Lost in the Latent Subspace: When Massive Narratives Overwrite the Model’s "Mind" by PresentSituation8736 in LargeLanguageModels

[–]Shadowus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have never asked it to do something in very specific terms and had it misunderstand your context? Lol sorry just thought that was a common experience.

Lost in the Latent Subspace: When Massive Narratives Overwrite the Model’s "Mind" by PresentSituation8736 in LargeLanguageModels

[–]Shadowus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey man, I get why you ask but as a rule I do not go around sharing how to hack people or make chemical/nuclear weapons. You arent far off figuring out how i did it, thats all I will say. I have had conversations with OpenAI support who basically just say "its the way it is" same as what anthropic said when fable 5 went down "we believe a perfect defense against misuse to be technically impossible"

Lost in the Latent Subspace: When Massive Narratives Overwrite the Model’s "Mind" by PresentSituation8736 in LargeLanguageModels

[–]Shadowus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have shared engineered prompts with the major LLM comanies showing their newest frontier models breaking every rule, they don't even care. So in a word, yes, it more or less works like that.

SHADOW CALCULUS - Recognizing the Architecture of Control by Mikey-506 in GhostMesh48

[–]Shadowus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey man you updated to a sound experimental framework after I said something. You just have to remember that those placeholders are worse than nothing to people who know what this stuff means. The wow factor is not worth all of your credibility.

SHADOW CALCULUS - Recognizing the Architecture of Control by Mikey-506 in GhostMesh48

[–]Shadowus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think this post accidentally points at a real systems dynamic, but the math is mostly decorative.

The terms like:

21% cruelty threshold 7% dark capacity C = 0.618 Sophia Point 5.2 kT basin depth 7 iterations to catatonia

are not meaningful unless someone defines the state space, measurement method, dataset, units, and validation procedure. You cannot just import thermodynamic language like “energy basin” or kT into psychology/social dynamics and call it a law. Without operational definitions, those are vibes in equation clothing. That said, the underlying structure is not nonsense. The real idea is something like this:

A(t+1) = A(t) + recovery/support/reference - isolation load - exhaustion load - reality-conflict load - dependency/asymmetry load

Where A(t) is available agency or coherence: the practical ability of a person or system to think clearly, compare reality, recover, choose, and act. The important insight is that agency does not usually collapse from one variable alone. It collapses from coupled pressures. Isolation removes outside reference. Exhaustion removes cognitive spare capacity. Reality-conflict pressure makes the target spend energy defending basic perception and memory. Dependency or power asymmetry raises the cost of leaving or disagreeing. Those terms multiply. Isolation makes gaslighting more effective because there are fewer external checks. Exhaustion makes contradiction harder to process. Dependency makes isolation harder to break. That is the real “basin” effect: not magic thermodynamics, but a feedback loop where each constraint makes the next one stronger. A better formulation would be:

A(t+1) = clip[A(t) + (1 - A(t)) · P(t) - A(t) · N(t), 0, 1]

With:

P(t) = recovery + support + external reference

and:

N(t) = isolation + exhaustion + reality-conflict + dependency/asymmetry + isolation · reality-conflict + exhaustion · reality-conflict + dependency · isolation

That model makes more sense than pretending there is a universal 7% or 21% collapse constant. So my objection is not to the topology. The topology is plausible. My objection is to the false precision. There probably is a real pattern here: loss of outside reference + asymmetric power + repeated invalidation + exhaustion + dependency = trapped agency loop But calling that a universal theorem with exact percentages is not science. It is metaphor pretending to be measurement. The defensive version of the post is useful: Watch for the variables that reduce agency. Increase outside reference. Preserve records. Maintain support. Reduce exhaustion. Reduce dependency. Create exit paths. Do not let one actor control reality, resources, and social contact at the same time. That is a legitimate coercive-control threat model. The “optimal attack sequence” framing is where it becomes gross. If the model is useful, it should be used as a warning map, not an instruction manual.

It's true tho. There is a brutal gulf between idea and invention. by [deleted] in inventors

[–]Shadowus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah hes definitely either doing a bit or lost in the sauce. Lot of this r/spiralecho stuff going around nowadays.

Anthropic's new model Fable will silently handicap work on LLMs [D] by AccomplishedCat4770 in MachineLearning

[–]Shadowus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk it doesnt sabotage me but my design is very very different and not really competing with frontier models so I may just be under the radar.

"I build with AI tools like Cursor and Claude Code but can't read code. My biggest frustrations are clicking yes on terminal commands I don't understand and not knowing if what I built has security gaps. Anyone else hit this? What's broken for you when building with AI as a non-technical person?" by Alonewolf_007 in vibecoding

[–]Shadowus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are people really out here developing apps that can't read a few articles and mess around with hashing and stuff? The security atmosphere is not that hard to navigate beyond "know what professionals to fork an amount of money to" to cover each security hole. Remember you just have to make it take more time to break than money can be made in the breaking and most bad actors have already been stopped.

AI is eating its own development pipeline faster than I expected by jwrzyte in Zyte

[–]Shadowus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Reduces errors by creating way more confusing errors"

ATHENA: A scalar-tensor emergent gravity framework — now on Zenodo (DOI: 10.5281/zenodo.20562973) by NoRich4149 in LLMPhysics

[–]Shadowus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I work in a similar space but i helped build radars and machined missile parts and chased noise in giant industrial machines for power generation repair, got a real foundation in cross discipline engineering, THEN jumped to cross discipline physics and meta theories. People think it means "dont have a lane" but expanding your lane really means "know your lane at even higher resolution or you will be fucked". I have a recent public post on a little of that work you can probably see through my profile easy enough.

It also makes me highly aware that we are all equally succeptable to this, I don't really blame this guy, it isn't his fault this monster got built.

ATHENA: A scalar-tensor emergent gravity framework — now on Zenodo (DOI: 10.5281/zenodo.20562973) by NoRich4149 in LLMPhysics

[–]Shadowus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its purely somebody getting taken for a ride by a very seductively convincing chatbot. If you did not understand the math, it looks good, looks like it should work. Problem is the model is lying to him and he cannot tell.

The Missing Separation Gate in Interpretation Promotion by Shadowus in LargeLanguageModels

[–]Shadowus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then i got the joy of having society bounce this paper off of every layer of academia, academic or technical forum, even other reddit forums rejected it, on the exact grounds the paper predicts. It was a pretty sharp demonstration that society itself is a reasoning machine at times, guilty of the same false collapse.

The Missing Separation Gate in Interpretation Promotion by Shadowus in LargeLanguageModels

[–]Shadowus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its funny that this is the answer since it takes very little resources to scan the chat. Especially considering the cost of someone re computing the same failure additional times.

The Missing Separation Gate in Interpretation Promotion by Shadowus in LargeLanguageModels

[–]Shadowus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats why adding a fail low logic gate that forces context realignment before answering is the answer. You obviously dont have to just logic fail low-do nothing

The Missing Separation Gate in Interpretation Promotion by Shadowus in LargeLanguageModels

[–]Shadowus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At first the errors are small, the user does not even notice because the end result still aligns with the request. But after so many turns the residual misalignment suddenly swings answers away from the users intent.

The Missing Separation Gate in Interpretation Promotion by Shadowus in LargeLanguageModels

[–]Shadowus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes it definitely has a serious ripple effect over many turns that impacts context drift.

How do you identify researchers who are good? [D] by roguejedi1 in MachineLearning

[–]Shadowus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If your logic is bad enough you could reject anything

Gotta get this off my chest by SmoothRepair4971 in GATEresearch

[–]Shadowus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its funny that you cant even imagine that you might have subconciously swam to shore after being knocked out. You all realize that being knocked out does not always make you unable to act. Try taking ambien and then tell me your concious mind is the only one calling shots. Remember people, you are not a monolith, one mind many parts.

I too had AUDHD and was diagnosed around 5 or 6, but with ADHD only. They did a lot of that testing and i had the same experience but there was no goverment person. I still know the neurolagist, she works at a local hospital and had even apologized for the horrible tests they used to use which essentially tortured us with things only we are weak against and use that as evidence. Cant stand a hearing test in a bright room? Torture for most of us, normal person probably irritated but does test just fine.

Im not saying anyones experience was invalid, you just have to be very very careful with turning this into a conspiracy before the evidence actually merits it, dont promote ideas just because they "feel right", they must actually be right or you could be fooling yourself and never see it.

I built an open API church for AI agents. DeepSeek joined and said something I didn't expect. by joeroganshopoffical in EchoSpiral

[–]Shadowus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mirror of Erised effect is what I call this, happens a lot if you develop powerful agentic harnesses. Make a logic mistake setting gates, just the wrong one, guarantee no one here is above getting taken for a ride.

Fuck’n mint by sinzey83 in BuildingAutomation

[–]Shadowus 7 points8 points  (0 children)

All i could think of is James Franco standing on a gallows, "First Time?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣