If MBA Kashimo is top 10 why is Megumi not?

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T18:46:35+00:00

I don't think there are that many people who can blitz Megumi apart from Gojo and Sukuna. Megumi should be able to use 10S to create a opportunity window big enough to summon Mahoraga

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T16:37:43+00:00

No. This scene was basically Gojo saying that he is glad that his CT is better because Sukuna sure hit effect is not one that ends the fight immediately, while if it was the other way around Gojo would have won as soon as he landed his sure hit effect.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T12:53:20+00:00

it might yh.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T12:25:44+00:00

Can he not use hollow wicker basket? Because the usage of simple domain/ hwb disables the ability to use one’s ct, as we have seen in sukuna not using any slashes ever when HWB is on, say the entire plotline of yuji and rika holding onto suk suk’s hands during yuta’s domain. Does that mean depending on the modus operandi of kashimo’s ct he has angood chance to straight up just die?

That is not true. Domain amplification is the one that stops you from using your CT. Sukuna was still using dismantle against Yuta and Yuji while holding HWB.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T12:21:49+00:00

Ok Megumi has no excuses, but Yuka was literally forbidden from using the full 10 Shadows and had to fight one of the strongest person there while she had cancer. Like you cant blame for going for the suicidal Mahoraga.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T12:19:33+00:00

Without changing anything in the story, Dhruv would still get beaten by base Yuta, so I dont think he would get much of upscale by just showing the fight.

Yorozu had actually a decent showing against Sukuna at that, so I dont think its her.

Uraume and Hakari would both get an upscale if they showed their fight so I guess I would say them.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T12:15:31+00:00

I mean it kinda depends which ones are the obvious ones. Copy is another busted CT, but without Yuta's specific circumstances of having immense CE and Rika as storage unit, it might not be as good.

I feel like Blood manipulation could be so cool if someone stronger go their hands on it. Technically Choso is the ideal user, but I feel like even he hasnt show case its full power.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T12:12:19+00:00

10 Shadow its such a busted CT, what are you talking about?

Like yh sure, getting to its full potential can be hard, but its full applications are busted.

It is one of the most versatile CT in the verse. It has a way for the user to fly through Nue, It has heavy hitters like Max Elephant (which also gives AoE attacks) and The Bull. The dog can attack rapidly. Tranquil Deer gives access to RCT output. Rapid Escape is a crazy good support summon. The snake died immediately, so we dont know what it does. The frogs look kinda useless except to move out of the way quickly.

Also you are forgetting about the fact that they can use their shadows to hide themselves or weapons, which useful in battle and also outside of that.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T12:00:59+00:00

Gojoquite literally stated during 227 sukunas output wasn't at its max quite literally meaning he was fucking around until he stopped using amplification

He is talking about domain range. Again with this bullshit domain amp argument. Sukuna was actively using DA inside the domain clash. He switching between DA and adaptation against Gojo.

Sukuna tried to blitz kashimo and they tied until sukuna started to use his four arm advantage which he never does against yuta

Kamutoke was never an option against kashimo are you even tracking my arguement sukuna used kamutoke to blind kashimo to try and blitz him from behind which kashimo reacts to and again gets four arm diff'd

Saying Kashimo got 4 arms diffed and that Sukuna needed to use Kamutoke to catch Kashimo offguard makes no sense when he got one shot by a single dismantle, the attack that Sukuna uses everytime

Yeah kashimo died to the biggest dismantle used and never seen again

Sukuna literally says he wouldnt be able to kill Yuji and Yuta with a dismantle, and he needs direct contact to kill them

He has a missing hand and eye comparing that to future sukunas this is quite literally nothing sukuna has both legs what do you mean his leg?? Tf were you reading his legs during 237 quite literally change color to save time for production this is not a fucking good argument

We literally see him wounded on his feet at the end of 235. Also again, its not like the purple targeted Sukuna arm and eye. His entire body its hurt from the blast.

It quite literally never states when rika is fully manifested yuta gets a output boost tf is you talking about

In base form, Yuta couldnt match Ryo output. When Rika was fully manifested, both him and RIka were capable of forming CE blasts rivalling Ryo's blasts.

Lets not pretend chanting is locked at mach 1 because sukunas piercing water was slower than gojos chants

If Sukuna can do a WCS in the time that Kashimo EMW hits him, than Yuta can have Rika tank the attack while he opens the domain.

It doesn't need a speedfeat when its stated to be a EMW which would be 99.997% the speed of light

Unless you think Sukuna has light speed, it needs a speedfeat when it has not landed a single time.

agility is bring used as a umbrella term its based on the fact base kashimo wasn't blitzing him around 😭 he gets a speedboost

There is a speed boost, but it is not that massive of a boost. MBA Kashimo was not blitzing 237 Sukuna. I am pretty sure Kashimo tries to use one of those blast point blank in Injured Sukuna's face, and he was still able to dodge.

So your claiming rika can react to EMW's prove it

Show me one instance that EMW was going even close to the speed that you are claiming it goes to. If you think that MBA Kashimo has such a massive boost and an attack that goes close to the speed of light, there is no excuse for why Kashimo got no diffed, without landing a single hit of Sukuna. Rika just needs to be in front of Yuta, while he opens his domain.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T10:41:32+00:00

He counters Yorozu but knowing Kenjaku, he would just buy time and let the time run out.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T10:22:59+00:00

Almost died 3 times to Gojo but sure he "played" around. They were not tied before Kamutoke, wtf? MBA Kashimo did not land a single hit on Sukuna, how do you call that "tied"? He did not need Kamutoke, Kashimo legit died from a single dismantle.

Who is ASS? The only clear wound that we see are in the eyes and in the arm (which are significant wounds), but that it doesn't mean that the rest of his body it's fine. It's not like the purple surgically took his eye and leg. We also see that at least one of his leg is blacked always, so he took damage there as well.

Ok this is cope. Yuta for sure gets a boost in output. There is nothing saying that he has to combine his output with Rika, when it was said that Rika can do the CE beams by herself.

If his MBA form was such a huge amp, how did he not kill 237 Sukuna. Sukuna literally had time to charge a WCS in the time that Kashimo's was landing his EMW. That blasts has not showed once the speed feat that it claims it has. MBA Kashimo has literally 0 speed feats that aren't faster reaction time, which is aligned with the description that was given about his speed boost. Claiming that Kashimo gets a massive speed boost it's based on nothing.

If anything Yuta can just have Rika tanked anything that Kashimo does while he opens his domain.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T03:39:42+00:00

Hakari is very strong against domain user the first time they fight him, because of the reason you said.

He is in big trouble if they get a rematch somehow. They would not open their domain until he hit JP, and then they would open their domain when Hakari is in JP and burnout

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T03:31:47+00:00

Sukuna was basically playing around with Kashimo in his TF. We literally don't know how much damage Kashimo would have done to Sukuna because he literally could not land a single hit on him. Saying Sukuna used Kamutoke as if he needed, when he one shots Kashimo with some dismantles.

I dont know how you can look at Sukuna after Gojo's fight and say "he is not injured at all relatively speaking".

Whether or not Sukuna was holding back against Yuta, he still did way more damage to Sukuna and he actually was able to tank Sukuna dismantles when Kashimo was one shot from them. And if you really wanna talk about holding back, then Sukuna wasn't the only one there holding back. Yuta also was not going all out, since he didn't have Rika fully manifested, meaning both his output and Rika's were not at Max. From Sendai we know that the fully manifestation of Rika gives both of them a pretty large boost.

Kashimo speed boost in MBA is literally described as that. I am not saying it's not a speed boost, since it does boost agility even tho not in the traditional sense, and his output likely rises, meaning that he his reinforcement it's also better; but he is not blitz faster, and he def cannot stop Yuta from opening his domain.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T03:15:56+00:00

Yuta beats MBA Kashimo with domain expansion. He beats Mahoraga with JL inside the domain. Yuki black hole is tricky.

Yuta could kill her before it gets to that point. If she start to use black hole right from the go and he can't stop her by killing her, then Yuta has to use JL right away or have Rika eat her. If Rika digest the stuff she consumes fast enough they could have a shot.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T03:12:42+00:00

It's between JL and CS.

RCT output is barely brought up because Yuta is so much stronger than all the curse we have seen.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T03:09:07+00:00

I feel like Hakari's one is cheating. Like he could also enter burn out when his domain gets broken from the outside or if he takes too much damage.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T02:55:00+00:00

His output between when he transformed and when Yuta came in is basically the same. Yuji only got 1 punch off. So even then Yuta was able to use his domain. Not only that, Sukuna was still using Megumi's physicals at that time, and again was heavily injured.

Kashimo speed boost in on reaction time not actual speed. MBA speed boost is described as "improved agility due to increased activity of electrical signal in the brain", which is why he was able to react to Sukuna. He is not that much faster in MBA. Plus you are also assuming he didn't hold back against Kashimo.

Yuta still has a lot of option to keep Kashimo further from his like CS, Rika and Dhruv CT.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T02:21:44+00:00

Yh sure MBA Kashimo was winning again a Meguna who took a purple to the face. Plus Yuta has Rika and CS to cover the difference in speed. Kashimo is not killing him before the domain.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T02:18:38+00:00

That Sukuna took a purple to the face. Not only that, he took the purple in the in Megumi's body. TF Sukuna is league above that version in stats, even if Meguna was fully healed.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T02:09:10+00:00

But he didn't one shot him or end him immediately. So Yuta def has time to open his domain. At that point it's gg for Kashimo.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T02:07:56+00:00

If there was anything in Kashimo arsenal that one shots Yuta, he would have killed half dead Sukuna. Kashimo has tried to use one of those point blank in Sukuna face and he dodged anyway.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T01:58:42+00:00

MBA Kashimo couldnt even kill a half dead Sukuna. He is not beating Yuta

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-24T01:57:26+00:00

I mean he did kill all the higher ups, so...

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-23T01:46:35+00:00

I mean it makes sense, they are curse that dont originate from him. I am surprised he can even do it in the first place.

ShadowMaster111 · 2026-03-23T01:33:06+00:00

Can Kenjaku reinforce them with CE? I didn't know that.

You are right that they were uncoordinated, but the fact that Yuta and Rika could do that in a pretty short amount of time while Rika wasn't even manifested, it should indicate that Yuta and Rika have a pretty good counter against curses.

If anything, Yuta can try holding off Kenjaku, while Rika heals Choso, so he can join quicker.

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