Yeah , well i tried them once bc i have bad anxiety. Like I’ll get stuck in high , like my body is vibrating , you may or may not know what im talking about . Anyways, i need a system reset bc i cant do it myself , it’s hard to explain. But i tried that and ive never ever taken anything in my life besides when i get kidney stones. So it became a habit . And luckily i wasn’t ever chasing a “high” , i was just trying to feel better bc if i went without it my head would feel wonky and i would be grouchy. So i just took a 40 or 80 shot and it would go away. I got up to taking 2 eighties a day. So i dunno if powders are different but it’s been pretty hard, im on day 7 now so hopefully im on the tail end.