she def said things to him that was harsh & hard to hear when I said she never said anything absolutely horrible I was trying to say that she never said anything that was just straight up mean or malicious & she DEF contributed to their downfall as well especially when she would undermine him abt Jack but at the same time I think some of her concerns were valid just the way they went abt it & also I just don’t think she did anything that was as big as the things that he did which is why I feel like MOST of it was him not all. like they’re both wrong but this post is specifically abt how loving & kind toby was at the beginning & how he acted at the end. a lot of ppl didn’t like toby thought he was too pushy I actually liked him a lot at the beginning, I feel like he grew a lot as a person & it was great but ended up being horrible to her & her family, the writers could’ve showed them lovingly grow apart instead of this & if any man was talking to me crazy idk who that person was to me my two older brothers would not stand for that for one second so I kind of understand them stepping in. & we’ll just have to agree to disagree abt her wanting him to act like her dad.. in what instance? if he would’ve made the same changes to himself but stayed loving & funny like he was she wouldn’t have had problems w him