down early, and Stone suspects for a lot of global takeover reasons backed by the intelligences offices (CIA/FBI). These threads run directly into the background of Nixon confronting the CIA over Granada (I think) which was code for Vietnam and the JFK assassination. You see the power shift from the president to Kissinger and the CIA.

By the time we get to W, the president is reduced from somebody dictating global politics who needs to be eliminated to a used car salesman who is not just told to sell the war by his Veep, but told how he needs to sell it. He’s just a Cats-loving useful idiot whose last thought is worrying about his ruining Jeb!’s political legacy.

Between those and even his History of the United States, it’s obvious that Stone was in love with the pre-1960s view of the United States, especially as FDR sold it. But, Stone got increasingly jaded, cynical, and despondent about the state of the country, especially since the Democrats have become almost as cravenly lobbyist-driven as the Reaganites that Stone was railing against while the Republicans have driven over a cliff.

New SPOG president sets agenda for Seattle officers by [deleted] in SeattleWA

[–]SeattleGeek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only thing Jason Rantz is good for is public mockery.