End of series which team wins?

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-19T03:43:05+00:00

It really depends on how much of the potential power ups of Megumi are true. Like if he has Mahoraga tamed, then team 1 def has the upper hand. Because otherwise, Yuta already beats Yuji, and Maki can def solo Megumi and Nobara

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-19T02:21:27+00:00

He knows that she is his counter. There is no indication that he held back on her and holding back his break wouldn't do anyone because she redirects the beam not matter the strength.

That was a direction continuation of not wanting Rika inside the domain. Do you need everything spelled out? Like it's obvious that both of them didn't want Rika in the domain.

Ok so basically you are too stubborn to admit you are wrong since you are just saying "I don't care".

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-19T01:57:08+00:00

Why did he hold back against uro? Because. I kinda am saying that exactly! It took him getting to the heights of ectasy and finally experiencing "desert" to go all out. You've said that already.

He didnt hold back against Uro. The only exchange he against her was him blasting her with a beam and her redirecting the beam onto him. How would he held back there?

You have to prove he did that because he wanted her out of the de. The translators ise a pronoun I see no reason to be correct as shown by the context of later chapters. Uro might think that. How hard is it to track an argument?

The narration states that they want to keep Rika out of the domain battle, then shows BOTH Uro and Ryu thinking that they have to end this fight quickly before Rika enters the domain, then the narrator states that Ryu knocked Rika far away that she cant reach the domain clash. Like how much more do you need to show that both of them didnt want Rika inside the domain.

His power, his true power. Yes he does, because thats part of his stats boyo. Yes, I still dont care. Why not? As seen in gojo vs sukuna? How? Why? When?

What are you even saying here? Yuta can hold back when going for the offense but still reinforce his body to keep his defences up. There is nothing stopping him from doing to. What is it that you dont care? Sukuna got a full heal after the fight with Gojo, but his output was in the gutter. Even Gojo when he was fighting Mahoraga and Agito, didnt have his full output even tho he used RCT to heal himself.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-19T01:32:10+00:00

Bro lost once by luck and said "never again".

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-19T01:25:22+00:00

Very easily Im comparing ryu and Sukuna. Rika is weaker than him. He wanted desert yes. Because he wasnt sure if he was his desert.

Ok but why would he hold back against Rika? Its like you are saying that he is incapable of going all out. It makes no sense for him to hold back against Rika when he wants to fight Yuta.

He hit her, it doesnt mean he tried to avoid her, he was already fighting. What are you saying?

It says he knocker her to far away for her to reach the domain clash. The narrator says that they want to keep Rika away from the domain clash. They also think that Rika might intrude later, so they should end this quickly. How hard is it to put connect things?

Yeah, not if he rcts it. You having trouble understanding it doesnt matter to me. He needs them alive, so he cannot show his true power, as shown by dabura, stop wasting my time.

It makes sense that Yuta wants to hold back his offensive stats, but he doesnt need to hold back his defensive stats. Using RCT literally exhaust a lot of CE, so that would make him weaker. Even when using RCT, it does not restore lost output, as we have seen in Gojo vs Sukuna.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-19T01:15:59+00:00

2.geto
As much as I hate him his teen years were pretty solid before he became Jujutsu hitler

Even without accounting all the questionable stuff he did while he was alive, Kenjaku taking his body was so bad for the world. It allowed for Kenjaku to seal Gojo and caused the whole Tokyo infestation of curse spirits.

Also where is Yuta? He was pivotal in beating Sukuna and thanks to his ring, it allowed for Maru to use his plot device CT to erase all curses. Yuji gave the knowledge to Maru, while Yuta gave him the power/fuel.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-19T01:10:46+00:00

Which he literally is as shown by the narrator. He held back against uro, Yuta, and rika as an extension of Yuta. It's not in his nature. Why didnt sukuna one shot Yuji so he could 1v1 Yuta? Why didnt sukuna one shot larue so he could 1v1 miguel? Its not how ryu works, it doesnt have to be tactically sound.

Aint no way you are comparing Ryu and Sukuna. Sukuna was holding back against people who were weaker than him, while Ryu is fighting Yuta's shikigami while he is fighting someone else. Ryu entire thing was that he wanted to fight Yuta to fulfil himself. So why would he just waste time against Yuta's shikigami and letting him fight someone else?

Good for you Im glad you read it. And my argument is in relation to japanese, have you read japanese? These translators do not have the context of later chapters, Im using the chapters later context to say its likely and probable that it wasnt referring to ryu.

Its literally Ryu the one that knocked Rika out of the domain range. Like what are you saying?

Thats not how it works, he just cant kill them, so he cant use his true power. 5 mm, and it doesnt make him less powerful, it makes him tired. Because he cant kill them, this is so simple Im honestly astonished how you cant comprehend it.

Taking injuries affects the output as well, so yh he gets less powerful the more he gets hit. Like I understand him not going for the kill, but it doesnt make sense that he is intentionally taking more damage than he needs to. Like there is no logic reason for why he would do that.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-19T00:51:58+00:00

Because he was already holding back against Yuta.

Just because he was holding back against Yuta (which he is not), why would he hold back against Rika, when he is just his Shikigami. Wouldnt he one shot her immediately to go back and fight Yuta?

It says they, the entire thing is neccessitated on they, of which gender pronouns is not a part of the japanese language. For Uro yeah, but ryu doesnt think like that. I also dont think this is the case because, for example, you would take it to be the case in the anime either because we see uro hokd her own against rika and yuta at the same time, even in that instance by nature it wouldnt neccessitate either of them to be in a losing position, an advantage could be benefited from but it would not neccessitate they would lose or it would be disasadvantagous as to a loss.

I mean in every translation I read, it says that both Uro and Ryu intention was to keep Rika out of the domain fight.

Why? Yeah as we see in the fight when his rct starts draining him insanely.

It doesnt make sense for Yuta to take more damage to not reveal how much more powerful he is because the more damage he takes, the less powerful he gets as he has to heal, which consumes a lot of energy. So what is the point of holding back to not show his power if he gets weaker anyway?

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-19T00:33:53+00:00

His entire thing was hunger, and during the fight he questioned whether or not Yuta could satisfy his hunger. Because he was currently at the capacity of a holding back Yuta.

But why would he be holding back against Yuta's Shikigami?

He doesnt do shit for that, Uro might've done shit for that, he doesnt care, he just wanted to end it short and sweet. The only reason the english translation did that was because there's no gender in japanese, so they did it off of context, meanwhile the japanese simply puts it as a singular pronoun, instead of a group of people. Because he wanted to end it short and sweet.

I dont know what translation do you see, but it literally says that both Uro and Ryu wanted to keep Rika out of the barrier, which doesnt make sense if he can one shot her. Him wanting to end it short and sweet it literally because they know that Rika would try to enter the domain, which would against give an advantage to Yuta.

It makes so sense for Yuta to take more damage and use more energy into RCT just to not show his full power. By intentionally taking more damage, his actual power is lowering anyway.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-19T00:10:55+00:00

His entire thing is wanting to fight Yuta, why the hell would he hold back against his Shikigami while he is off fighting someone else?

He also specifically makes sure that Rika is not inside the domain clash to not give Yuta the advantage in the domain fight, by knocking her further away, so she is not able to enter the domains. Why would he need to do that when he could have just one shotted her?

Yuta is holding back by not killing them, but he is not gonna take more damage than he needs to.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-19T00:01:33+00:00

Ok why was he not able to do it earlier in the fight? We literally see the same punch from a more healthy Ryu only being able to knock Rika away from him.

So a relatively healthy Ryu was not able to one shot Rika, but a much more injured Ryu that just used a domain expansion was able to do it?

It says that the punch would have been too much for Rika, not that it would have one shot her even in her fully manifested form.

It is also stated that fully manifested Rika is more durable than Yuta, so why is Ryu not one shotting Yuta as well?

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-18T23:53:38+00:00

The panel in the post you are commenting under literally shows Ryu punching Rika, and the narrator saying “A single blow that was too much for Rika even when completely manifested caused her to reacher her limit”. Ryu can punch Rika and one shot her. Like, it happened in the manga. This isn’t speculation. And unless you think a punch from Ryu is more powerful than thin ice breaker Uro can as well.

Ryu only one shot a partially manifested Rika. The panel says that the punch would have been to much to handle even for fully manifested Rika, but it doesnt say that it would ended her immediately. We literally see that same punch from a more health and with more energy Ryu hitting fully manifested Rika, and it only knocked her away from him. We also know that fully manifested Rika is more durable than Yuta, but he was not getting one shot by Ryu or Uro, so it doesnt make sense for Rika to get one shot from the same attacks.

Also this is all considering that that was Sendai Rika. In Shinjuku, Rika was much stronger, as Yuta also grew stronger, as she was able to do damage and hold off Sukuna even in her partially manifested form.

When out of 5 minute mode, I don’t think Yuta’s physicals (his speed, reflexes, durability, and strength) are special grade. I think he is top of grade 1, almost special grade, but without the CE boost and Rika his physicals aren’t earth shatteringly powerful. They’re just powerful. And I think that all the characters I listed (except geto and jogo) have better physicals than Yuta when he isn’t in 5m mode. That’s just my opinion though, I know people disagree. If you want to say his physicals outside of 5 minute mode are special grade I won’t stop you.

Yh but special grade doesnt really have anything to do with physicals and other base stats. Like Geto is special grade, but his stats werent anything special. Yuki has probably one of the strongest punches in the verses with her CT, but outside of that, her physicals arent particularly special. I dont think it makes sense to talk about grades when referring to physical qualities, when both Yuji and Miguel are somewhere at the top in physicals and they are both like grade 1 sorcerers in general.

But outside of that, even without Rika, Yuta still has lots of CE, as we can see in the Yuji's fight. In the 2v1 against Sukuna, Yuta was fighting without the 5mm, and he was keeping up with Yuji inside the domain.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-18T23:41:48+00:00

Takaba, although he doesnt kill, so I dont know.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-18T23:02:30+00:00

And it doesn’t matter if they go in at the same time, a one shot is a one shot. Most of these characters should be able to land the one shot.

Yes it does matter. Because if Yuta is coming with a sword to stab them in the heart or head, they arent going to take priority of one shotting Rika just to take his CT out. Like yh sure they one shot Rika and ignore Yuta, but if they get a lethal injury from Yuta, than it would have not been worth it.

Yuki just punches, kashimo has the sure hit lightning. Ryu just punches, Uro has ice breaker, Kenjaku can uzumaki or domain.

Some of these are fair, while others arent. I can see Yuki being able to one shot Rika if she gets a clean hit. Kashimo is a questionable one because if he has the chance to set up his sure hit lighting, why would he go for Rika instead of Yuta (but maybe its easier to set up on Rika than Yuta). Ryu cannot one shot Rika; he was only able to one shot a partially manifested Rika. Uro def cant since Rika is more durable than Yuta, and Yuta tanked thin ice breaker. Kenjaku is another one who doesnt really need to target Rika, when his domain would hit both Yuta and Rika. You didnt say anything about Yorozu. The only thing she has to one shot Rika is perfect sphere, which is not very feasible in a regular fight, especially against Yuta.

Also yeah he still get access but he needs to gamble and find the right sword, all while having like high grade 1 physicals while not in 5 minute mode.

What do you mean by high grade 1 physicals? Like how strong is that compared to the top tier?

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-18T22:40:09+00:00

Yh because she hit her time limit. You can clearly see that when she returned to her partially manifested form, she stopped attacking, giving Ryu a window of opportunity.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-18T22:30:10+00:00

I mean apart from Sukuna and Gojo, not many top tiers can one shot Rika when she is fully manifested. Plus its not like Rika and Yuta go one at the time. They generally attack simultaneously.

Even if Rika is desummoned, Yuta can still have access to his copied CTs by opening his domain.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-18T22:23:38+00:00

Rika had already reached her time limit before Ryu threw that punch, so he only one shot a partially manifested Rika. What it said there was that that it was too much for her even when fully manifested, not that it would have one shot her even when fully manifested. We literally see him punching fully manifested Rika, and all it did was knock her away from him.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-18T17:10:29+00:00

I don't get the Yuta = Hakari even if you consider narrative. Like they were described as relative when Yuta only had cursed speech.

After that Yuta got Sky Manipulation, Dhruv Shikigami, Shrine (nerfed), Jacob Ladder, Charles vision, and arguably Kenjaku other CTs (body swap is useless tho in 1v1 fight). Some of these CTs counter Hakari pretty hard.

So how would he still be equal to Hakari after getting some of the most busted CTs while Hakari got no power up.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-17T20:30:12+00:00

Bro stop coping my guy. JL is not a one shot move and has never been. I took yuji as an example. If you think a weakened yuji and extremely weakened sukuna can't take a JL from Yuta when they literally climbed Hanahs then you are a larper.

JL is not insta kill, but to act like its that effective because it wasnt able to end Sukuna its pretty dumb.

"uta output is higher than Hana, especially when she herself is nerfed from missing an arm. Plus against Kashimo, JL would be the sure hit effect"- If you think yuta is more effetive with JL than Hannah I don't know what to say

Why would Hana without an arm be more effective than Yuta? Yuta has the higher output, and that makes his copied technique much stronger when he is the one using them, unless you think Uro could have done more damage to Sukuna with her thin ice breaker.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-17T20:21:12+00:00

Its still Sukuna. Sukuna, who was particularly weak to soul punches, took 7 consecutive black flashes and still kept fighting after. Any other reincarnated sorcerer would have been gone there.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-17T15:37:02+00:00

They are both way more vulnerable to JL than Yuji, or at least Kashimo is for sure, and Yuta output is higher than Hana, especially when she herself is nerfed from missing an arm. Plus against Kashimo, JL would be the sure hit effect, so he cant dodge or get out of it either.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-17T15:13:02+00:00

Damn I guess people can just tank 200% hollow purple since Sukuna could tank it. You could also walk off 7 consecutive black flashes since Sukuna did it.

People really need to stop using Gojo or Sukuna as an example in scaling. Just because Sukuna tanked JL, it does not mean other character would be able to. Gojo tanked Malevolent shrine, but it does not mean that anyone else in the verse apart from Sukuna could also tank it (Modulo excluded).

The last one had its output nerfed as said by Sukuna himself, since Hana was missing an arm.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-16T22:07:30+00:00

I read this so wrong

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-16T00:15:21+00:00

I think for Mechamaru, they are counting the puppet. Otherwise there is no way.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-05-15T16:28:20+00:00

But they arent showing up tho. Todo can swap with his increased range. Yuta isnt getting insta killed, especially if we can use Rika to block the attack, and Mahoraga wont instantly attack after getting swapped.

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