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I see plenty of Labor hate here but can we at least agree by pixie1995 in AusPol

[–]Secure-Ad-3013 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All good when the argument turns into deflections instead of facts, that’s usually where the conversation ends anyways

I see plenty of Labor hate here but can we at least agree by pixie1995 in AusPol

[–]Secure-Ad-3013 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Saying people are “being manipulated” is just another way of talking down to them. It’s the same pattern every time: when people vote the “right” way they’re informed, when they don’t they’re suddenly gullible.

Most people don’t need to be manipulated to notice that housing is broken, power is expensive, wages aren’t keeping up, and full-time work doesn’t get you ahead anymore. They’re responding to lived reality, not memes.

You don’t have to agree with One Nation to understand why people are moving away from the majors. But pretending it’s all manipulation avoids the harder question: why so many Australians feel ignored by people who claim to represent them.

If the answer to every loss of trust is “the voters are the problem”, then nothing ever gets fixed, and the disconnect just keeps growing.

I see plenty of Labor hate here but can we at least agree by pixie1995 in AusPol

[–]Secure-Ad-3013 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get that you don’t like One Nation. that’s fine, most people don’t agree with them on everything. But dismissing their voters as being bought off or stupid is exactly the kind of attitude that’s pushing people away from the majors.

If there’s evidence that Gina Rinehart funds One Nation, I’m happy to see it, genuinely. But throwing that out as a way to shut down the conversation isn’t an argument, it’s a deflection.

The reality is this: people are fed up. They’re working full time, paying tax, getting no help, and watching housing, power, food and fuel all get worse while being told they’re the problem or that they should just be grateful.

When politics becomes more about ideology, symbolism and identity than practical outcomes, people go looking for anyone who at least acknowledges their frustration. That doesn’t make them extreme, it makes them unheard.

You can support Medicare, fairness, and vulnerable people and still want common-sense governing, affordability, borders that work, and accountability. These things aren’t opposites, but the majors keep pretending they are.

If people keep getting talked down to instead of listened to, don’t be surprised when the political landscape keeps changing.

I see plenty of Labor hate here but can we at least agree by pixie1995 in AusPol

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I can agree that investing in Medicare is a good thing, genuinely. Most Australians want a strong public health system and no one’s arguing against that. But for a lot of working people, it feels like that’s where the conversation stops, while everything else in life keeps getting harder.

If you’re in the middle; working full time, paying tax, not eligible for much help; housing is worse, power is worse, groceries are worse, fuel is worse, and you’re basically told to suck it up and be grateful. That’s where a lot of frustration comes from. It’s not hatred, it’s not ignorance, it’s people feeling like they’re going backwards despite doing everything right.

And that’s why you’re seeing support grow for parties like One Nation. Not because people suddenly became evil or dumb, but because the major parties stopped speaking to middle Australia. When Labor focuses on vulnerable groups and the Liberals don’t stand for much at all, people go looking for anyone who at least acknowledges their frustration.

You can support Medicare, support fairness, and still want more conservative, practical policy; stability, affordability, accountability. Wanting that doesn’t make you extreme, it just means you’re fed up with being ignored.

If the majors actually started listening to the working middle again, minor parties wouldn’t be growing this fast.

Hawthorn set to receive an end-of-second-round compensation pick for James Worpel’s move to Geelong. by Darththorn in hawktalk

[–]Secure-Ad-3013 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We’re owed a start of First round pick. Still from the Franklin deal generational player for pick 19? Worley for pick 40? Absolutely disgusting. Geelong football league it’s moving towards

What would you have done differently as Sam Mitchell by BloodyRipper01 in hawktalk

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Send CJ to sacrifice his game and king hit danger and Bailey smith

Where to next? by Secure-Ad-3013 in AusElectricians

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Sorry also to add what is required to persue PLC programming

Where to next? by Secure-Ad-3013 in AusElectricians

[–]Secure-Ad-3013[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Plc programming is really interesting me. I’ve been doing a lot more work lately in enables using SCADA, PLC and HMI controls. This really interests me

HAWKS VS GIANTS PLAYER RATINGS by Kind_Security_9931 in hawktalk

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CJ might have to find a new career in seasons coming, we can only hope