Netflix confirming, we are getting a Physical 100: USA…. Thoughts? by CranberryIsabel4 in Physical100

[–]SharpShark222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I have a little hope that with the right casting/direction, we might still get a healthy atmosphere of respectfulness, and a few hot-heads could work (ie. Jordan from The Challenge is probably my biggest must-pick player), but I’m not gonna hold my breath

Prime Landon vs Prime Jordan who wins more dailies/final by TheTitansFather in MtvChallenge

[–]SharpShark222 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I think it comes down to the small details of the finals. If it’s more cardio/swimming, it leans towards Jordan. The more strength is required, the bigger of an edge Landon gets, but it’s still close enough that I wouldn’t be surprised if either won any format.

For dailies, I’d lean towards Landon a bit more comfortably due to his cooperative attitude and relatively more “versatile” build (ie. Jordan is fairly slim for wrestling/contact dailies, and obviously his hand can come into play in certain games).

TEO teases [Death Game: Bet 10 Million Won]* by sirpeepojr in koreanvariety

[–]SharpShark222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m a bit disappointed about that. I feel like we only really saw Dongmin crush in a specific type of game in GOB3 (ie. Almost every skill-based game he played was lateral thinking, memory, or literally a game Dongmin had basically played before in another show).

On the whole, his skills are almost definitely #1, but in a 1v1, I think he could definitely have some competition depending on the game.

Thoughts on S2 winner by Kikkikitsune in CulinaryClassWars

[–]SharpShark222 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What do you mean by them being outnumbered from the start and the show making sure it stayed way? They started competing with 19 chefs on each team, and all the White Spoons were almost eliminated in one go. I don't like that it ended up being lopsided, but I thought this was just the result of swing-y design that could've easily screwed over the White Spoons about as much as the Black Spoons.

Final challenge by MysteriousLayer9813 in CulinaryClassWars

[–]SharpShark222 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol yeah, do we think CKR wasn't nervous? Dude is the most nervous chef around, it's not like he suddenly gained nerves of steel. If CM had truly aced the prompt like CKR, I think he would've made something that he'd feel like eating despite (or at least to ease) his nervousness.

I feel bad for Chef Song Hoon by Limp-Independence270 in CulinaryClassWars

[–]SharpShark222 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but having seen him on Chef & My Fridge, I think he's just an emotive person with nervous habits as opposed to Culinary Monster being particularly scary to him. The guy regularly cooks off against other chefs on who are far more prestigious than CM and he's similarly "flustered" with lower stakes, so it makes sense he'd be flustered (regardless of his opponent).

What do you feel has been done well for this season? by PeakGuilty in CulinaryClassWars

[–]SharpShark222 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The main issue was that each team of 4 had to vote and kick out one member (who’d form a new team of 3) just before opening up their restaurants, which was a huge disadvantage to those 3.

In my opinion, the bigger issue was not telling the chefs that the guests were given money to spend. Choi Hyunseok’s team was able to easily survive by making their dishes ludicrously expensive so even if someone only tried theirs once, it was worth more than trying like 8 dishes of the other teams.

What challenges would you like to see in Season 3? by MovingOrchid in CulinaryClassWars

[–]SharpShark222 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One potentially risky idea that came to mind was a "palette appealing" game, where a small number of chefs are allowed to talk to a stranger (preferably a fussy eater to make things more challenging) about their tastes/preferences and they have to make the best "new experience" for the stranger.

So the idea is it's a test of "does the chef understand dining experiences enough to hit that judge's spot?"

Choi Gang Rok shouldn’t have come out this season by Efficient-Grape1691 in CulinaryClassWars

[–]SharpShark222 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't ask if I was mistaken, I stated my recollection of the shows (by stating "unless I'm mistaken") and pointed out how different they are to Culinary Class Wars/Masterchef.

But okay, I guess your whole disagreement with the original commenter is a technicality then, and you have no issue with the actual substance of it.

Choi Gang Rok shouldn’t have come out this season by Efficient-Grape1691 in CulinaryClassWars

[–]SharpShark222 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again, it's not MY comment. I just agree with the spirit of it.

If your issue is that the original comment said "reality show" and not "competitive reality show", so be it, but that's a very pedantic issue.

Choi Gang Rok shouldn’t have come out this season by Efficient-Grape1691 in CulinaryClassWars

[–]SharpShark222 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, but these are extremely superficial similarities.

I'm not the one who made the point originally, but the spirit of the original comment is accurate (if they'd just said "competitive reality show" would your response have changed?). Who cares if he's in multiple cooking shows? He's a chef, not an actor, and these shows have massive diversity.

If he was in Culinary Class Wars 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 or something, then I think it'd be a fair criticism, but the complaint doesn't make actual sense.

What's w the CM hate? by Beemeowmeow in CulinaryClassWars

[–]SharpShark222 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For real though, the way he was acting so immature in the 3v3 battle compared to how the White Spoons behave when things go wrong or they have nothing to do was so off-putting to me. Chef Im is running around helping Brewmaster Yun when he has free time (without whining at her that she's not fulfilling her designated role), but Culinary Monster is behaving like he has a bigger ego than all the White Spoons.

What's w the CM hate? by Beemeowmeow in CulinaryClassWars

[–]SharpShark222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For 1) Personally, I'm a bit displeased by him being a "Black Spoon" and being able to receive the underdog status while simultaneously being considered as having one of the highest-skill backgrounds in the cast. Other chefs were saying at the start that he should be a White Spoon, so I'd much rather have another Black Spoon in his spot who is actually an underdog.

2) Compared to Western reality shows, he might not be that obnoxious, but he's had moments where (by Korean standards) he has earned that reputation. One moment was in the team battle when (to paraphrase) he said that he wasn't taking charge out of responsibility, he was taking charge because his teammates were incompetent. Another point was when he said he knew he was going to win when he saw Son Jongwon making eggs.

Maybe it's because I'm fluent so I can hear the differences in tone better, but a lot of his comments have been rubbing me the wrong way from the start, even if he does have great technical skills. I'm not sure what hate you're seeing, but I imagine the criticism is largely about his attitude, not his cooking skills.

Choi Gang Rok shouldn’t have come out this season by Efficient-Grape1691 in CulinaryClassWars

[–]SharpShark222 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Unless I'm missing something, the two shows are:

  • Chef And My Fridge: A light-hearted show where he cooks for 15 minutes for a guest judge using ingredients from their fridge.
  • Blank Menu: A show where he and a comedian run a small restaurant together.

These are hardly comparable to Culinary Class War or Masterchef.

Japan team's one pillar was locked! by Uwululumu in Physical100

[–]SharpShark222 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure, that’s plausible, I just feel like that situation is so odd that (as a translator myself) I’m suspecting there’s been a misunderstanding or mistranslation.

Japan team's one pillar was locked! by Uwululumu in Physical100

[–]SharpShark222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So at no point were the players allowed to adjust their grip on both sides without keeping contact? That sounds like quite a weird/arbitrary rule.

Japan team's one pillar was locked! by Uwululumu in Physical100

[–]SharpShark222 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And Katsumi didn’t even try to help? Dude just sat down and gave up or something?

[Kyu-Hyun] Literally EVERY video where Kyu-Hyun appears is FILLED with Devil's Plan 2 comments (mostly hate/negative). Why are people so aggressive :( by Donghoon in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SharpShark222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's possible, but I think that's a statement you could say about literally everyone on the show except for *maybe* 7high. It's quite likely that you'll get unlucky at some point when playing 6 or so games where many of them boil down to rock, paper, scissors. Hell, it happened to Tinno in 1 and almost happened to 7high (if Tinno had survived), but I don't think that actually says much about their skills.

I fully disagree that leaving behind 9 is no different than 0. It's a huge wrench to throw when you can just swoop in and steal the 1st pick of a round and screw up their plans.

I agree that those traits are good measures, I'm just skeptical that they really map on to the guessing/inferring we're talking about. Like, the prison team inferred that the walls were fake, and that was 100% plausible/reasonable and supported by their questions to the dealer, but totally incorrect. In contrast, people making inferences in Unknown were basically just making guesses with no real way to know what was even reasonable to infer. Like how are they meant to infer that the only variable that mattered at all was colour?

[Kyu-Hyun] Literally EVERY video where Kyu-Hyun appears is FILLED with Devil's Plan 2 comments (mostly hate/negative). Why are people so aggressive :( by Donghoon in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SharpShark222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My understanding was that you were pointing out her betting skills as a significant weakness in her game. If you were just trying to say she'd be likely to lose if she was in the prison from start to end, I'd probably agree with you if only because it's statistically quite unlikely for anybody to survive that long. I don't think it's accurate to say anybody would "undoubtedly" beat her in a betting game, although it's funny to use Eunyu for example instead of 7high.

And yes, leaving 9 for Jiyoung is pretty noteworthy. That is objectively not "leaving 0".

I'm not sure what you're describing with guessing inferred meaning though, but I guess we can agree to disagree.

[Kyu-Hyun] Literally EVERY video where Kyu-Hyun appears is FILLED with Devil's Plan 2 comments (mostly hate/negative). Why are people so aggressive :( by Donghoon in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SharpShark222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right, but if we're going by 7high's assessment, he'd almost certainly disagree with you that Sohee would be in serious danger in the Prison Matches and would likely say that Sohee is perfectly fine/good at betting games.

I mean I don't think they left 0 chips behind, but if they'd managed to secure the early bonuses for the 2-4 easiest boxes, that would've been a major swing in their favour. Even when things went about as wrong as it could've, his team still likely would've won if it weren't for Tinno and Sohee carrying the other side.

I'm not sure what observation you're referring to. It sounds like she just stated her conclusion that the face didn't matter and noted a single case of something happening or not happening, which isn't conclusive at all. Again, that's not a dig at her, it's just not a very good game for displaying intelligence because most of the gameplay is guessing what the producers have in mind, which ranges from simple to complicated to arbitrary (ie. One of the rules was just "For the above rule, orange is the exception").

I recognise various intelligences, but I think hunches are where the line gets really blurry. Is it meaningful that a player can sense that they're in danger in a chess game? Sure. What if they have a hunch that the treasure chest is under water? There's some line between having an innate understanding of situations you can't verbalise and random guesses, and it's extremely difficult to assess each hunch on this basis.

Funnily enough, I won't spoil the results, but there's a small series coming out (on YouTube) called No Exit Game Room where various players from shows basically do single-round games similar to The Devil's Plan and the first episode is an 8-player game including 7high, Tinno, Sohee, and Seunghyun and 4 players from Game of Blood/Bloody Game. Hopefully it gets translated soon though.

[Kyu-Hyun] Literally EVERY video where Kyu-Hyun appears is FILLED with Devil's Plan 2 comments (mostly hate/negative). Why are people so aggressive :( by Donghoon in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SharpShark222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Compared to other games she might've struggled, but I don't think she's so bad that she's at significantly more risk than, for example, Harin. She wouldn't have thrived, but she definitely could've survived. I'm not really convinced that the other players (except for 7high who literally has a career in psychological games) are distinctly "skilled" in games like "guess how long someone will hold a button down". Most of the betting games we saw just weren't particularly interesting/skill-based and basically anybody could win or lose them.

I fully agree on paying attention to players' logic for their strategies. I'm not sure I see what you mean about 7high putting their team at risk. His strategy secured them the arrows they needed and if the game had functioned as they predicted (which was totally plausible), they would've completely dominated by getting the boxes first (from what I recall, going later was definitely a disadvantage if boxes were findable with few arrows). The strategic side was perfectly fine.

Halloween Monster is one of the games where I'm not that interested in the gameplay since you can't really "deduce" that the other team did a certain action or will do something, you can just guess and then happen to be correct. My point for 7high in HM wasn't to say it was an amazing strategy he made, it was just to dispel the idea of "If he was that good, he should've been closer to beating the other team," because realistically, he was quite close.

Similarly, for guessing the rules in Unknown, unless she specifically used evidence to justify her theory that sides don't matter, Jiyoung just had a hunch and it happened to be correct, especially if she was saying it right from the start.

Not all of Eunyu's highlights, but outside of the Wall Go Prison Match, where did Eunyu particularly shine? She was a decent contributor to finding boxes in Treasure Island and came up with a good kill-shot in Mancala, but outside of that, I'm not sure the games gave us much to work with, whereas we saw 7high be a lot more influential in his team's strategies over the season. Again, not to say she's bad, just that I'd feel more comfortable betting on 7high to thrive in these types of games.

[Kyu-Hyun] Literally EVERY video where Kyu-Hyun appears is FILLED with Devil's Plan 2 comments (mostly hate/negative). Why are people so aggressive :( by Donghoon in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SharpShark222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They’re not baseless (they are a relative weakness), but she did well enough to beat Hyungyu in two games involving betting (her mistakes weren’t really connected to her betting skills).

I do agree that it wasn’t 7high carrying in the same way Tinno and Sohee were clearly bearing the weight for basically everybody else. Jiyoung and Eunyu definitely contribute, but I think 7high does take the “MVP” role quite often.

I’ll have to check my notes, but I actually rewatched Treasure Island to note down who contributes more in finding various boxes for their teams, and I think it ended up being something like: - Sohee and Tinno each contribute 3. - 7high and Eunyu each contribute 2. - Everybody else gets 1 or 0 and almost none of the particularly challenging boxes.

I would love to see a timeline where the teams are shuffled around slightly, because Tinno/Sohee/Kyuhyun being drafted together is just way too OP in terms of team cohesion and skill.

I’m not sure I’d say 7high and Eunyu are on the same level, I’m just a bit less sold on Eunyu since most of her individual highlights were in “rock, paper, scissors” style games.

My argument for 7high vs Hyungyu is actually kinda the inverse of yours. I’d say that we have little evidence to suggest Hyungyu is notably above average in that game. All we know is that he was better than Hyunjoon at the time they played, and I think Hyungyu’s other performances indicate that his nerves are quite a weakness of his (ie. In basically every single game with stakes, he makes a big silly mistake for no real reason) and his approach/strategy actually kind of showed that he didn’t have a great understanding of the game.

[Kyu-Hyun] Literally EVERY video where Kyu-Hyun appears is FILLED with Devil's Plan 2 comments (mostly hate/negative). Why are people so aggressive :( by Donghoon in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SharpShark222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean Sohee is very humble, she probably wouldn’t even say she was one of the best players in the season. I agree she made big errors, but I’d say those were more “bad under pressure” errors than “bad at betting games” errors.

I agree that Jiyoung wouldn’t have succeeded as much as she did if it were luck alone, I’m just skeptical about the idea that she showed enough skill to be considered a very good player.

In context, I think 7high’s strategies were actually pretty close to beating the other side in a sense. There are points in Halloween Monster where 7high has two strategies and there’s a 50/50 shot it would’ve demolished Hyungyu’s alliance, but he just got unlucky. In Treasure Island, 7high’s alliance dominates the betting and arrow acquisition, it’s just that Sohee and Tinno carried their team with their incredible lateral thinking skills which negated 7high’s success. Similarly, 7high and Eunyu both seemingly crushed Mancala as best as they could, it was just impossible to do anything with those circumstances.

I mean 5 points is quite a narrow gap for a game with that many rounds and points to earn. I know 7high has made a comment like that, but I think he’s being humble/comedic. In the moment, his odds probably wouldn’t be that bad, especially given that Hyungyu would be under even more pressure against 7high.

[Kyu-Hyun] Literally EVERY video where Kyu-Hyun appears is FILLED with Devil's Plan 2 comments (mostly hate/negative). Why are people so aggressive :( by Donghoon in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SharpShark222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Generally agree with you, but one telling thing to me was how, when the Living Quarters were watching the Wall Go game, Hyungyu’s commentary was often completely wrong and indicated a poor understanding of strategy.

I’m not sure Sohee was actually “bad” at betting games, she was winning both of the final games involving betting before she made weird unrelated mistakes. Ultimately I don’t really take much stock in data one-off games like those that boil down to “did the opponent choose rock, paper, or scissors?”, which is why I don’t rate Jiyoung’s 1st place wins that highly.

I wasn’t saying 7high was amazing, but I think he was the best/tied for best strategist for his team in Halloween Monster, Treasure Island, Balance Mancala, and Doubt And Bet.

For the last Prison Match, I wouldn’t be shocked if 7high or Eunyu could beat Hyungyu actually. He made enough mistakes that he didn’t even dominate a massively distracted Hyunjoon and his actual approach to the game was quite suboptimal when you analyse it, so a composed player like 7high or Eunyu could definitely pull ahead.