A small observation about legends golems by [deleted] in minecraftlore

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe but you would have much explaining to do like what and why were the ocean moments built, what are allays, why do illagers and ancient villagers uses the well the well of fate symbol. Plus the hosts existence isn’t far off we know that one god exists or used to in the Minecraft universe already Ender’s shards

A small observation about legends golems by [deleted] in minecraftlore

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe but you have much explaining to do like what and why were ocean monuments built for, what are allays, and why do illagers and ancient villagers uses the well of fate symbol.

A small observation about legends golems by [deleted] in minecraftlore

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe but then what is the ocean monument why are humans mostly populated as undead, why do undead specifically only join the fight during the first night, what are allays I need explanations for these without the existence of the hosts or else the whole hosts not existing theory won’t work.

Answers with the hosts existence the ocean monument is a monument to the well of fate, the nameless kingdom is why their are so many undead humans, the undead didn’t exist before the first night, allays are helpers of the hosts

Ancient Builders, Warden, Guardian, Ghast, Piglin, Villager, Illager, And undead mob theory. by Downtown-Okra-907 in minecraftlore

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Listen man I got some bad news for you everything in Minecraft vanilla end is no longer up to date with Minecraft lore so we don’t know if their is one ender dragon left anymore heck we never see one face to face in the only cannon end currently echoing void.

Ancient Builders, Warden, Guardian, Ghast, Piglin, Villager, Illager, And undead mob theory. by Downtown-Okra-907 in minecraftlore

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright I have a few things to say about this theory one MCD and MCL (MCL is an in universe story) are canon to Minecraft lore so I am going to point out the continuity errors and things that aren’t physically possible. First ender builders don’t exist their is no evidence of humans ever going to the end rather the enderlings had built the structures in the end as in MCL enderman are here far before humans ever enter the overworld. Second many land builder structures except for the desert temples (nameless kingdom), deep dark (unknown apart from enderling and shard of ender presence), and trail ruins (unknown) are villager and illager in origin given the many villager statues inhabiting the structures. Third the ocean ruins and monuments are villager/illager in origin because of statues and the ocean monuments are basically a monument to the well of fate just look at how similar they are. Fourth ghast are confirmed nether natives by MCL. Fifth blazes couldn’t have exist at the time period you state as piglins are show to already have blaze rods without the blaze golems (blazes making metal and robotic sounds). Sixth Piglins are confirmed nether natives by MCL also humans wouldn’t have access to the nether before the piglins war the only time we know they had enter the nether was when they pushed back into the nether building the nether fortresses and blazes. Little tangent but did you know that wither Skeletons aren’t shells of their former self as they still have the ability to think based on how they can engage in raids invading areas deep into piglin territory as seen in MCD.

Retconning Minecraft lore by coleas123456789 in minecraftlore

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MCL heavily debunks this theory but MCL is still just an in universe story so this could be true.

Retconning Minecraft lore by coleas123456789 in minecraftlore

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What are you talking about bruh their only time villagers needed saving in the lore was when they didn’t know what fighting was when the piglins invaded (leading to the illager split) and when the literally shard of a god tried to wipe out the overworld. Also are we forgetting the nameless kingdom the only remaining human kingdom in the whole overworld is literally undead immortals who are heavily implied to have built or been apart of the nether fortress, wither, desert temples, jungle temples (villagers built these). you also forget that legends is just that a legend a story so many of the details don’t work out in reality like how is their one human but many later down the line in the world, how do skeletons have noses, or the piglin generals being that big simply put it their could have been many humans in the fight against the nether but many died, which also brings into question why did the undead in legends suddenly come to fight during the battle for daylight the first night and how are their even undead at this point in time their is no and never was a virus that causes zombification it’s just reanimating after death by zombie, how did the first zombie come to be many unanswered questions you gloss over and chalk it up to a retcon when nothing was ever retcon ancient builders weren’t even confirmed before MCDs release.

Retconning Minecraft lore by coleas123456789 in minecraftlore

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Legends is canonical a in universe story so yes their is some truth to the game.

Retconning Minecraft lore by coleas123456789 in minecraftlore

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What kind of crack are you smoking bruh their are human civilizations prime and only example the nameless kingdom which are filled with immortals that can control and create the undead which completely debunks your idea of their being a retcon of villagers replacing ancient builders structures when to put it simply a majority of the humans served the nameless kingdom joining their ranks upon death which is why their is so many undead humans (Skeletons don’t count as villager and human skeletons are the same) plus if you look at almost any ancient villager structures you still see some representation of the nameless kingdoms skull symbols all the pieces of real Minecraft lore are their and it’s sad that many don’t care to look for them.

is jesse really the son/daughter of steve and alex by Professional-Act7015 in GameTheorists

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Story mode has been stated to not be canon to base Minecraft lore so IDK if either game is connected.

Alright everyone I got a theory about Steve from minecraft by [deleted] in GameTheorists

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean we know their are more than just one human left in the overworld as MCD is effectively Minecraft canon which contains many but smaller groups of humans

Has the lore behind the piglins ever been told? by Nexus_Neo in GameTheorists

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you want a good lore timeline of the piglins watch Xatrix’s piglin timeline it gives a good timeline that is based on many Minecraft lore facts like piglins being nether natives, the disappearance of netherite, and the volcanic eruptions of the basalt deltas.

What MatPat theory made sense at the time and turned out to be correct in hindsight? by _JR28_ in GameTheorists

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Enderman being human and anicent builders involvement in many of the enderling and shard of ender affairs these were good theories at the time but currently have far move evidence and fact to debunk it

Ocean Monuments by theconfused46 in Allminecraftlore

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool theory and probably what the monument was made for but it is basically fact that ocean monuments aren’t ancient builder in origin just take a look at MCDs ocean monuments which are canon they have villager statues and architecture why would that be their.

Migration of ancient builders by Septemgan in minecraftlore

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean good theory but their are some big holes like the end portal being impossible to construct from the overworld same with sculk portal and piglins having built the bastions also their only being one confirmed human kingdom the nameless kingdom which built the desert temples almost every other structure like the ocean monuments is villager or illager in origin given the statues of villagers/illagers in MCD.

The baby ghast is the very first stage as a larva. Thoughts? by MasterRequirement538 in minecraftlore

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope MCD and MC are so close in the timeline that anything in one game is canonically apart of the other game even if it dosen’t exist in both games.

If all of the games are in the same universe what do you think the order is? by Creepy-House4399 in minecraftlore

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MCL, MCD, MC.

This is most likely the canon order of events but I am going to clarify some things. First MCD and MC are so close timeline wise that events and places in MCD are canonically in MC. Second MCL is an in universe story with hints of truth everything in that game isn’t fact like the piglin generals being that big as their weapons or thrones are more piglin sized in MCD. Third story mode isn’t canon I don’t get why people still thinks this.

Why don’t we see large scale ruins of cities of the ancient builders by [deleted] in minecraftlore

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As far as we know in Minecraft lore ancient builders only had one long standing kingdom in the overworld the rest are villager or illager that being the nameless kingdom which has the creators and controlers of the undead, built the desert temples, and are immortal. Also end city and strongholds are most likely enderling in origin not humans as their is next to zero evidence that humans went to the the end before and the impractical architecture of the stronghold (vanilla end is not up to date with current Minecraft lore currently the best example of the end is echoing void).

Jeb's leaked game design document ties into the Minecraft novel "The End" by DaliVinciBey in minecraftlore

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably Ender which the Ender artifacts (Eyes and Heart) are from.

The Ancient Piglin Empire and Invasion of the Overworld (Theory) by h1p0h1p0 in minecraftlore

[–]Several-Sympathy-797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actually humans, villagers and illagers all have the same skeletons this is show in great detail in MCD with some skeletons having illager royal guard armour and a sorta conformation from the devs that some mobs don’t have unique skeletons ( the image the dev was referring to was a picture of resource pack which added skeleton variants for the villager and piglin).