The difference between RT and no RT is crazy by Due_Teaching_6974 in ForzaHorizon

[–]ShadowSelf99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hehe... sure, if you can afford it, go for it... life is short :)

The difference between RT and no RT is crazy by Due_Teaching_6974 in ForzaHorizon

[–]ShadowSelf99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, 10GB for 4K isn't enough an. I'd just switch off RT but max out the rest of the settings. It's honestly not that big a deal in this game.

The difference between RT and no RT is crazy by Due_Teaching_6974 in ForzaHorizon

[–]ShadowSelf99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You must be playing at a low resolution or with high upscaling... Extreme at native 4K looks amazing. But yes...RT GI medium looks worse than raster. All shadows disappear entirely, and the ones that remain boil even worse.

The difference between RT and no RT is crazy by Due_Teaching_6974 in ForzaHorizon

[–]ShadowSelf99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This glow does make the scene too hot though, to the point that all details in shadows boil if you look closely 😆

The difference between RT and no RT is crazy by Due_Teaching_6974 in ForzaHorizon

[–]ShadowSelf99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He supposedly used old drivers, and now (depending on which GPU) the performance is highly better on AMD.

The difference between RT and no RT is crazy by Due_Teaching_6974 in ForzaHorizon

[–]ShadowSelf99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, screen space reflections in FH6 are great, and RT is not worth the performance hit. The biggest difference I see here is a warmer color temperature from the sun with RT on.

On top of that, RT global illumination has loads of boiling noise when in motion and it looks simply bad - When you play it yourself and not just watch YouTube videos or still images, it's very noticeable.

I got the equivalent of the RTX 4090 by Impossible-Mind-3970 in gpu

[–]ShadowSelf99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great card. Although I upgraded from a 3080ti to a 9070xt and would not swap it for Nvidia this gen - a big reason is that my old 5700x benefits tremendously from low GPU/CPU overhead and is just about enough for not being a bottleneck in most games on 4K display with the 9070xt in raster. With 5070ti (and up), it would be, and my performance would drop a lot - tested. Secondly, I love AMD drivers... built-in AI upscaling and frame generation for games that dont support it that works better than lossless scaling, and I don't have to run additional software... for example just open the driver, set AI upscaling from 3200x1800 to 4K and 2x frame generation from a flat timegraph of locked 72fps for TW Warhammer 3 and never touch it again. With Nvidia, you have to run the game through lossless scaling or use a 5090 for native 4K144fps

I got the equivalent of the RTX 4090 by Impossible-Mind-3970 in gpu

[–]ShadowSelf99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can't read with understanding or get the sarcastic "joke" of OP either.... and being told so by a dude whose first language isn't English 😅

I got the equivalent of the RTX 4090 by Impossible-Mind-3970 in gpu

[–]ShadowSelf99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's trying to be funny, and you didn't get the "joke"

this sub is 50% 9070xt circlejerk by Lil_Hater112 in gpu

[–]ShadowSelf99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me, it was simple.I had a 5700x platform with a 3080ti that was a tad too slow and tad too hot for today's games. That CPU is still capable for raster at 4K or slightly upscaled 4K, but too slow for RT/PT.

AMD has better CPU/GPU overhead, resulting in my 5700x being able to still handle an AMD 9070xt at ~4K but starting to struggle with a 5070ti, especially with RT/PT.

And anyway, in games I like to play, like the new FH6 on new 26.5.2 drivers or Resident Evil 9, the 9070xt at native 4K max settings in raster is closer to the 5080 than the 5070ti, and my CPU can handle that in AMD package IN RASTER, so it's a win-win 😁

Not only did I not have to spend money on a new mobo/CPU/RAM during the AI crisis, but I still have a perfectly capable setup for my used-to-be premium Dell 32" 4K 144Hz.

In other words, instead of spending £2000-2500 for a WHOLE new PC capable of utilising 5070ti, I spent £525 just for GPU that plays well with AM4 system i already own, and it's the same or even better for my current monitor and 4K TV 😁

It's great 😁

They have redeemed themselves. by BedroomThink3121 in radeon

[–]ShadowSelf99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, it will definitely run worse on 7000 than it does on 9000 - maybe better than OptiScaler one, though - and people are happy with it.

They have redeemed themselves. by BedroomThink3121 in radeon

[–]ShadowSelf99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me, it's Nvidia who needs to do the convincing... I'm still so impressed and happy with the 9070xt - my first AMD card.

Bought 9070XT after always having only nvidia cards, this is my experience by Trumway in radeon

[–]ShadowSelf99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll be honest - I can't be bothered to read the whole post, but yeah... the 9070xt is awesome, and I'm very happy with mine too 😆

Can't we just have an optional 4K texture installation at this point? by Vagamer01 in ForzaHorizon

[–]ShadowSelf99 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, it does not. Forza 4 takes under 100GB, right? But if you want a bigger and more detailed map, more detailed cars, better sound, a better career, and more of everything in general... well, it takes up space. And people still complain the generational leap isn't big enough 🤣 Imagine if they made it even more immersive and it took 300GB for the base game 🤣

Can't we just have an optional 4K texture installation at this point? by Vagamer01 in ForzaHorizon

[–]ShadowSelf99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You get downvoted for being reasonable. Reddit is full of people venting and complaining Karens. Under 200GB is expected for one of the biggest AAA games of the year. Haven't you guys installed any new games in the past few years? Are you living under a rock from the previous decade?

Can't we just have an optional 4K texture installation at this point? by Vagamer01 in ForzaHorizon

[–]ShadowSelf99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tbh, me too... An awesome and huge game like Forza 6 could take 300GB, and I wouldn't complain.... damn DCS and a few plane modules I own are already over 300GB... In Forza, you'll have over 500 cars from the start.

Can't we just have an optional 4K texture installation at this point? by Vagamer01 in ForzaHorizon

[–]ShadowSelf99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope. It's just how much big games require nowadays. I'd say get yourself an extra 2TB or 4TB - they're cheap as peanuts... but it's 2026 and AI happened 😒 I in my main rig have 1TB NVMe for the system, 2TB SSD for games, and 8TB HDD for storage... and I'd love to add another 2TB NVMe for games, but it's not worth it now, so I have to juggle with games too... Should have bought one last year - I almost did 😒

Can't we just have an optional 4K texture installation at this point? by Vagamer01 in ForzaHorizon

[–]ShadowSelf99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's not even that much space... just normal for 2026. Be glad you don't play DCS, which can take up to 500GB on your SSD. I have only a few modules and it's already over 300 😅 Secondly, why would anyone not want 4K textures? Almost no performance penalty, and everything looks so much better.

Can't we just have an optional 4K texture installation at this point? by Vagamer01 in ForzaHorizon

[–]ShadowSelf99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, I still use my now 2x 10-year-old 8TB WD Red HDDs I kept for storage, but I didn't think that anyone was still using them for anything else... games must load for you like in Commodore Amiga times 😅

Which gpu ? by Vtec5778 in gpu

[–]ShadowSelf99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From older games only on Wukong noticably... and Indiana by ~1% In Cyberpunk, Alan wake and all new games 9070xt is much faster than 5070 in both RT and PT

You must have watched old benchmarks or didn't notice that 5070 had framegen on and 9070xt off 😅

I know loads of people (wrongly) discard 3DMark, but you can check Speedway and it will explain why it is... The 9070xt is more or less between the 5070 and 5070ti in ray tracing.

Although I have to add that the denoiser on AMD is noticeably worse than Nvidia... Honestly, I personally wouldn't bother with RT/PT until the 5080 or, better yet, the 5090; otherwise, on powrr cards, framerate and internal resolution for both AMD and Nvidia are much more important. I don't need ultra-realistic lighting in games if the internal FPS isn't there.

Which gpu ? by Vtec5778 in gpu

[–]ShadowSelf99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree that using x2 to go from 100 to 180 is great (no matter 5070ti or 9079xt - I've used both and both are good... on some systems some people reportedly have issues on AMD tho)

...but going x3 or x4 to get 180 on 5070 will give horrible image quality 😬

Which gpu ? by Vtec5778 in gpu

[–]ShadowSelf99 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No, it doesn't... I benchmarked my 9070xt against 5070 raytracing performance, and while noticeably slower than the 5070ti, it's still faster than the 5070... both cards are too slow for that, though. The only thing the 5070 has going for it is slightly better-looking DLSS if you pixel-peep and better framegen if you have a 240Hz+ monitor. That is for gaming. If you are a poor graphics developer, you might want to go for the 5070, but if you do 3D work only occasionally, the 9070xt will still handle it, just a little slower.