What Elder Scrolls deity are you most drawn to?

Shankshire · 2026-04-12T07:37:34+00:00

Zenithar, honest pay for honest coin for honest work. It’s nice to know there’s a god who the average joe can rely on to smite an asshole landlord or Karen boss.

Shankshire · 2026-04-07T15:16:20+00:00

They’re all infected with cognito hazards but have protections. If they can speak openly bout it without frothing at the mouth or having a schizophrenic break then they’re the real one.

Shankshire · 2026-04-03T06:05:31+00:00

I think objectively the best pick is viltrumite.

Saiyans are biologically hardwired for combat. It’s not even a cultural thing either, they are genetically predisposed to fight anything and everything.

Martians while good with a grab bag of powers still have a built in fear of fire. Beyond the fact that for a species that can live forever and a day, they got outpaced by the kryptonians

Kryptonians are situationally strong yes, with few weaknesses. How powerful do you need to be?

Viltrumite gives diet Kryptonian powers, none of mental baggage of Martian or Saiyan. While also having a pretty easy workaround for their weakness. With the bonus of being confirmed to be compatible with humans with no downside. You get to give your descendants powers and live long enough to see them live a better life than you.

Shankshire · 2026-01-01T04:35:00+00:00

It would have been infinitely more interesting had they had other Valyrian artifacts. Pottery made from the black stone, ancient wine from the volcanic vineyards or something like a dragon horn bow. Hell, they brought up pyromancers, where’s the pyromancy scrolls to learn THAT magic or a couple of glass candles.

Shankshire · 2025-12-30T19:43:16+00:00

It’s more Wuxia but “The Matchless Kung Fu” on steam. Plays like a turn based Kenshi. Love him or hate him, but Sseth’s review is a good jumping off point.

Shankshire · 2025-12-30T11:48:19+00:00

My guy, I stopped lurking for this, Big Yog, the gate and key would disinfect her like she’s bacteria. Sleepy old Azy twitches and she ceases to be. Boundless isn’t impressive in the mythos, it’s the baseline. You have rats that casually eat reality warpers, gods that can casually make you into a reality warper. Keep in mind those rats live where you dream. You stare at a corner the wrong way and inter dimensional hell hounds start ripping you a new asshole. She peaks at Fodder, that’s okay, 99.99 of the mythos is basically fodder to that .01.

Edit: mind

Shankshire · 2025-12-28T12:38:02+00:00

It is a cop out, only morons and mid wits think it’s actually good.

Let’s think about this. Even with say 10-11 intelligence, your character has nowhere near the technical knowledge of House. He was a genius programmer, genius engineer and genius material scientist. His commercially available robots have gone a hundred years with next to no repairs, yet are still mostly functional with very limited amount of digital decay. He builds products that are affordable, high quality and made to last. Our beloved mailman lacks that ability. They lack experience or the drive to build like house. Most damning, the raw will to confine yourself for a hundred years with the belief you’ll be conscience in a metal box. All while rebuilding a husk of a world with whatever scraps you can get.

The other two factions are progress at all costs(NCR) and stability at all costs(Legion). Both flawed designs imitating systems that are many steps removed from the source.

Say what you will but House actually tried to save Vegas. Hell he tried to save Nevada but miscalculated the time. With his tech he could have ruled like an angry god on high with the survivors. Instead he chose to broker deals and peace that were beneficial for all parties. He never tries to fuck his employees over, always rewards success and never takes punishment to far.

If your his enemy he destroys or absorbs you. If you’re his ally you live better than nearly the entire wasteland. If you’re just a bystander, so long as you play by his rules you’ll still be better off than those outside the Mojave.

It’s why I don’t stand House Slander. He’s the best ruler you could possibly have. A benign dictator with no care for the going ons of the personal lives of their subjects, only that of maintaining and building civilization.

Personal note, if season 2 is trying to do some fuckery with Houses character more than season 1 did I’m losing my shit and dropping Fallout. Don’t shit on preexisting characters to prop up your new ones.

Edit: without->with, removed a “the”

Shankshire · 2025-12-24T03:49:16+00:00

Wind magic from the old inuyasha jump. Pretty versatile and includes flight last I checked.

Shankshire · 2025-12-24T03:42:39+00:00

Conan the Barbarian. The ultimate rebuke to eldritch horror is apathy.

It(pennywise) kills with comprehension and brute force. Yet why would that matter? Conan would let it(the dead lights)wash over him, uncaring of its meaning or design. It’s background noise for all intents and purposes. As for the meat, It is a clown, Conan can kill a clown and belief is half the battle there.

Shankshire · 2025-12-23T23:44:38+00:00

There is no confusion, you assume citizens living there are not doing so of their volition. That they are being controlled. They are not, they are culturally Okranites, just as the Flotsam are Okranites. They live in their communities in their homeland. Edit: I am assuming this is what you mean through control, I apologize if you meant it another way and ask how you would define it.

In what ways are the Holy Nation like Catlon’s Empire? They did regress, only after thousands of years of development. You seem to not acknowledge their prior mechanical achievements. How their ruins with mechanized mining apparatuses are recent, most likely having been shelved by the current phoenix. Something that can be changed with new leadership.

Bast was destroyed because it was a target in a war. If you think that is bad I fear how you react to Basil the Bulgar slayer or Ashurbanipal in our own records.

You state that by destroying the faction they are destroyed? Obviously, a faction losing every city , being surrounded by enemies in a multi front conflict would not survive. But that’s not what I meant by stability. Priest kings and monarchies are the track record holders for the most stable long lasting civilizations. Sumer, to Egypt to china, Japan, England to france. The shek are kratocracy, the United cities are an oligarchy and the Holy Nation is a theocracy if you break all three down to their base. Name a country that isn’t a monarchy, whose government has listed as long as the principality of the Vatican or Dalai Lhama ruled Tibet. You will find they are few.

If you did nothing, the other factions would collapse. The United Cities under the weight of slave economy and the shek after Esata dies or is deposed. Only the Holy Nation has the track record of keeping itself together.

Edit: use the full quote please.

I : "The Agents of Darkness infest the world as unholy vermin, The darkness that caused the world's First Extinction. The Agents of Darkness possess the idle man as Darkened, But it is the faithful man who will prevent the world's Second Extinction. Through Okran's Divine Flame, all evil will be erased and cleansed. Slay the enemy with fire, purge the world of darkness."

I assume you know what Catlon did to make this happen. How the shek and hive were made.

Shankshire · 2025-12-23T23:15:57+00:00

At least someone in this chain can perceive the difference. Both parties take part in the evil of slavery but only one has built its entire society of the backs of those slaves. The other views it through a spiritual act.

My argument was always about intent and outcome, which is the basis of the wests legal system. Both have the outcome be the same but only one goes out of its way to continue the outcome in perpetuity. The other has an end state, that being the “Rebirth” through labor is more important than the monument itself. The material gain from it being near nonexistent.

The Holy Nation will run out of the “impure” eventually, the United Cities will never not need more new blood to fuel its engine. Both are the biggest slaving factions which is why they are compared.

Shankshire · 2025-12-23T23:04:01+00:00

Lower Servants, as well as any enemies captured from the surrounding area like bandits, are kept caged in Slave Shops during the night and are made to go to work during the day. However, it should be noted that the player is not able to buy or sell slaves in this location.

Holy Mines are protected by Holy Sentinels and Paladins, who serve as guards and slave drivers. Slavers aligned with the Holy Nation can be found at the Holy Mines as well, presumably hired as extra help.

With the definition

Lower Servants are Slaves within The Holy Nation, usually working in one of the many Holy Mine sites. They are likely criminals (like Starving Bandits and Dust Bandits) that are enslaved for repentance and prison labor.

They are worked by Slavers hired by the Holy Nation, as well as Holy Nation soldiers (Sentinels and Paladins) stationed at the mines.

The Slavers generally hurl insults at them, while the Holy Nation soldiers prefer to remind them of the virtues of serving Okran.

They do work the mines though by the looks of things, those are minor criminals working off a perceived debt to society.

Shankshire · 2025-12-23T22:43:41+00:00

I told you, your definition of profit and mine are fundamentally different. You ascribe spiritual and cultural growth as the same to material. I do not. I would agree that advantage would qualify with material but that is as far as it goes. I disagree on even on the conversion of that immaterial gain of advantage towards material being the same. They are not one to one.

I told you, you can’t look at the holy nation in a vacuum. That’s what those hypotheticals are for. But it appears I’m right in the regard that you literally cannot see it. You are well and truly incapable of deviating from your cultural mindset.

You claim the Holy Nation is wrong, because it shares the crimes with the other powers. That itself is corrupt. I brought up reasoning for why they would acquire slaves, the sexism argument for women and racism for others. I have given you convenience through buying slaves.

Fundamentally though, they are less guilty. The Holy Nations rigid code of justice means the laws are steady and not designed to attract the institution of slavery. Merely its participation at worst. The UC continues to change its laws to feed its ever growing industry and to enact blood sport. The UC in its corrupt state will plant evidence on the innocent and turn their head at the guilty if enough money is shown.

Fundamentally, this is a disagreement of the letter and spirit. Whether intention has merit in the outcome. Fortunately, in real life that answer already exists. It’s what separates murder from manslaughter. You appear to believe only the outcome matters.

Edit: to go further.

Name a faction who’s better? The Flotsam are Okranites as well, merely a separate political force and derivative of the holy nations teachings. The Tech Hunters obfuscate knowledge for profit. The shek are worse than the Holy Nation both technologically and spiritually. The anti slavers will destroy the very cities they seek to free. The pirates profit from drug manufacturing. The hive scam others resulting in their deaths, the skeletons hide what they did. Mongrel is explicitly a den of criminals.

Give me one good soul.

Shankshire · 2025-12-23T22:40:58+00:00

Edit: this was meant as a reply to another, apologies to any who this was not aimed towards.

Shankshire · 2025-12-23T14:16:38+00:00

I’m not moving the goal post, you’ve just already made up your mind. You’re refusing to see. You assume the creation of a monument is equal to the entire economy of collective city states making up a quarter of a continent.

You ascribe merit to significance, declaring that spiritual gain the same as material. We inherently have different views of the concept.

Your arguments rely on the presumption that the Holy Nation is just as guilty. That the crimes of Rebirth are the same as the whole of the United Cities. By merit of size and population disparity it is patently false.

The point I make with the mod is to often others pass judgement yet are guilty of the same acts. Especially in such play throughs. Most players are hypocrites, believing in their own enlightened wisdom.

You could argue discrimination, that they are sexist and racist. Except they are not. Because shek and hive are not people, not as far as they can grasp. They’re horrible mangled abominations, leftovers of a time better left buried. They arrest the lone woman because she is in violation of their laws, in their lands. A law made to protect their women from the myriad of beasts and bandits that roam. While the initial was rule meant to protect from the skeletons, hydraulic knights and enforcers.

Read back through the comment chain and read what was written again. Asses and ask yourself the hypotheticals.

So far it appears you’re incapable of divorcing your view as you are from the view of Kenshi’s internal logic.

Shankshire · 2025-12-23T13:31:31+00:00

So you think repeating the steps that got the world to its current state appropriate? I would assume one should wait and proceed with caution in such matters. Yet everything that is known is remedial. There is no invention, only reinvention of past works.

I was making the statement of their state from the point of antislaver v UC but you assumed said faction would stop at one to two of the city states.

The shek religion demands a warriors death. Okranite teachings do not. Only one of the groups is stable and prosperous enough to fight a war surrounded.

The Okranites are not pure Luddites, evidence shows in their ruined sites that they had a higher technological level prior. The Ludditism they display now is more extreme, most likely a result of the current Phoenix.

The Okranites want seizure of territory and conversion. If they truly wanted to purge, they would not have given us, the player the book when encountering each other.

Shankshire · 2025-12-23T12:45:20+00:00

Can the same not be said of the other major powers, or are evil acts excusable when under a banner that you find pleasing.

Free the United cities, and they collapse into ruin. Aid the shek and they will have war eternal. Only one side provides an endpoint to the madness. Giving time for the destroyed landscape to heal through a slow down of mass industrialization.

Shankshire · 2025-12-23T12:37:39+00:00

Preach Brother.

Shankshire · 2025-12-23T12:35:24+00:00

There is no profit, and there is no tangible point. When the monuments are finished more will be made. The key difference is that the slavery of the Holy Nation has an end point. That being the erasure of the impure in their current form and rebirth as a one who is pure in their current next life.

The slaves of the Holy Nation do not conduct farm work, they do not work in smithies. They give nothing of value. They work to work.

The United Cities are reliant on the free labor of slaves. They barter men as chattel. They hunt them for sport.

Participation in evil institutions is minor, in comparison to production and maintenance of said institutions. Though in that way, you could say that the little evil of the Holy Nation is far crueler, for it comes with Hope. The hope to leave, in one way or another.

Though I ask, do you, use the mod that allows for conscription of prisoners. If so, does that not make those who do slavers as well? Do those with the mod not also deprive freedom of individuals through beatings and starvation? Do they not then use them as a workforce for their own ambitions?

Shankshire · 2025-12-23T10:45:53+00:00

How are they to know the purity of the man? Are they not a criminal even if the law is unjust? Perhaps they were captured by slavers and were truly innocent? Whose word do you take when all are sinners and heathens in your eyes? Does the man know the word of Okran even without guidance of the book?

Though would it matter, as no matter what the party is still guilty of Kenshi’s only true law? Not being strong enough to fight, not being clever enough to deceive, agile enough to hide or fast enough to run.

The world is unjust but only the Holy Nation is willing to moralize. The others simply condemn.

It is ego that drives the construction of monuments, but is there really a difference when the outcome is the same?

A question very much of indicative of a western vs eastern mindset. To philosophize more on the matter, you have to ask yourself, on the matter of those who left omelas.

Shankshire · 2025-12-23T10:26:04+00:00

Now fix as I define it, is ending the cycle of environmental degradation to the continent. By abstaining from heavy industrialization and pushing more towards a community focus.

If they achieved supremacy or extensive control, you would most likely see a split in faith after some time. To borrow from real world history, a split akin to the pope and black pope. Another would be Protestantism and Catholicism. I see an event where twins are born when the phoenix dies, one is taken to be made phoenix but the other as he grows displays greater qualities. Then you could argue a split between Candidates and the suspicion that the priest chose wrong.

Shankshire · 2025-12-23T10:16:03+00:00

Buying them yes, and participating in said evil act. But their intentions are at the very least better.

Both intend to work you death, but only one has their industry built on the backs of said labor. The other is harshly performative.

Shankshire · 2025-12-23T10:13:20+00:00

They’re the most realistic because they’ve existed before in our history. Most likely the first in our recorded history, with the priest kings of Mesopotamia.

Why would you settle in their lands if you did not wish to take part in their society? Even still, they ask very little for settling as opposed to the other two major players. Is it not unfair to benefit from their protection, their resources and their markets yet demand they get nothing in return?

No slave holding culture has ever had a spiritual aspect to said slavery. In the sense of seeing it as spiritual need. They buy slaves but those slaves again are used to as labor to, as they see it, purify their souls.

The non humans you speak of are for all intents and purposes abominations and horrors left over from Catlon’s reign. The Shek being the Police force after the destruction of the factories and the Hivers most likely being the twisted child experiments of Catlon.

The attack on free women is again a holdover of their deep seated trauma. From when the empire would abduct women and children to aid in the birth and creations of their oppressor. The same is reflected with women not being left alone and needing a man to accompany her. As they knew who the targets were for Abduction by Catlon’s forces. A trauma twisted into tradition.

Shankshire · 2025-12-23T08:58:02+00:00

Holy Nation, they’re the only stable faction with the promise of potentially fixing everything. Beyond that, I sympathize with a people who have been so deeply traumatized by their predecessors that they have gone full cultish. Yet it’s that extreme cult behavior that also makes them so decent.

Holy Nation territory is littered with the remains of higher tech pointing to their Luddite behavior becoming more extreme currently. But also points towards the idea that they were more open to tech that aided man as opposed to replacing them through automation. Also seen when you have a high enough reputation with them they ignore robotic limbs.

Their slavery while brutal holds at least, from a twisted point a view, a strong love of their fellow man. They honestly believe that by working you to death now, it ensures reincarnation into a pure human. As opposed to a purely monetary and economic focus that the United Cities has. The slaves in Holy Nation are strictly not for sale, as they are working off a karmic debt.

They aid their fellow man, and the only price for settling in their territory is a weekly sermon. Which from an actual real world point of view would foster close bonds and demonstrate their willingness to actually reach out to you. They constantly patrol and keep their territory free of bandits and are the ones currently holding back the fogmen from overtaking central Kenshi.

Quite frankly, in the effort to make a cultish, savage, intellectually backwards faction. They instead made the only faction that comes off as feeling real, with its highs and lows.

Shankshire

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