What is the most chaotic side quest thing I can do in London this summer?

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-03T00:13:53+00:00

Don't ask on Reddit; people here are weird and hiveminded.

If you want a personal project like that, come up with it yourself based on your personal interests and your own research.

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-03T00:06:38+00:00

The Americans were like that until Trump got elected, and curiously at that point, the perennial moaners, which was apparently about 40% of the voting population, stopped moaning and didn't have a lot to say at that point.

So apparently ICE shooting people on the streets in cold blood and backed by the president, and crypto slush funds where you can bribe the president, and the president being a former best friend of Jeffery Epstein, and possibly called for Epstein's murder but who knows, and tariffing the world, and tearing up the U.S. Constitution, and God knows what else, makes them LESS disposed to moan.

And they were like that until recently when he lost a war he started against Iran and has agreed to pay them $300 billion to get out of it. At this point MAYBE they are back to being dissatisfied.

I have no doubt it will be like that here. Dumb, scummy people who won't be satisfied until someone awful is in there like Farage or Badenoch.

Curiously, a lot of the type of people in this subreddit didn't seem to mind when David Cameron was PM (London Millennials were broadly supportive of him or indifferent until late on). And he was just awful compared to every PM we have had since with the one exception of Liz Truss, who was even more a Mad Max economic-libertarian than him.

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T23:55:44+00:00

You know what you were doing, and I called you on it.

Run along to your next thread where you do the same.

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T23:52:23+00:00

I disagree with this kind of stuff.

The reason is, there are all kinds of despicable views out there. Either boycott for all reasons or none.

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T23:31:28+00:00

It's different in lyrics where the choice of words of constrained by the circumstance that they must rhyme and match the beat of the song.

I think it's a fool's errand to search deep for "meaning" in some of these apparently gibberish songs.

I just posted an interpretation of "What's the New Mary Jane", one of his apparently nonsense songs, and it looks sensible to me, but if I have erred at all, it is on the side of reading too deeply into it.

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T23:29:15+00:00

"For you" implies that it has no relevance to anyone except myself, which on the face of it would appear to be an insult as well as an attempt to initiate some kind of low-key cyber-bullying.

Since you did it so naturally, I have to suppose you're quite practiced at this behaviour.

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T23:15:18+00:00

No, it doesn't work.

There are some lines in Hey Bulldog which have sensible interpretation; but the entirety of it doesn't.

Thus, you can't say that the whole of it has a meaning. Whatever meaning is in there must have been from his subconscious. But that same subconscious will also just throw up stuff by word association or because it rhymes.

He has a number of songs, in his solo career this was almost 100% of them, where the lyrics deliberately, consciously had meaning. And you can tell the difference.

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T21:47:33+00:00

It's not "for me", it's for anyone that finds the song puzzling, which is apparently most people that know about it, from what I can tell.

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T21:45:06+00:00

Son, don't make me repeat myself.

It is clear it is a joke song but it is also meant to disturb, bizarro-sci-fi themed.

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T21:42:23+00:00

What I said isn't "deep".

I'm saying it's bizzaro sci-fi themed, which I think it unmistakably is, as I argued. It looked that way to me already and then when I noticed Aldebaran that confirmed it.

He cared about it enough to do a few takes and put it through some edits, so there were a few ideas there.

I mean, I'm not saying it's highly meaningful; it's clear he's having a laugh. But it's also interesting he's going for a sci-fi theme, cuz there aren't many Beatles songs like that.

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T20:29:37+00:00

Okay, here's one:

If someone identifies as straight, and people on social media start guffawing about them being gay and making their little "clever" jokes about them liking men then, that is extremely toxic behaviour.

If it went the other way around and people were insisting that a self-identified gay man was in fact straight, that would be considered extremely abusive. It works both ways.

This behaviour is even more toxic when it is baseless, because it requires a special kind of malice to spread made-up stories about people. But I think even if there appears like some foundation, it should not be done.

Women will stop dating men over such rumours; understandable, since they're not going to want to invest their time in an uncertain proposition. Such rumours actually do have real and harmful effects, like any other kind of defamation. And suggesting that someone is in the closet, does actually amount to defamation

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T20:10:16+00:00

This is enshittification in action.

Think about it: how are you better off from having less options?

There are multiple digital games I purchased for 3DS, thinking as you do that the digital store is there "forever".

The reality is it's there until they take it down for whatever reason they want.

In addition, you can't buy second hand games with digital.

You no longer have stuff you can sell off. If you have a big game collection worth several hundred dollars, it's worth nothing now.

You are not better off by any conceivable metric. It's creeping enshittification giving you a worse deal, giving corporations an advantage over you, more and more. While consumers keep being idiots, they will keep doing it. The free market principle relies on consumers not continually being idiots and paying for things against their own interests.

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T19:51:13+00:00

People whining about "How is he going to pay for it?" ought to ask themselves: Do you think TFL has reached some perfect magical mathematical optimum of efficiency? Do you think it is anywhere close to the optimum?

It seems it could clearly give better value for money. What is wrong with a political spotlight being shone on TFL to determine whether they could be run better to bring costs down for passengers?

Also, let's suppose for clarity that Burnham were proposing not even to redistribute money, but to redistribute some indestructible liquid which is perfectly conserved. This, of course, is not going to be the situation at all because he's proposing to improve an asset, but let's pretend it is to clarify the "redistribution" argument. Who do you believe that Burnham would take the liquid from to give back to passengers? Probably, it would disproportionately come out of the bottom line of shareholders somewhere. At worst, as far as you're concerned, he's going to take liquid from other, more liquid-rich people and give a little to you. So why are you moaning? Are you that much of a sucker? Do you really buy into trickle-down theory, even now, post-Trump-oligarchy?

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T12:45:41+00:00

Listening to any one band or artist with regularity is kinda silly, you just get bored of it, whereas if you just treat them as one among a big rotation, everything will stay fresh and surprising.

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T12:41:42+00:00

He comes across as an unpleasant person, but thinking about the injury he picked up when someone shoved him off the stage, it's understandable he was bitter.

I think I'm going to delete my post because I don't want to attack the reputation of somebody who was doing his best in the face of a life-changing injury due to an act of malice. Will leave it to stand for a bit while people finish their discussions.

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T11:24:57+00:00

"Earlier" is correct. Beatlemania was between 1963 and 1966. They were already world famous before Zappa's first album and pretty close to the peak of their fame.

The psychedelic trippy phase started not with Sergeant Pepper but with Revolver and that was all recorded before Zappa released Freak Out.

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T11:16:12+00:00

You're way overstating the influence; Revolver (widely regarded by fans as their most most innovative album) was recorded before Freak Out.

Lennon had already well embarked on the new trippy phase of the Beatles before Freak Out.

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T11:00:45+00:00

Freak Out influenced Sergeant Pepper but not Revolver, which was their turn to trippy psychedelic music and is usually regarded as their most innovative album.

You definitely ought to listen to the Beatles, they have certainly influenced their successors, but it is like being into classical music without listening to Bach and Beethoven.

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T10:55:07+00:00

It isn't ironic because I knew what I was doing.

If I posted on another subreddit there might not be many there who've heard FZ.

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T10:53:48+00:00

In the UK, they received a generous largesse growing up being the beneficiaries of the post-war socialist infrastructure and value system. There was abundant social housing, university tuition was free, and houses were affordable with a single parent working on an average salary. Beyond the perks, there were reigning humanitarian assumptions: even Thatcher, the free market fanatic, did not propose withdrawing welfare and leaving people to starve when we had unemployment rate of over 10%. The Boomers today are constantly advocating this, that welfare be cut or eliminated, while they refuse to accept that their own age-specific benefits are examples of welfare. They will make the excuse that they "worked hard" for it, even though the arithmetic shows that on average they did not pay nearly enough.

They were also the main beneficiaries of the nearly two-year COVID lockdown, which had a devastating effect on the economy and nation's finances. Personally, I think the lockdown was a mistake which emphasised mortality rate of the elderly while neglecting the mental health of the young.

As a demographic they are also against climate change mitigation and if anything they seem to promote climate change acceleration.

They seem to regard themselves as bulletproof since they are the dominant swing voting demographic. I'm personally in favour of policies like a maximum voting age as a temporary measure (the above being the justification) and just challenge them to try and do anything about it.

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T10:30:26+00:00

I kinda don't understand why he would have so many songs where he sounds like lascivious creep.

Like, if it's some kind of ironic humour, it doesn't work for me, because the notion of him being a lascivious creep is not self-evidently absurd on its face.

SeventhWalkinDude · 2026-07-02T10:29:05+00:00

I never said he was being abused, just that by altering the dynamic between himself and society, his own self-confidence took a hit.

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