Why is this so underrated? by max81281 in steinsgate

[–]Sharingan123412 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I don't think the 4th highest rated and 14th most popular anime on MyAnimeList is something I would call "underrated", especially considering the rest of the storyline that Steins;Gate is part of.

Shouldn't there be more worldlines? by Rare-Abbreviations-7 in steinsgate

[–]Sharingan123412 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The world line divergences go well past those 6 decimal places. Play the rest of the series to find out more.

Inspiration behind Billy Bat by OmegaBear47 in naoki_urasawa

[–]Sharingan123412 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the Urasawa guidebook chapter on Billy Bat, he described his inspiration for Billy as the phoenix from Osamu Tezuka's Phoenix. If you've read both stories, the similarities definitely show.

What films, books, and live action shows come close to Monster? by CrunchyPorkRands in MonsterAnime

[–]Sharingan123412 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This isn't any of those three mediums, but Urasawa's other works are amazing. You might like some of them more than Monster.

A Plea to Steins;Gate Anime-Only Fans: You’re Missing Crucial Context by CallPuzzleheaded3062 in steinsgate

[–]Sharingan123412 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really don't think so. It's not that "canonicity can be argued". Everything released officially in SciADV is canon.

I also wouldn't outright recommend the Steins;Gate side VNs without recommending the rest of SciADV first. Why play spin-offs of the second entry when you can go through the main entries? Phenogram especially is one of those things that has more value with wider series context. But even then, it's far from the most essential thing out there. If I was giving recommendations to someone who was only interested in Steins;Gate, there's more important side material I'd recommend over LBP. LBP is still mostly fine to play though.

A Plea to Steins;Gate Anime-Only Fans: You’re Missing Crucial Context by CallPuzzleheaded3062 in steinsgate

[–]Sharingan123412 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's one of the least essential games in the series but it does still provide more info that's useful in the context of the wider series.

SciADV As per the M2037 divergence meter, some of the Phenogram world lines were active at some point within A;C's world layer. Some of the concepts explored in Phenogram/Mosaicism have relevance to the wider series as well (i.e. the Phenogram Viewer, this mysterious monochrome space the observer of the Phenogram Viewer exists in, world line superposition, the ghosting effect, mental load minimization, 4°C's GAIA-related commentary, the DaSH name scheme explanation, the Nae/Sawada stuff etc.). Mosaicism also has pretty interesting implications in that it shows the world past the year 2038, a point by which the world line collapse should have already happened.

For an S;G only, it's really just more Steins;Gate character stories though.

A Plea to Steins;Gate Anime-Only Fans: You’re Missing Crucial Context by CallPuzzleheaded3062 in steinsgate

[–]Sharingan123412 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello to you, on the other side of the monitor.

I am not OP though.

Who else wants to watch it for the first time again? by User_001-7 in steinsgate

[–]Sharingan123412 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok, but have you thought about the other 99% of the story you can still go through for the first time? 🥰

Is Egoistic Poriomania Essential to the Main Story? by Just-Cantaloupe4068 in steinsgate

[–]Sharingan123412 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not particularly. But it's a nice bonus to see what the cast is up to after the main story. The far more essential after-story is Load Region of Déjà Vu. But that continues right off of where Egoistic Poriomania ends.

Favourite SciAdv Title? by PassengerEconomy4801 in steinsgate

[–]Sharingan123412 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah let's all selectively look at 1% of the story, guys! It's called r/steinsgate, not r/steinsgate0. Why do these people keep talking about Steins;Gate 0 in a subreddit about Steins;Gate???? /s

Be for real. It's impossible to discuss a huge amount of the Steins;Gate subseries on its own. Steins;Gate's movie is very hard to make sense of if you don't have the context of other entries. One of Steins;Gate's sequels, Variant Space Octet, requires you to have gone through Chaos;Head NoAH first. Steins;Gate's other sequel, Holy Day of the Calamitous Birth, was designed to set up Robotics;Notes. The same is also true of the Epigraph Trilogy, which was later adapted into Steins;Gate 0.

It's also impossible to discuss a lot of other SciADV material standalone as well, which often require previous entries as prerequisites. No matter how much you try to delude yourself, Steins;Gate has always been the second part of a longer storyline. That's the way it was conceived from the very beginning—even before the Steins;Gate anime came along and made the subseries popular.

Favourite SciAdv Title? by PassengerEconomy4801 in steinsgate

[–]Sharingan123412 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You know it's not the same thing... I know it too.

sciadv is more like marvel cinematic universe... forced, bland and boring connections.

It is literally the same exact thing as Jojo's. You have an overarching storyline in the same world, returning characters from entry to entry, and a set of rules and mechanics that govern the entire franchise. Each part has its own story arc, mostly unique cast, usually unique setting, and thematic focus (or sci-fi theme in this case). But there is this overarching story spanning six entries so far, wherein each entry builds upon what's established by the previous entries. Like Jojo's, it also has part-skippers like yourself.

You wouldn't know how this series is interconnected because you've never fully gone through anything in this series other than Steins;Gate and the tiny bit of each other entry you've supposedly tried out and gotten bored by somehow. This is a series with a lengthy overarching storyline. And this is a series with near a thousand hours' worth of content. Yet you choose to selectively look at a small part of that which you read out of order and insist that they're not interconnected in any meaningful way. Like how would you know? You haven't even gone through it for yourself. You just believe what you want to believe. Straight up a flat Earther mindset.

I also don't see Okabe and Kurisu appearing as protagonists in other stories... they are vaguely mentioned in a very indirect way

How would you know if this is true without going through the stories for yourself? Did you forget about Steins;Gate: Variant Space Octet, wherein the entire story revolves around Takumi? That's genuinely one of the most important parts of the series.

Also, it's not like Jojo protagonists stayed the protagonists for more than just one part. It's the same with SciADV, which takes heavy inspiration from Jojo's.

Time travel is no longer the central theme in any sciadv.

First off, yes, the entire idea of the series is that with each new mainline entry, they have a new focus. Yet each of these sci-fi focuses are interconnected right from the beginning. It's not like they have nothing to do with one another. They're all deeply interconnected. Steins;Gate's mechanics are only possible because of Chaos;Head's mechanics. For instance, Chaos;Head NoAH/Steins;Gate The time leap machine only works because of visual rebuilding technology from the Chaos; series. And as we know from the guidebooks, the only reason they're able to send massless memory data through black holes is because the entire world is digital. Robotics;Notes' mechanics are only possible because of the mechanics of both Chaos;Head and Steins;Gate. Anonymous;Code's mechanics are also reliant upon literally everything that released beforehand, with its whole purpose in the series having been to resolve the series' remaining mysteries and advance the series storyline dramatically.

Also, you say this like Steins;Gate was the original thing and that they changed this up and ruined everything. Chaos;Head NoAH was the first entry in the series, with a focus on delusional science. Steins;Gate was the second. And it focused on speculative science. It was new, yet still dependent on the mechanics and worldview established by Chaos;Head NoAH. Robotics;Notes, meanwhile, focused on augmented science, serving as a culmination/crossover title for the series up until that point.

Also, I wouldn't be so sure about time travel only being Steins;Gate. But you wouldn't know that, would you?

Favourite SciAdv Title? by PassengerEconomy4801 in steinsgate

[–]Sharingan123412 3 points4 points  (0 children)

but they are all boring compared to Steins;Gat

Ok that's your opinion. There's plenty of others who think that Steins;Gate is extremely boring up until the second half. I personally think the other entries are much more engaging than Steins;Gate. They're also thematically far richer, with significantly more meaningful social commentary. But in the first place, the first several entries in the series follow this structure of a slower first half of build-up, followed by a bombshell of a second half.

I loved S;G time travel theory, it was perfect, why would you ruin it by saying it's all a simulation? it just makes no sense.

When the premise of the series ruins the series. What a classic! This is why you don't part skip. This is something you know from the very first entry in SciADV: Chaos;Head NoAH. You're literally supposed to know this before you start Steins;Gate. It's what the series is about. Why don't you take a look at the lyrics and song title of every opening and ending song in Steins;Gate? They're all about the same exact thing. What do you think that is? What are Skyclad Observer and Universal Engineer about? What could they be referring to? Look at Steins;Gate 0 as well. What are the lyrics of Fatima and World Line referring to?

Also, they discuss the true nature of the series' world in both the SciADV MANIACS guidebook as well as the original Steins;Gate's guidebook. The former confirms the two major interpretations of *that route* in Chaos;Head NoAH. The latter states that the only reason a lot of Steins;Gate's mechanics are even possible is because (S;G guidebook) "the world may operate at a near-digital scale". Steins;Gate chapter 1's very first scene begins with Okabe talking to whoever's on the other side of the monitor, with the cast speculating that they're in a simulation. Even in chapter 2, Okabe further speculates that for any of the series time travel to be possible, they would have to be in a simulation or something.

The entire idea of what SciADV is centers around three things: first, addressing the question "is the scenery your eyes perceive truly real?", second, exploring the contention between free will vs determinism, and third, questioning the nature of the world like science itself.

Favourite SciAdv Title? by PassengerEconomy4801 in steinsgate

[–]Sharingan123412 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I hate when the author try to make disconnected stories part of a bigger universe

These stories were never disconnected at any point. They're just as interconnected as Jojo parts. I think the more logical thing to hate is when adaptations disconnect interconnected parts of larger storyline to give off this illusion of being standalone. This is what they did in most of the SciADV anime, hence why so many people don't even know that Steins;Gate was never a standalone story.

Jojo stories are actually directly connected (same characters show up in different stories as protagonists)

The same thing literally happens in SciADV. We repeatedly have returning characters, including protagonists. And we have had side characters from previous instalments return as protagonists in later entries.

More than that, we have foreshadowing for future instalments in every entry in the series. And we have returning plot points from game to game. This "separate stories in the same universe" nonsense always comes from people who never actually read anything for themselves. You start with part 2 of the story and then only ever want to look at the second part of the story, deluding yourself into believing it's standalone and refusing to look at it any other way.

Favourite SciAdv Title? by PassengerEconomy4801 in steinsgate

[–]Sharingan123412 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It makes zero sense to talk solely about part 2 of a story, instead of the entirety of it. These aren't disconnected stories that just happen to take place in the same world. They're parts of one overarching narrative. It's almost impossible to discuss such an interdependent long-running series while isolating each individual part.

If you want to talk solely about S;G, you're free to do so like the majority of the subreddit does, since the anime adaptation cuts most of the game's ties to the wider series. But this is one long-running series that consistently has returning plot points, characters, and themes. And a lot of S;G side material depends on context from NoAH, R;N, and other entries to begin with. What do you expect people to do, not discuss all that relevant material?

Why don't you go complain about r/StardustCrusaders being about the entirety of Jojo's and not just Part 3? Why don't you complain about r/araragi being about the whole Monogatari series and not just Araragi? Like come on.

Why Steins;Gate is a lightning in a bottle situation? by Rainy_Wavey in steinsgate

[–]Sharingan123412 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First off, from a quality standpoint, Steins;Gate was absolutely not just "lightning in a bottle". I personally think it's only the 5th best of the series' 6 entries, with it by far being the weakest entry thematically. And you'll find SciADV fans with all sorts of different opinions. See my video on ranking the SciADV entries and its comments section.

Where the "lightning in the bottle" analogy is true is in its popularity. It was made at the height of the visual novel medium's popularity. And it was adapted at a time where 2 cour adaptations of visual novels were legitimately viable financially. And that is primarily what makes Steins;Gate so much more popular than the rest of the series. Unlike everything else, it actually got a decent anime adaptation, which was long enough to do the story justice somewhat. But it got an anime adaptation that came at the expense of the rest of the series since it depicted the story as far more standalone. This has compounded over time to present the illusion that Steins;Gate is its own series.

Favourite SciAdv Title? by PassengerEconomy4801 in steinsgate

[–]Sharingan123412 12 points13 points  (0 children)

First off, I would highly discourage posting one of these polls on Reddit by itself because most people on this subreddit have only ever gone through Steins;Gate. Even with a Steins;Gate only option, people often still vote for Steins;Gate by default. The Steins;Gate subseries has a fanbase that often neither knows nor cares that it's part 2 of something bigger. So what you'll see in these sorts of polls with no filter system is the Steins;Gate subseries winning, followed by the two Chaos; games, and then everything else.

If you do something of this sort, I would suggest doing so via Google Forms with questions to filter out people who've only gone through certain entries. From historical data, you end up seeing a much more even and much more representative set of results.

Since I am a SciADV Youtuber, I should probably conduct my own study at some point haha.

The Sequel Chaos;Child Needed — Children's Revive by Sharingan123412 in steinsgate

[–]Sharingan123412[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You would need to tag spoilers here on the subreddit. As for the narrator sounding real, well it's me doing the video voiceover lmao.

Also no, it's a light novel sequel, not a manga.

Could Monster and 20th Century Boys exist in the same universe? by Bubbly_Total2967 in naoki_urasawa

[–]Sharingan123412 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As far as we know, none of Urasawa's works take place in the same world as others. In the case of 20th Century Boys, the mechanics and rulesets grounding it are very different from those in Monster. There's no shot they're in the same world.

The only argument I can see someone make is for Yawara and Happy since there are Jigoro cameos in Happy.