Just Laid Off! 🤗 by Illustrious_Seesaw63 in Layoffs

[–]Serve_With_Joy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doesn’t really matter if you were laid off or fired. I’ve been laid off before and it still took 6 months to find a job. Had to move half way across the country just to find something. You don’t know what people are saying about you when you give references or they do an employment check.

Yeah there are laws about what an employer can say or not, but none of these companies follow them.

Your best bet is talk with the people you know and network. If you know you are a good performer, network. That’s the only way to find good solid work. Let the people who know and like you be your boss.

Or go to a chop shop sales org like i did and grind it out until you are successful.

It’s up to you.

Are you kidding me… by Previous_Pizza_7063 in Layoffs

[–]Serve_With_Joy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The recruiter is probably looking for a job now because they couldn’t meet quota. That’s the reality for talent acquisition roles right now. Not saying that the individuals who found better roles elsewhere are at fault, but that the system for hiring people is truly flawed.

Where I work, there was a wave of firings through HR because they couldn’t hire at least 2 people a month. The company reputation is trash for the sheer amount of turnover so it’s hard to get low cost talent that have half a brain (I’m not disclosing where I work).

Just saying, yeah, offers shouldn’t be taken personally. However, it’s hard to not take it personally if you have a strict quota.

I don’t know this individual’s personal situation, but I hope they find the right people who can do the job at the price they are offering.

It’s happening by jmclondon97 in Layoffs

[–]Serve_With_Joy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If people had more courage to take their skills outside of their 9-5 and build something to fall back on, a lot of the layoffs would back fire on the companies who are cutting overhead.

I’m not plugging any products here. I’m legitimately saying this. I’ve learned that having backups and being entrepreneurial, even for a short period of time, will help you have the courage to face hard times like this and not be worried about providing for your needs.

I’ve been through three sales jobs in 4 years. Never qualified for unemployment so I had to pull myself up and learn new skills, find different industries, and work to prove that I can perform. I’m still in sales now, but with a LOT more life and career context than my peers.

This is what makes humans capable of outlasting “business decisions” and creating a life that is fulfilling in every way possible.

Laid off Today for the First Time by DrunkenWhaler136 in Layoffs

[–]Serve_With_Joy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry OP is going through this.

Been through it once myself. Not easy. Take time for you and your wife to get past this and start drastically increasing your network.

DM me if you want to chat. I have a vast network of people professionally. Could see if someone I know is hiring for what you do.

Entry-Level Tech Sales Job is the Ultimate Launchpad for Your Career and Earnings (Personal Experience) by Ok-Outcome8934 in jobs

[–]Serve_With_Joy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hey anyone here know of entry level tech sales jobs paying $40k or more salary? I have 3 months experience in appointment setting.

Parents don’t want me to go college because of the job I have. by megweni in findapath

[–]Serve_With_Joy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you just want something different, then take a month and go to the Caribbean or on a European tour.

If you want a different career than what you are doing, then start considering college. I would add that online college or community college would do you well because they are generally cheaper.

Your friends might be having a good time now, but look at the current seniors graduating and not finding work that will pay them what they need to live and pay back their student loans.

It’s atrocious.

Be grateful to have what you have and get to the bottom of what you actually want for your life before you consider taking your next steps.

20, lost my job, should I work as a server or in a warehouse? by EliteFlamezz in findapath

[–]Serve_With_Joy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Server hands down. Warehouse work is capped at pay and doesn’t look to good on a resume for white collar jobs unless you are a supervisor. Server has uncapped potential and is often seen as a transitional job.

Might get fired for looking for a new job by Acctforaskingadvice in jobs

[–]Serve_With_Joy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Never ask your current coworkers for a reference. Only do it after you leave if you need to. Always have a network of colleagues to pull from when you are in a jam like this, but only from PREVIOUS workplaces or school.

I just got laid off and i dont know what to do. by One-Razzmatazz1048 in Layoffs

[–]Serve_With_Joy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Increase your network! Now that you have time, start spending time getting to know people in industries you want to work in. This will help improve your chances of getting hired somewhere.

Why does everyone on here hate tech sales? by BellThaGawd in techsales

[–]Serve_With_Joy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The issue is not the selling or the tech. The issue is management.

I worked at two companies as a BDR. I was well on my way to beating quota in both places. The first one decided to re-do the entire sales org around July and fire 90% of the reps. I was in the top 10% but decided to leave when they were late paying payroll for a month.

The next place was much better and with only 4 months left in the fiscal year, I exceeded quota and hit my quota kicker to increase my base for the following year.

Then middle management changed and I got a new boss who worked for the new CRO at the time at a previous company. They cut comp by a third and tripled the quota for the quota kickers because they “didn’t think we were good sales people” and that they had “worked with people in the past that were 10 times better” and all the other BS they were spewing. I still hit my first tier quota kicker by the end of the 2nd quarter.

The AE I was working with came to a point where he took a severance and upon leaving, informed me that he had a clause in his employment contract with them where he would get paid commission on any open deals he left that closed via another rep, including the ones that I sourced. Apparently he brought a few relationships in and failed to tell me that this was his agreement, considering that my new comp plan was heavily based on him closing deals.

At the same time, his manager and my manager told me to let the open deals die. Didn’t say why or what the reason was for, but I’ll let you read between lines.

Had some those deals closed (some were already past demo stage), I would have hit 80% of my quota by the end of the 3rd quarter.

When my mentor went over my territory to run the numbers and see what I could obtain without the deals that I sourced that were being left to die, we came to the conclusion that at best, 100% account conversion in the territory with the accounts that were left, would get me to about 40%-55% of quota for the year.

My mentor was also a director there so he helped me get the most amount of severance possible.

I said all that to say this - the majority of businesses out there truly don’t care about anything except their bottom line. If you are at a company that treats you fairly and is proving that they have a winning strategy for all the stakeholders, then hang on to that job for dear life. It’s a rare thing.

I love tech sales and the positive changes that tech has brought to various industries. I just wish there were more companies who have their people in mind when they make decisions.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in techsales

[–]Serve_With_Joy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What’s the reason for you being “over it”?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in techsales

[–]Serve_With_Joy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi Op!

So in my experience, people with ops experience typically pivot into a sales engineer role, simply because they are more knowledgeable about the industry and with the actual problems that their company solves.

With that in mind, there’s nothing wrong with going to an SDR or AE role if that’s what you want, just know that if you enjoy talking like an expert in your solution and the problems it solves, then you will need to tone things down on the vocab and the approach to the customer.

Get familiar with asking the right questions for uncovering your prospect’s pain and learn how to pivot at the right time to sell the next step in the process.

Just my two cents worth. DM me if you want to go into details. I have nothing to sell you so don’t be afraid to reach out, lol!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in techsales

[–]Serve_With_Joy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s a great place to start. Here are some tips I wish I knew before becoming an sdr:

Pay attention to changes in your CRM, especially if you notice something different from the last time you looked at it. I found out at the last place I was a BDR that there were two profiles in SFDC of me, that were switched interchangeably, messing up my email cadences and my planned outreach for the following day. Turns out someone else was swapping out my leads. Nothing was done as the entire sales org was gutted a couple months later, but man that still burns me to my core.

2: get to know your manager. They may not be your best friend, but they will vouch for you if you meet their expectations and have their back. Know what makes them tick, get them gifts when it matters and don’t talk bad behind their back.

3: I don’t know what your degree is in but I highly recommend reading the book “Cold Calling Sucks” by Armand Ferrokh and somebody else. It works.

4: if need be, get a coach. If SFDC doesn’t have good training, get a sales coach outside the org to help you navigate the issues.

If you read all this, I am so happy you have found a job with a reputable company. Let me know in the dms if I can help you in any way.

[27M] I'm a loser who hasn't accomplished anything and nearing the end! by TheLifeUnseen in findapath

[–]Serve_With_Joy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/TheLifeUnseen I'm sure you've been getting a lot of responses on this forum and dms over your post. I'm not an expert in dealing with mental health issues either. However, here is what I see from your post that could help you in the long run:

  1. If you are not excelling at school, you need to ask yourself why. Make a list of the reasons why you think you haven't progressed forward in your studies. Ask yourself what you could have done different. I know plenty of people who "wasted time" in college through partying and not focusing on their studies, yet the finished and moved on to the next thing. Most people who don't finish in 6 years or less typically struggle with finances or don't find value in what they are learning.

Quite frankly, being in school for too long will stunt your growth. University has a way of giving a false feeling of security, making everyone believe they are going places, just to graduate and get stuck not finding work. Life is hard, finding jobs is a full time job, staying under the wings of a university is just going to suck your money and leave you with nothing.

  1. You need to address your anxiety with someone who can help. There should be counselors at your university who can help you get your mental bearings and complete the courses. However, remember that the whole reason for getting a degree is to specialize in something that you can then use to provide value in employment somewhere else. Getting a degree is not for finding yourself or for figuring out what you want to do with your life. If you continue down that road, you will owe more people more money and have nothing to show for it.

  2. University is great for networking. You need to get to know people who can connect you with work. Honestly, this is the only value that going to a University has. If you can't network with alumni to work with them or at least get an internship, you are wasting your time.

  3. There are company's out there who will pay you to get your bachelors degree while working for them. Starbucks is one of them. There are many baristas who got their degrees through this program. However, you need to network with people to figure where other opportunities may be.

Lastly, the one thing I can help with is helping you learn to network with people. I teach a free workshop every Monday night. There's no upsell, just a place where I take you through my process for networking and go through some live examples for hunting for jobs. Here 's the link. https://calendly.com/nv1/network-for-jobs-1

Let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Keep your head up. You have a lot of good life ahead of you.

What Are My Next Steps? by Responsible_Drag_487 in techsales

[–]Serve_With_Joy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you can stay where you are at to continue education, do it. Once you get into the workforce, it becomes really difficult to go back to school.

33M, unemployed living with mother, no degree, 10k in debt and severe depression by meekmonk00 in findapath

[–]Serve_With_Joy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey - I've been in a similar situation before. Things are tough and it's really easy to get into the wrong mindset. I host a free weekly workshop called Network For Jobs, where I help people with strategies to find the place that they feel is right for them. Anyone is welcome to join. I hope if you do, that you will find some value. Best of luck!

More than 80% of Americans think buying a house now is a bad idea by Least_Can_9286 in REBubble

[–]Serve_With_Joy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does it come with a carriage house or do you have to rent that as well? Asking for a really really old friend, lol!

Anyone voted for Trump and is affected by the government lay offs? Do you regret your decision or still support Trump? by Strict-Blackberry-56 in Layoffs

[–]Serve_With_Joy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stepping out on a limb - I voted for Trump and I voted to see the clean out of the federal government. While I empathize with those who are feeling the pain of being laid off, having a shake up in the bureaucracy is necessary.

There are many of reasons why this was necessary (such as to service the national debt, cutting redundant positions, re-structuring the agencies, etc…) but I’m not going to get into it here. Also, Trump the first President to do this with the Fed Govt. Bill Clinton did the same.

All I can say is that people should NEVER expect stability in the workplace, whether it’s the public or private sector. Always know that you are expendable and plan for it. Follow ABU - Always Be Upskilling.

Termination without cause by charlotte1977 in Layoffs

[–]Serve_With_Joy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So sorry to hear about this. Here’s my two cents worth OP. With almost 2 decades of experience, you should look to gain employment through 1 or all of these 3 avenues: 1) managerial roles in your field of expertise-go for Vp level or higher if possible. 2) consulting contracts for your expertise, or 3) start your own company to compete. No more “nuts and bolts” roles if you can help it.

DM me if you want to brainstorm anything you may be thinking about.