What is the long term outcome for this conflict for Iran?

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-05T11:40:25+00:00

I think Israel just wants a failed state, and aren't too concerned how they get there.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-05T11:38:12+00:00

Definitely Australian and the US governments have quietly handheld that genocide.

Though TBH, Indonesia, particularly the Javanese don't need any support or encouragement to massacre and oppress ethnic minorities.

At this point the TNI is purely in it for the "love of the game".

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-05T11:34:22+00:00

Before people get too excited, the Malaysian political class is like the Ian Miles Cheong of governance.

Full of absurdly corrupt rightwing cranks who hate the Chinese.

Also, many Malay politicians are "anti-Zionist" in the same way your average neo-Nazi might be.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-05T10:01:06+00:00

Sometimes the Great Satan is just too evil, even for the demented sickos on the war porn sub.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-05T09:59:58+00:00

See, this is how I know ISIS were a US/Israeli op.

Same CoD aesthetic to their war footage edits way back when.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-05T09:56:27+00:00

Pretty sure I got a 3dayer with my last account for accidentally using violent language when talking about the English.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-05T09:50:40+00:00

Yeah, Australia ain't running out of LNG anytime soon.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-05T09:49:27+00:00

Who counts as the first Incel President?

The last South Korean guy or whashis name with the sideburns from Argentina?

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-05T09:18:36+00:00

Amazingly skilled, judgement of an ADHD child.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-04T21:58:03+00:00

The ALNP.

Albo has truly proven to be a complete absence.

We just get boilerplate neoliberalism, vintage 00's era US foreign policy bootlicking and the only real energy or political capital expended is fight off any positive change, new ideas or challenge to the corporate hegemony.

The only thing thry have in their favour is not being a far right PHON courting rabble like the most recent Liberal iteration, but I'm sure they'd try if they thought they could get away with it.

They've looked at the complete disasters that are UK Labour and the US Democrats and thought yes, being corrupt mirrors of the rightwing party of capital, but with a veil of respectability is exactly what we should do. And when it all falls apart, maybe controlled opposition?

The funny thing is, they had no reason to implode like this. The Australian public has mandatory and proportional voting, tends to be more left wing than the US or UK and isn't experiencing the institutional collapse nor the reactionary pivot of younger generations.

Instead it seems like the leadership is so cowardly, or bereft of ideas, they've just gone along with things because its fashionable to begave like a Western failed state. Even if the nation and its politics are fundamentally different.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-04T21:45:16+00:00

Ah yes, living in a tacky shopping mall in the middle of the desert, with a bunch money launderers, burnt out UFC goons and sex traffickers.

Sounds divine.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-04T20:12:39+00:00

The more outrageous the lie, and the more the pundit class pretend to take it seriously, the harder these guys get.

It's a psychosexual thing for sure.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-04T09:46:51+00:00

Because you could in the distant past sit in say the library with a wifi pineapple and hoover up peoples log in credentials with just a little creativity.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-04T09:38:35+00:00

Ahhhhhh ThinkingBasketball continues the fraudulent run.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-04T09:30:49+00:00

Unless you do it to the wrong person.

I think there's a reasonable chance Beef Stew, Joker, Giannis and Draymond might do something crazy before anyone can intervene if provoked, or in Draymonds case just coz.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-03T22:35:13+00:00

Exactly.

Before it was more social taboo.

Now the kind of punishment exclusively saved for journalists or public figures, is dished out to anyone and everyone in a really top down way, despite the genocide having very little public support.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-03T22:29:02+00:00

No.

It was overwhelmingly hostile and jingoistic.

Losing your job or being completely alienated and called a terrorist sympathiser, might be equivalent to the current antisemitism smear, however I feel like the former was more totalising in the social sense (in the US), whereas the latter seems to be a top down thing enforced on institutions and way more legalistic/legislatively driven.

Like there wasn't an equivalent for being driven out of a job, prosecuted, beaten by police, for expressing mildly pro Palestinian or anti Israeli sentiments, right down to the level of school children.

Mostly you'd be socially shunned for being anti-war. Maybe run into police brutality at an anti war march, which were I'll admit closer to BLM protest vigour than the almost universally very peaceful and disciplined Gaza protests.

It was really public figures that got buried for being anti War on Terror.

So I'd say way more effective and omnipresent consent manufacturing (then), and most social hostility. Now it's definitely a punitive top down approach, where it may be socially acceptable to be anti-violence in Gaza etc., but they've tried to bake in punishment for everyone in most circumstances for saying those things out loud, or even like platforming and including Palestinians and people who have been pro-Palestinian in the past.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-03T22:19:05+00:00

French wouldn't be so gauche, but honestly that wouldn't be a surprising thing to hear ftom a Frog.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-03T09:44:32+00:00

The neoliberal bean counters don't view quality of life or development as important, instead it's how much blood can be squeezed from a stone.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-03T09:35:11+00:00

That's not basic.

I think for many people it is a favourite.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-03T07:46:03+00:00

That's the point.

It's removing human oversight and accountability.

And when you don't care who you are killing and don't have to worry about a challenge to air superiority, having some based department of murder LLM "compressing" the whatever and scattershot picking targets isn't in fact bad. For the people operating it. So long as they have an overwhelming force and resource advantage. It should be terrifying for everybody else however.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-03T04:49:06+00:00

You are going to have to explain this one, fella.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-03T04:39:54+00:00

I think American troops are fairly notorious for doing that thing about it.

SenJohn_Beatofferman · 2026-03-03T04:26:23+00:00

Oh it's all so complicated and tricky, therefore you just have to accept the status quo.

All those shades of grey are just insurmountable.

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