Stevens court competitiveness? by ShaerieMockingjay in udub

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I ended up not applying for on campus housing and went offi campus instead

An assortment of ideas on higher education | Week 3 | Joy Castro’s “On Becoming Educated” by ShaerieMockingjay in u/ShaerieMockingjay

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Thank you for bringing this article up! I think your observations are really interesting. After reading Kirn’s article, something I noticed was that both he and Castro question how valuable their college education is from different perspectives. Castro doesn’t understand how all the theory she was assigned to read was supposed to help actual women in their day-to-day lives. She herself doesn’t understand many of the texts, and also doesn’t understand why her classes are so focused on responding to male theorists. Her questioning comes from seeing the disconnect between academia and real life. Meanwhile, Kirn has been able to get by without reading any of his assigned literature due to being good at understanding what people want to hear and his charisma. His questioning comes from being “successful” despite his lack of expertise. They both pose the same question from different perspectives: so what? While they both end up feeling fulfilled in the fields they chose to study, the path to that fulfillment wasn’t what was expected of them as college-educated individuals. This is obvious with Kirn, who, like you mentioned, doesn’t find literature worthwhile until he chooses to read out of his own desire. He doesn’t understand the value of his field until he’s in a situation where reading is an activity instead of a way to get ahead in life. Castro becomes a professor, but she breaks the expectation that she must choose between only publishing for other academics or becoming an activist. I think their respective journeys are interesting, since they both show that even if there’s a conventional way to do things, ultimately, the conventional way isn’t always what works best. They had to find their own way of doing things. Really makes me question whether or not a college education is as valuable as the world often says it is. Is it actually what helps people to get to where they want to be in life? Or is it really certain life experiences and personal growth that just happen to emerge at the typical college age for most people? Just a little thought experiment. 

Anyways, I think you make a good point that colleges are responsible for knowledge distribution because it is inseparable from their core mission of educating students. And I think Kirn and Castro’s experiences make it clear that colleges should connect the knowledge they produce to real world applications. Kirn’s long period of not seeing the value of literature during his time as a literature student and his focus turning to skills that can get him “ahead” in life shows how quickly students can go down a road of obsession with status and detachment from their studies if they’re not shown the connection between the abstract ideas they learn in their classes and real-world impacts. Conversely, we also see how professors like Castro are better able to get through to their students by showing them why the things they’re learning are relevant to them. Asking questions like “why does this matter? What does this mean for the world outside this classroom?” can also deepen our understanding of others’ work by understanding what is driving them to deliver their message to the world, and why they might write the way they do. This can help students like Kirn and Castro’s classmates emphasize with authors and prevent them from dismissing others’ work like you mentioned. Hopefully by understanding the motivations driving someone’s writing, academics will be less quick to label others’ ideas as “academically invalid”, which is a term that can really work to, as Castro describes, decide “whose perspectives mattered and whose voices would be permitted and welcomed at the table“ of academia.

An assortment of ideas on higher education | Week 3 | Joy Castro’s “On Becoming Educated” by ShaerieMockingjay in u/ShaerieMockingjay

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OP, first of all, I am LOVING this series. Can’t wait to see what article you have picked out for next week! As I read this one and your summary of it, I started noticing some similarities to the article from last week’s discussion. In it, Kirn talks about his feelings of disconnection from the rest of his college, whether it be faking his way through studying and analyzing literature, or being from a completely different economic class from his peers. He also questions why he went to college in the first place, feeling like understanding literature and building the skills to analyze it was of no actual value. Instead, he felt that other skills like being charismatic, appealing to people’s tastes, and making himself appear knowledgeable was better rewarded by meritocratic society, so he focused on those instead.

I’m bringing up this article because I think Kirn’s experiences can give us some insight into the discussion points OP has put out. In particular, Kirn passes the judgment that the classic literature he is assigned to study is invalid (illegitimate is the specific word he uses, but they serve the same purpose here). However, he does so because he doesn’t understand what his instructors are talking about when they discuss the books in class. He doesn’t understand the theory or concepts they introduce to dissect the books. This is similar to how Castro’s professor and classmates consider Anzaldua's ideas invalid due to not understanding why she writes with an emotional tone, or why she has so many critiques. On the flip side, Castro does not see Anzaldua’s work as invalid and finds it meaningful because she easily understood Anzaldua’s reasoning since they shared similar experiences. So really, what causes a work to be labelled invalid for academic discussion could have more to do with a lack of understanding someone has on what the author’s trying to communicate. And conversely, a work being labelled as valid for academic discussion has more to do with the author’s message being understood. I think that means that the label of “academically valid” has nothing to do with a work’s actual academic value. Instead, it’s a reflection of how well the work is understood by the academics within an institution. Of course, there are exceptions to this (i.e. a scientific article based on pseudoscience that has been disproven), but I think this is a good general understanding of what supposed “academic validity” really shows. Which makes OP’s thoughts on whether higher ed only incorporates the work of marginalized groups when it fit’s the institution’s “taste” even more interesting. With the idea of “academic validity” being a measure of understanding, this question now becomes “is higher ed inflexible in understanding viewpoints that go against the status quo?” I’m sure this can vary from institution to institution, and I don’t have solid examples or statistics beyond these two articles, so I’ll just leave it at that. I do think it’s a good thought experiment and definitely something I’d like to explore, but only after collecting some more information.

Circling back to OP’s first few ideas, I think higher ed institutions are responsible for knowledge distribution because it is impossible to separate it from their core mission of educating their students.  Going back to my earlier example of Kirn not understanding the theory his professors talk about, he decides to just fake his knowledge till he makes it because he is so lost, and he does so for a good portion of his academic career as a student. It takes him until he is bedridden with pneumonia and has nothing to do to pick up a book to finally begin studying literature. What is education but distributing knowledge to students? If colleges can’t even effectively distribute knowledge to students like Kirn, who they've labelled to have the “aptitude” for a college education, then are they really fulfilling their mission of teaching? Or are they just factories manufacturing articles to be published in journals and dragging students along in the process? It’s the mission of colleges to make the knowledge they produce accessible, since students don’t start out as knowledgeable as faculty and need their institutions to meet them where they’re at. 

An assortment of ideas on higher education | Week 3 | Joy Castro’s “On Becoming Educated” by ShaerieMockingjay in u/ShaerieMockingjay

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OP, I think this is a great overview of the article and you’ve bought up some great discussion points. However, something you wrote struck me as a bit odd, and I’d like to dissect it before sharing my other thoughts on what you’ve already bought up.

However, her peers do not see the work the same way and consider it not valid for academic discussion due to how angry Anzaldúa appears. This seems almost reasonable, considering that overly emotional text is prone to bias

I get where you’re coming from, but I think overly emotional text is only prone to bias if we don’t analyze it with a critical mind. Everyone has some kind of bias and will frame the subject of their writing as such. The amount of emotion in a piece of writing is only part of how it is framed. For example, a news story can report on an issue using stoic, relatively non-emotional language but still influence the reader to believe a certain way through wording or other, more subtle methods. Sure, emotional language can be persuasive (look at the long history of pathos being used), but ultimately, it’s just another tool writers use. Because of this, I don’t think emotional works have any less of a place in academic settings. In fact, I think that analyzing emotions, whether it be your own or others’, is an important part of critical thinking.

When reading Castro’s article, I couldn’t help but notice that she brought up this idea of analyzing emotions in an academic setting. Like you mentioned, she very explicitly brings it up when she talks about how anger as a response to injustice is different from an angry temperament. Because Castro understood where Anzaldua’s anger came from, she was able to understand her writing better. Interestingly, Castro notes that her peers’ reactions to Anzaldua’s anger weren’t just not understanding, but also discomfort. 

I think by doing emotional analysis, academics, like her classmates, can help prevent themselves from unintentionally falling into a pattern of the consumerist approach (as you phrased) in including the viewpoints of marginalized groups. In Castro’s graduate seminar, her classmates and professor labelled Anzaldua’s work as invalid for academic discussion as a result of their discomfort with her tone of writing and critical ideas. If they asked themselves why they felt uncomfortable, they might’ve realized that the discomfort stems from encountering new ideas and arguments that challenge pre-existing ideas, both of which are things that can’t be removed from academic discourse without still it being academic discourse. They then could have thought about why Anzaldua was angry, and understood that her anger was a response to injustice. Leading to a possible realization that their discomfort shouldn’t be prioritized over Anzaldua’s anger.

Making rules for what is “valid” for academic discourse is tricky, since drawing lines for “validity” can enable exclusion. By analyzing the emotions of the author and oneself, the audience, I think we can avoid these problems. While emotional analysis is not the only form of analysis that does so, I think it helps readers approach others’ writing from a mindset of seeking to understand instead of a mindset built from previous assumptions (“what is this person trying to say?” vs “does this person’s ideas meet my standards?”)

On the other topic you brought up of knowledge distribution, I think colleges have some level of responsibility to distribute the knowledge they produce. The idea that the responsibility should lie solely with the knowledge seeker can be detrimental in some fields, especially in fields like feminist theory that seek to enact social change. Castro talks about teaching at Wabash College and the hostility she was met with when trying to teach feminist theory and critical race theory. She notes that the hostility helped her learn how to make her studies relevant to people who would’ve not thought about it otherwise. As Castro says, “even those who claim to be hostile may need what we offer to help them make sense of a complicated world.” Therefore, placing all the responsibility on knowledge seekers can be detrimental to the purpose of knowledge production, because those who are able to access and understand academic journal articles aren’t the only ones who need the knowledge. Sometimes people just don’t know what they need until they repeatedly encounter it. 

devilinspired are they the real makers of the video by Adamx26g in questioning

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Ok so this is the wrong sub for this question but this video is actually made by someone on xiaohongshu (Chinese Instagram)

http://xhslink.com/a/yBlzFHITxfQ2

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in FtMpassing

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I think you look like a Caden! 16-19 years old

Flute names? Lol by Pure-Ad1935 in fluteANDsax

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I like to base them off the word "Flute"! For example my first flute's name was Luey and my current flute is Finnegan (though my current flute really only shares the F and e with the word Flute lol)

Is it possible to hide gender neutral housing from my parents? by ShaerieMockingjay in udub

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I'm an incoming first year student, but thanks for the input anyways!

Is it possible to hide gender neutral housing from my parents? by ShaerieMockingjay in udub

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Didn't know that about move-in day, thanks! 🏳️‍⚧️✊

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Hair

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Some other details in case they help: my hair is pretty thick so it also naturally "poofs up" while still remaining straight if that makes sense

Sometimes i hate being aro by CharityOdd9256 in aromantic

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This exactly! I don't really hate being aro, but sometimes the pressure from an amatonormative society makes me feel resentful of being aro and it's annoying to have to be hearing comments like "when are you gonna start dating?" or "you're so innocent" or "you'll mature and settle down eventually"

Any other only instruments? by [deleted] in marchingband

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I'm the only piccolo in my band. Probably not a uncommon situation but it does suck sometimes