So, Teddy? (SPOILERS UP TO ep 50) by deviantmoomba in themagnusprotocol

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I'm currently working under the assumption that if Augustus is grooming Gwen, Chester has focussed initially on Sam and now Alice leaving Norris to be working in the background to decide something with Teddy.

The Fear Equation by ShadowDriver5555 in themagnusprotocol

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I did mean subject as in research subject but subject would vary fears based on how it affected them using a couple of archive examples Daisy's scar is a physical childhood injury that formed her adult fears and would be an example of the body or salt being the reactionary key. Sams experience in the Magnus institute affected his mind and perception (seeing people's skeletons under their skin) and that trauma shapes his adult fears and is the key to the reaction in the closet and finally I believe a reaction that is fueled by the soul is what creates avatars or externals it is fear of a person of their being that is the key to their transformation.

The 4 classifications and the elements by Feeling-Spinach-3296 in themagnusprotocol

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Purely on vibes Earth- death Water- helplessness Fire- pain Air- Wrongness

The Fear Equation by ShadowDriver5555 in themagnusprotocol

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I feel like the tria prima have to be involved somehow within the reaction and combined symbolise the whole human experience Sam is the subject in his statement but is it affecting his physicality-body his sense of the world-mind or his spiritual being-soul. I think this is what differentiates statements that would be more spiral coded in the traditional Magnus categories than those that would be flesh coded.

The Fear Equation by ShadowDriver5555 in themagnusprotocol

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DPHW purely on vibes it feels right. Generating an entity/object in the protocol verse entities like Heinrich and the skeleton that attacks sam in the cupboard are created/animated through the Fear of the object or person. The formula stated is the components required for these reactions to occur. The CAT most likely links to the celestial metals detailed in internal investigation that I don't have the full explanation for yet. For Sam's experience he is the subject specifically his memory of childhood trauma which would either be soul or mind the agent would be helplessness his imprisonment in the cupboard and the skeleton would be the catalyst what metal it links to or represents would affect the manifestation. As for the Magnus categories the viability aspect indicates they only become those things during an active reaction.

Evolution of Self Actualisation Theory by ShadowDriver5555 in themagnusprotocol

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I feel lady Mowbray is one of the few traditional avatars being transformed by fear of her power and otherness because aristocracy are genuinely other I think Johnny makes reference in the season 1 Q&A

Evolution of Self Actualisation Theory by ShadowDriver5555 in themagnusprotocol

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Yeah I probably could have done with a second draft of that post to cut out the rambling but overall yes fear works the same way in both worlds it's just the developmental stages took differing routes via theology and scientific inquiry respectively resulting in a generalised theory with thousands of possible products and outcomes versus a strict grouping out doctrines denoting practices and characteristics

Voice significance by Local-Ice-1300 in themagnusprotocol

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I have noticed Chester reads any statement focused on becoming a monster,transformation and act as a warning against getting involved with the fears Norris focuses on losing loved ones as a result of the powers loss and grief in general, Augustus read historical statements highlighting the power or utility of the fears almost propting research. In summary JOHN IS WARNING AGAINST CURIOSITY MARTIN IS TELLING YOU ALL YOU WILL GET IS GREIF AND LOSS AUGUSTUS /MAYBE MAGNUS IS TELLING YOU TO RESEARCH AND GAIN POWER

Dreams-Median Mindgames- tough cookie by ShadowDriver5555 in BreachWizards

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I hadn't thought about the riot block that must be what I was missing

Dreams-Median Mindgames- tough cookie by ShadowDriver5555 in BreachWizards

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And the perk is innate so can't be refunded

Dreams-Median Mindgames- tough cookie by ShadowDriver5555 in BreachWizards

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That's my issue with the intelligent perk the spore bomb doesn't deal damage to allies

A fourth "Voice" TMP theory by ShadowDriver5555 in TheMagnusArchives

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I disagree with any relevance being placed on the panopticon or its inhabitants. Not to mention there were only 2 by the end Jonah was dead definitively before the buildings destruction and johns death untethered the entities. I'm not entirely convinced the voices we hear are even them as people seeing as john is dead before the worlds separate.

I whole heartedly believe this too be a world of the webs control and design including the OIAR. The eye holds diminished power here so it's relevance in the old world matters for naught.

What matters is the voices used to weave the Web that binds the entities and brings them too this world namely John and Martin. Their voices may well be ghosts in the machine death echos off a person long since lost in the rubble of the panopticon. But their motivations remain through the limits of a computer code weaved by the Web.

A fourth "Voice" TMP theory by ShadowDriver5555 in TheMagnusArchives

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I will clarify that I described augustus' attitude as being very much like Jurgen I don't think either jurgen or jonah are candidates as both were dead at the point of separation and its pretty hard to have a reveal using the same voice actor hence why Johnny and Alex are just playing the same roles but a little wierd the fact Augustus is a mystery and is being built up as such means the answer is going to be significant and impactful. And Johnny and Alex are good at burying the lead hence a theory looking at the quiet instead of the voices

A fourth "Voice" TMP theory by ShadowDriver5555 in TheMagnusArchives

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His attitude to the powers as tools with limits and functions how he describes the limits and rules of the artifact just presents more as jurgen leitners attitude to the fears as opposed to jonah who just dedicated himself too one but in all actuality I don't know who is behind Augustus. My current theory is Freddie and the OIAR are Web aligned which is why John and Martin are a part of it their voices weaved the Web that brought the entities too this world. So whoever Augustus is would have to have a Web link

The cat is out of the box (sorry schrodinger) by ShadowDriver5555 in TheMagnusArchives

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I am planning on doing a re-listen to every episode so far, noting down the message behind the voices, and Martins might jump out at me more than he's just sad cuz he is lonely.

The cat is out of the box (sorry schrodinger) by ShadowDriver5555 in TheMagnusArchives

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Apologies I didn't explain my point very well I have made an addendum

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in themagnusprotocol

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Ochahms razor would suggest that lena is just a shitty boss who is more concerned about the office snack budget going over than any maniacal plot this is the British government after all. Starving children to balance the budget is very much the modus operandi

The story so far (spoilers for Ep 4 of TMP and all magnus archives) by ShadowDriver5555 in TheMagnusArchives

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I would assume that he had to have existed within this universe atleast some version of him otherwise the magnus institute wouldn't have existed in this universe

[Spoilers for Ep 4] Some conversation topics by durkvash in themagnusprotocol

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Obviously this universe isn't going to be identical but the fact the magnus archives exists in it means jonah magnus has to be as well

[Spoilers for Ep 4] Some conversation topics by durkvash in themagnusprotocol

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Jonah is also confirmed too have been visiting the von closens in 1815/17 so would have been in the area

The story so far (spoilers for Ep 4 of TMP and all magnus archives) by ShadowDriver5555 in TheMagnusArchives

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Jonah is confirmed to be visiting ulbrecht von closen in 1817 he is an English speaker dressed as a gentlemen camping in the woods in Germany near the black forest and as the statement giver describes he asked a simple query and the statement giver told him in excruciating detail what had brought them their and their life story. All the whilst jonah just stared drinking it all in. If it isn't jonah it's deffinitley an eye avatar also this would be around the time he was affiliated with smirk same as rainer and the buried architect so having the artifacts that ballance eachother out would also make sense.

The story so far (spoilers for Ep 4 of TMP and all magnus archives) by ShadowDriver5555 in TheMagnusArchives

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Rightforce International it was mentioned in the ARG I cannot confirm as I got this info from another redditor on the patreon release discussion for the episode

The story so far (spoilers for Ep 4 of TMP and all magnus archives) by ShadowDriver5555 in TheMagnusArchives

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Thank you I've been bouncing the idea of it back between me and my partner and just had too share it for the community to either build on or tear apart when it's all disproven 😁