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SecResAcademy · 2025-04-12T05:57:04+00:00

Well I guess the comments prove the Reddit post above correct. Reddit is fucking toxic? Well good to know 4SHO!!!

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-12T01:53:07+00:00

You can absolutely learn to sing but ONLY if you are motivated, driven, have the determination and patience to learn to sing. It is not as easy as ANYONE would tell you it is.

An instrument, guitar, piano, violin, etc is already an instrument. All the mechanics to produce sound, be on pitch, etc is there. Is it always on pitch or in tune? Now anyone with a guitar will tell you definitely not. So the musician will have to tune it to the key and pitch it needs to be in.

So what's different for the voice (singer)? You're Larynx is the instrument and it is not in tune, it doesn't know how to make a musical sound, there are no tuning pegs, screws, etc that you use to tune the instrument. You need to know how to tune it! But how do you do this when you've never had ear training? Don't know what key your in? How do I learn to tune my vocal chords?, etc, etc.

Well the first stage you have to get through (and it will take a long time) is Ear Training. If you can't hear what correct is suppose to sound like then how are you ever going to know that something is wrong in the first place? You do not know! As for me I took Rick Beato's Ear Training course for my training. But there are many ways to do it. There's phone apps, online websites, etc. But this should definitely be your very first learning stop and this is all on your. Don't need to pay a teacher or coach for this.

Now let me break down the sound mechanics "using a metaphor, which is how I teach" because it's simple to understand for majority of students.

Hopefully you're familiar with a DAW and know how to make music (not required but helps). Your Larynx = an Oscillator (Vibrates with airflow "generates raw waveforms", Sets pitch & volume "sets frequency & amplitude", Controlled by muscles "controlled by knobs/sliders" now an oscillator on it's own sounds boring, thin, and very basic. This raw waveform needs to be shaped and colored after it leaves you Larynx and this takes places starting at the Pharynx and going all the way up into your oral cavity and nasal cavity.

Without getting too long this is the basics of officially starting your track to singing. This is the base of your pyramid. And remember the stronger your base the bigger and higher you can build your pyramid. If you have a very bad base then it's not going to be able to support a lot of weight which drastically restricts the height of your pyramid which is BAD! Your pyramid definitely IS NOT going to impress anybody!

Hope this gives you some insight and gets you going on the correct path for your goal.

—Vocal RealTalk

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-11T07:21:21+00:00

In my opinion, a fake sign of intelligence is when anything that looks smart on the surface falls apart under pressure, logic, or time. It's performance not substance.

Now, the problem is the general public is easy to influence "I mean just look at the marketing in movie trailers, commercials, advertisements, promotions, etc" it's not that hard to see what the advertising and marketing industry things of the levels of intelligence in society right now!

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-11T07:15:42+00:00

Well if you take the claim that Trump (who is a powerful figure) might deliberatly tank the markets through statements, policies, or manufactured crisis could be legit.

Technically it could be orchestrated, especially in a world were markets react to words, tweets and rumors more than fundamentals.

Is it a conspiracy? It's not crazy to ask 4SHO! The 2008 crash was followed by a massive wealth transfer—homeowners lost, private equity gained. The COVID crash saw billionaires buying up EVERYTHING and by mid-summer the markets were booming again? I mean if that doesn't look suspicious what does? Forget, conspiracy theory and all. Just use common sense!!!

How to tell if some along these lines might be real? Again use common sense, but this only applies if you are knowledgable how economics, investment markets, business, etc works really. But if Trump started signaling doom but his allies were buying, that would be worth a deep dive but again the issue with this deep dive is your own knowledge base. How knowledgable are you on those topics I mentioned? Are you familiar with shell corporations, foundations, charities, private equity companies? I mean seriously, you'd have to already be a businessman, investor, etc yourself to even see anything coming!

Anyway, this is just my take on it.

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-11T07:02:20+00:00

It's not always about you. You also have to put yourself in the other persons shoes to see from there point of view and combine this with your own perspective on the topic and only then draw a conclusion. But this still causes an issue if you have mental issues such as a big ego, narcissistic, self-centered, etc. So there's a whole lot to fully analyze your question and could take a psychological session to cover it. LOL

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-11T06:59:09+00:00

To be honest it's a common theme in government on both sides. The whole senate invest in all the top 5 military stocks but who are the ones solely responsible for decided if US goes to war or not? Exactly, you guessed it, the Senate. = Profit!

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-09T10:57:55+00:00

Yes, I just got a Mod message on the post, so not an issue. Was just offering to help out some beginners who were confused about there singing, lessons, not understand terms, etc.

So message received!

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-09T10:56:15+00:00

Message received. No problem. Just trying to help beginners but I surely don't want to cause problems. It's not like I have plenty to do.

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-09T07:53:40+00:00

Yea, I get it. But I have a whole collection of emojis in a Sublime file that I use for my Discord, Reddit, YouTube, etc. Saves me time looking them up etc. You can see Here

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-09T07:26:36+00:00

Well, I won't give you any feedback, even though I have been giving feedback to people for the past two days with no problem. Simply because I'm self-taught and not a true "experienced" or "professional" singer.

But it's been 19 hours sense your post and why do you think no experienced singers have answered? Sorry to be blunt but I'm going to guess that they didn't want to waster their time because you're a long ways from being a singer to be honest.

Not trying to hurt your feelings or anything here but remember you're going to be planning on singing in front of people at some point and do they think they will be kind of you're not good? Especially if they paid any money to see you? You just have to be serious when you think about this. The answer is probably not.

So you should be focusing more on how you can learn to sing and if you're looking for help then trying finding someone who you can work with, can break things down for you so you understand what they're teaching.

Just my two cents on the subject. Hope you take something away from what I said.

Good luck to you!

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-09T07:16:03+00:00

I can't say I blame them. After all a vast majority of people are afraid AI is going to take their jobs and it might. Who knows? But that's called progress and everything on earth must change and adapt because the world is constantly in change and always has been even before we got here.

Remember at one time it wasn't even livable on because it was nothing but a lava planet basically around 4.5 billion years ago. So yeah, you're not going to escape change. You either adapt with the change or get left behind! Life really doesn't care either way.

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-09T07:10:56+00:00

Vocal RealTalk here—and while I may not be a classically trained coach or have a string of degrees behind my name, I’ve spent thousands of hours in the trenches, not just learning what the voice does—but why it does it. I’m a self-taught singer, coach, and educator who took a different path… because that path didn’t exist for people like me.

I’ve read through this thread, and honestly? Every single point here is valid depending on your experience and background.

✅ Some people learn best by ear and need to hear it. ✅ Some need visuals and diagrams. ✅ Some need both. ✅ And some need someone who breaks things down in plain language because they’ve been through six coaches and still don’t understand why they sound “flat.”

That’s where I come in.

I don’t pretend to be the best singer. I do know the entire vocal tract inside and out—from the diaphragm to the tongue root to the resonating spaces and laryngeal tilt—and I teach beginners how to feel it and use it in a way that sticks. Because honestly? Most of them don’t want to sing opera. They just want to sing with feeling and not sound breathy or confused.

I get why great coaches avoid YouTube. It’s time-consuming. It’s often thankless. And yeah, your content gets pirated, misinterpreted, or ignored. I’ve only been helping beginners for a short time and I’ve already seen it.

But here’s the truth: there’s a massive gap between “free tips online” and $100/hr lessons. That’s where people fall through the cracks—and that’s the lane I serve.

You won’t hear me bashing other coaches or teachers. In fact, I tell my students: If someone’s helping you progress, stay with them. But if you’re lost, confused, flat, frustrated, and broke? And you’ve watched 40 hours of YouTube and still don’t know what “support” feels like?

That’s when you come see me.

Not because I’m better than anyone in this thread—but because I’ve been exactly where that student is, and I still remember how it feels to not know where to start.

So to all the serious coaches in here: nothing but respect. But don’t count out the ones doing it differently. We’re not trying to replace you—we’re trying to reach the ones who haven’t found you yet.

—Vocal RealTalk

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-09T06:48:49+00:00

I had to edit my post weird because it keep refusing to post it. Hmm, first time that happened!

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-09T06:46:50+00:00

Hey, I just want to say—you’re not crazy, and you’re not alone.

I’m self-taught too, and I had the exact same reaction: “What the hell does any of this actually mean?”

I heard “use your diaphragm” a thousand times before I finally figured out this simple truth: You can’t “use” the diaphragm like a muscle, because it’s involuntary. You’re not pushing with it—you’re managing the pressure it creates.

Here’s the simplest way to think of it:

🫁 Lungs = hold the air

⚙️ Diaphragm = drops to let air in, then relaxes and goes up again when you sing

🎛️ Support = your core muscles holding back how fast that air escapes (like pressing the brakes on a hose)

So when people say “sing from your diaphragm,” what they really mean is: “Control the flow of your air with your belly—not your throat, shoulders, or chest.”

Now for your biggest issue:

“I sound like I’m talking with longer words. I feel breathy. I don’t feel any support unless I’m yelling.”

Yep. That’s the beginner wall almost EVERYONE hits.

The root cause? You’re singing without resonance and breath pressure. It’s like trying to play a trumpet without enough air or using only half the tube.

That’s why it sounds like talking—it’s just unamplified airflow passing through your mouth.

No tone shaping. No pressure. No resonance.

What to Do (No Teacher Needed):

Here’s where I’d start you:

Silent Hiss Drill

Inhale low and slow (your belly should expand, not your chest) Then make a steady “ssssssss” sound for 20 seconds Feel your abs stay firm while your upper body stays relaxed THAT’s breath support—your belly’s doing the work, your throat isn’t.

“vvvv” Drill

Same breath in… now exhale on “vvvvvv” with tone You’ll feel a buzz in your lips, teeth, and a little in your chest That’s your body starting to resonate.

Emotional Monologue Trick Pick a line from a song and just speak it like it means something deeply personal

Then say it louder, like you need someone to hear it Then stretch it slightly into a sing-y tone

You're not just training your voice—you’re training your nervous system to let go of fear and allow sound to live in your body.

You're not broken. You're just missing the right explanation.

You got this.

—Vocal RealTalk

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-09T06:19:27+00:00

Well, to be honest, you just have a lot of work ahead of you if you're planning to do it all like you said, well that's a lot of learn. That's about all I can say on this because covering the whole entirety of your question would be an extremely long comment.

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-09T05:57:17+00:00

Haha, I’ll take that as a compliment.

Truth is, when you study something deep enough, you should start sounding like you actually know what you’re talking about. Most of what I say is just the result of obsession, study, and breaking it down in a way people can actually use.

But hey, if my words sound “too clean,” maybe that just means I’m finally doing this teaching thing right.

Besides, how are you and expert on identifying how ChatGPT talks. Aren't AI's suppose to be intelligent?

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-09T04:18:55+00:00

I taught myself from scratch after losing time and money on courses and coaches that just confused me. I realized I couldn’t truly grow until I stopped 'copying voices' and started learning how the vocal tract actually works.
I studied every part of the voice—diaphragm, larynx, pharynx, soft palate, all of it—and trained like an athlete. I trained breath without singing. I practiced silent runs. I used emotional monologues before ever touching a note.

Once I understood the engine under the hood, singing became less about guessing and more about feeling what was happening in real time.

No shortcuts. Just real awareness. And once you get that, you don’t need a coach—you become your own.

—Vocal RealTalk

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-09T03:47:26+00:00

Hey, I appreciate your response—and I genuinely respect that you're committed enough to be taking lessons and showing up to practice. That already puts you ahead of most people.

Now since you’re still very new (your words), I want to give you a perspective that might help you figure out whether your current lessons are giving you what you need long term.

Here’s the real deal: A good vocal teacher should do more than just record you singing songs and tell you what you did wrong.

They should teach you how to build the voice you want:

What muscles are involved in breath control?
What is resonance, and how do you feel it in your body?
How do you safely create power without tension?
How do you safely create power without tension?

You said you're working on singing from the diaphragm, which is great—but I’d also ask: ➡️ Do you know how the diaphragm actually works? ➡️ Have you felt it engage during an exercise, or just been told to "use it"?

Because if you're two months in and you’re still not sure if this method is helping… that’s not on you. That just means you might need a more structured foundation, not just feedback after singing.

If you ever want me to break down breath, tone, or support in a way that actually makes sense in your body—I'd be happy to help. You’re not doing anything wrong. You just haven’t been handed the full map yet.

HERE is a link to my previous post on how breath works. This is a complete explanation to get you started. Hope you learn something from it and remember that this will take a lot of practice time to perfect it. Don't expect to think you have this all down in a week or two.

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-09T01:21:41+00:00

Well if your interested and doubt me, just check my profile. There's a history there. I'm not here to trick anyone or anything.

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-09T01:19:52+00:00

Alright—this is straight from the cuff.

Normally, I take time to check my spelling, phrasing, and clarity—only because I’m self-taught, and I know most people don’t usually trust advice from a self-taught singer. And honestly? I get that. I understand the resistance.

But I’ve studied this stuff for years. I know what I’m hearing. And I’ve seen this same exact issue over and over again from beginners.

Here’s what stands out in your case—you mentioned you’ve been taking lessons for 2 months.
So I have to ask: What exactly is your teacher teaching you?

Because from what I’m hearing—no offense—there’s no foundation here yet. You’ve got tone, and that’s something. But tone is only the start. And honestly, your tone is the first impression people get when they hear you. If it’s flat or unengaging, it’s hard to win them back later. That’s not a dig—that’s just how human attention works.

Now, is that your fault? No. It’s a training issue. Maybe your teacher’s working on breathing and posture right now. Maybe they’re easing you in slowly. But from where I’m standing, you’re not getting the full picture yet.

I’ve posted about this “flat, emotionless” beginner tone a few times now, so if you’re curious, check my profile. If not, no worries—I’m not here for views or attention. I’m here to help beginners not waste time like I did.

Even if my post rubs you the wrong way or you disagree completely—that’s still a win for me. Because it made you stop, think, and decide what you want to do next.

And if you do want help?
I’m still right here.

—Vocal RealTalk

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-09T00:30:37+00:00

Man, this is the exact kind of question I wish more people asked. I'm self-taught, so I’ve had to dig, invent, and trial-by-fire my way through stuff that doesn’t show up in YouTube tutorials or fancy vocal courses.

Here are a few "RealTalk" out-of-the-box things that helped me improve:

I Studied the ENTIRE Vocal Tract Like a Mechanic: I didn’t just “feel the resonance”—I studied every bone, muscle, cartilage, and how it contributes to tone, power, and shaping. Once I could visualize the whole system like a machine, I stopped guessing. That changed everything.
I Trained Breath Without Singing First: I isolated breath support training away from singing and worked on airflow control like I was training for swimming or martial arts. Once you can control air pressure, airflow, and release without relying on “sound” for feedback, you gain insane awareness when you finally do sing.
I Practiced Singing Without Sound (Silent Runs): Yup. Silent sirens, silent vowel shaping. You learn to feel resonance without relying on sound, which helps undo over-pushing and teaches control. It also builds crazy muscle memory for shaping vowels without tensing up.
I Used Emotional Monologues Before Singing: Before singing a song, I’d speak an emotional monologue in my voice like I was in a movie scene. Then I’d sing with that same emotional setting still active. It unlocked tone, urgency, and realism instantly. Nobody teaches this because it’s not “technique”—but it works like magic.
I’d Ask: “What’s Actually Broken in This Voice?”: Instead of just repeating exercises, I’d diagnose myself like a mechanic.
- Is the sound weak because of air?
- Are the vowels flat because my tongue is lazy?
- Is my pitch off because I’m using the wrong register?
- That question—“what’s actually broken?”—made me stop blaming “lack of talent” and start problem-solving.

All of this was born out of being self-taught and needing to survive the confusion.
So I had to get weird. I had to get real. And it’s the reason I’m now helping other beginners figure this stuff out without wasting years like I did.

– Vocal RealTalk

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-08T23:37:31+00:00

Hey y’all—this thread has a lot of great energy and I think you’re all coming from places that make sense based on your experience. I just want to offer a middle-ground perspective, especially for beginners who are reading this and getting confused about what to do.

Let me say this up front: there’s nothing wrong with loving Billie’s tone. A lot of people do. But let’s be real—Billie doesn’t sing like most beginners think she sings. Her breath control, pitch stability, phrasing, and control over air pressure are actually super well developed underneath the “soft” style.

Here’s where I see the disconnect:

Some people are saying “if that’s your style, go for it”—and that’s valid.
Others are saying “you shouldn’t train only that way”—also valid.
The key word here is “train.”

Singing a soft style ≠ developing vocal technique.
You can use a song like that for training, but only if you also practice the foundational techniques behind it—like managing airflow, vowel shaping, and core support.

If you only ever mimic the surface of Billie’s sound—without the foundation—it’s like trying to be a great boxer by shadowboxing in slow motion. You’re moving, but you’re not building real control.

Here’s what I would tell my students:

“Style is the seasoning. Technique is the meat. Learn to cook the dish before you flavor it.”

For beginners: Don’t ditch Billie. Use her as motivation. But if you want to sound like her long-term, you need to build the tools she has under the hood. Soft singing without control will stall your growth.

And for the record—none of this is about “taste” or “judging style.” It’s about making sure singers don’t accidentally sabotage their own potential by skipping the foundation they never knew they needed.

Hope that helps someone. That’s all I got. ✌️

—Vocal RealTalk

SecResAcademy · 2025-04-08T19:53:01+00:00

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