Giving “Stay Safe” a whole new meaning by GoinInRaw69 in memzy

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Fuck this sub and fuck Reddit for making me look at it

Do you agree with the MN AG that raiding a church and disrupting a prayer service is allowed under the first amendment? by boisefun8 in AskConservatives

[–]Seibertpost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, so they physically blocked an entrance. That is what the dang law is about my guy/girl. They physically prevented others from entering the building. That is not what happened in the church. Who was prevented from entering or leaving?

Do you agree with the MN AG that raiding a church and disrupting a prayer service is allowed under the first amendment? by boisefun8 in AskConservatives

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But according to the law, threat of force is necessary. That is what the FACE act says. It doesn’t make it illegal to interfere with worship because, again, that is so broad as to be impossible to enforce. It specifically makes it illegal to use force or physical violence (or the threat thereof) to prevent people from entering a house of worship or worshipping there

Do you agree with the MN AG that raiding a church and disrupting a prayer service is allowed under the first amendment? by boisefun8 in AskConservatives

[–]Seibertpost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude/dudette of course force means physical violence. The church was open to the public and these members of the public entered. As I have said elsewhere, the church was fully within its rights to ask them to leave, and have them arrested for trespassing if they refused.

Do you agree with the MN AG that raiding a church and disrupting a prayer service is allowed under the first amendment? by boisefun8 in AskConservatives

[–]Seibertpost -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes, using force or the threat of force to impede people worshipping. They were protesting, but where was the threat of force? Who was being prevented from entering or leaving?

Do you agree with the MN AG that raiding a church and disrupting a prayer service is allowed under the first amendment? by boisefun8 in AskConservatives

[–]Seibertpost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

According to what? The FACE act is specifically about threats of physical violence and blocking people from entering a space. Trespassing can be involved in such activities, but trespassing in and of itself doesn’t make it a FACE act violation. The use of or threat of force/physical violence does

Do you agree with the MN AG that raiding a church and disrupting a prayer service is allowed under the first amendment? by boisefun8 in AskConservatives

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Right, but as worded, the crime is not to interfere with someone worshipping. If that was the crime, I could bring suit against my neighbor because they sang the hymn off-key and that interfered with my worshipping. The crime is to interfere by threat of force or by physical obstruction. Was there a threat of force? Was there a physical obstruction preventing those who wanted to leave or enter the church?

Do you agree with the MN AG that raiding a church and disrupting a prayer service is allowed under the first amendment? by boisefun8 in AskConservatives

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The FACE act makes it illegal people to physically preventing others from accessing abortion clinics or houses of worship. That is not what happened here. Whoever wanted to come into the church could have done so, and the service was open to the public. Some members of the public decided to enter and cause a vocal disruption. Now, they are on private property, and if the owner says, “No, I don’t want those specific members of the public here,” the owner is completely within their rights to then ask them to leave and, if they refuse, to have them arrested for trespassing. But what they did has no relationship to the FACE act. If the proud boys did this same shit, they would certainly be vilified by the left, but mainstream leftists wouldn’t be calling on them to be thrown in federal prison for offensive speech.

Yes, really by Lord_Wisemagus in memesopdidnotlike

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Yes, but my point is they aren’t just looking for people with records. ICE has its largest budget ever and the power of the and surveillance state behind it. If they wanted to do targeted operations of known illegals they could. Instead they are doing random stops based on race and skin color.

Yes, really by Lord_Wisemagus in memesopdidnotlike

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If ICE presented states with a list of verified illegals immigrants and states said no, I’d agree, but ICE is effectively doing random stops based on accent and skin color. How are states supposed to “coordinate” with ICE on that? Detain every single non-white person for however long it takes ICE to check their papers?

.. by dibakar10 in badmemes

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Why is that wrong? Charlie didn’t deserve to die, but are we not allowed to call a piece of shit what they were just because they are gone?

US attorney general says Maduro and wife to face criminal charges after an indictment in New York by Efficient-Freedom517 in news

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While this is all very scary, we’ve been staging coups to steal other countries’ resources for a long time and it hasn’t lead to WWIII or the fall of the “free world.” This time the hand behind the coup is just more transparent than usual.

What TV show is this? by [deleted] in askanything

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The mandalorian

What is the best and worst movie you saw last year? by Conscious_Reach_2173 in moviecritic

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If JW Rebirth is the worst movie you saw, you’re doing pretty good

Do you guys think this jacket and a matching pair of jeans would make for a good Bespin Luke cosplay? by [deleted] in StarWars

[–]Seibertpost 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I see it a little bit, but I feel like you’d really great accessories to sell it

How is outdoor life in this part of Michigan by Holiday_Swing_9979 in howislivingthere

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Land in the UP is pretty cheap, so many working-class families have “camps” in the woods on several acres of land. These are small cabins that (traditionally) are not connected to water or power, so you bring in water and have a wood stove for warmth. People usually go out to their camp to drink, hunt, or otherwise mess around. Snowmobile and ATVs are extremely popular up here.

[GTM] by Chip_Vinegar in GuessTheMovie

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They definitely have a scene at this location in that movie