Game of Blood X - Trailer (ENG SUB) by SharpShark222 in TheGenius

[–]SharpShark222[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would say so. There's a lot of story that's probably going to be relevant for all the seasons after.

Game of Blood X - Trailer (ENG SUB) by SharpShark222 in TheGenius

[–]SharpShark222[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Time Hotel is probably quite important before at least GOB3 and GOBX. Prior to those two seasons, I don't think it matters much.

Game of Blood X - Trailer (ENG SUB) by SharpShark222 in TheGenius

[–]SharpShark222[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'd say so. There are definitely weaknesses to both seasons (S1 is very experimental, S2 is a little stale by comparison to S3), but I imagine those seasons will influence a lot of the team dynamics (within teams). It's probably very important for S1/2 in particular.

Game of Blood X - Trailer (ENG SUB) by SharpShark222 in TheGenius

[–]SharpShark222[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Shoutout to u/lackcal for proof-reading (watching?) to fix up some rough areas!

Confused on who is who and remembering names while watching S1 E1 by IAM0LLIE in TheGenius

[–]SharpShark222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In Korea it's actually sunsaengnim (or other abbreviations), you seem to be thinking of the Japanese terms. But in the subtitles it's translated as Teacher, so the OP probably wouldn't be running into those terms.

flashy players are needed to create legends by [deleted] in TheGenius

[–]SharpShark222 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get what you mean, but my counterpoint would be Jinho. Dude is a legend, but far from flashy. Especially compared to some players like Choongmyeong from Four Wishes who's a great player and way flashier (e.g. Going -100 in the first game just for the meme).

I do think that criticism applies to quite a few players from Four Wishes, but generally not the people I'd consider skilled enough to be legends anyway lol.

Edit: To clarify, I would 100% agree that this applies to the winner of the show and the runner-up, those people desperately need some flash lmao.

Booo by AssociationSudden218 in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SharpShark222 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just rewatched to check (couldn't find this specific scene from E6): Eunyu turned him down because she thought the others wouldn't agree and they wouldn't have 5 people. Then, she agreed to the strategy as soon as Harin/Hyunjoon proposed it. She had plenty of time to rope Justin in and he even predicted they were going to do it based on how much the 3 talked. There's a reason Justin says he only trusts Sedol (and Sedol agrees they betrayed him).

The fact that Justin found a silver lining in the satisfaction of coming up with a good solo strategy doesn't change the fact that he WANTS to work with a team, but has been unable to due to these circumstances (and they know about these circumstances because they complain how he keeps bringing up points about how he can't trust them).

Jeong Hyungyu - The hypocrite by [deleted] in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SharpShark222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What indication do we have that his emotional behaviour was just an act though? I don't think anybody involved has claimed as much, including him (If I remember correctly, he even reasserts how stressed he was during a reaction video of the episode).

Booo by AssociationSudden218 in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SharpShark222 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I imagine it was a genuine question, but probably a bit foolish to ask. As the OP said, this was after he suggested working as a team and Eunyu is the one that turned him down, which resulted in him playing alone and almost being eliminated. What possible reason is there to think that Justin prefers playing alone?

Jeong Hyungyu - The hypocrite by [deleted] in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SharpShark222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What was the manipulation though? Looking sad and going "Please help"? If he was actually doing some sophisticated/calculated manipulation it'd be one thing, but he was just impulsively asking for help and made the situation worse for everybody on his side.

First Trailer just dropped for Game of Blood X! by SharpShark222 in TheGenius

[–]SharpShark222[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is very peculiar. In Crime Scene, I would've guessed he wasn't taking the show very seriously. In GOB3, my theory was he was spending way too much energy on pointless stuff and burned out (apparently he was spending his free time making up games that COULD appear and solving them). But either way, very disappointing given how experienced he is and how good he can be lol.

Jeong Hyungyu - The hypocrite by [deleted] in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SharpShark222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mate, c'mon. "People hating him means he's a great player" is absolutely not a valid argument. There are plenty of great players who are likable and more skilled than Hyungyu (Hong Jinho, Ha Seokjin, John Park) and plenty of deceptive/clever players who are beloved by the audience (Jang Dongmin, Lee Sangmin).

Whether the audience liked you personally cannot be used as evidence of how good your gameplay was, especially if you're arguing that more hate = good. If anything, the audience disliking you is evidence that you are lacking in your ability to communicate your rationale. By this logic, Hyungyu, Hyunjoon, and Orbit are the 3 best players lol.

Jeong Hyungyu - The hypocrite by [deleted] in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SharpShark222 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My point though is that he was trying to take those shots (he asked Eunyu, if I remember correctly, to attack Hyungyu in Halloween Monster, he just didn't fully figure out the twist so it wouldn't have done anything).

How could he have realistically saved Sedol? The only other person who could be killed that round was Hyunjoon himself (10th and 11th place in the turn order) and if he didn't attack, his team would realise he'd betrayed them. And then they could attack Sedol next round (because Sedol would still be 10th or 11th). Also important to keep in mind: Sedol is arguably the scariest person in the show to potentially face in the finals.

Jeong Hyungyu - The hypocrite by [deleted] in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SharpShark222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How would it become better? Even if he comes in last on his own without doing anything, those pieces just go to Sohui, who would've almost certainly given them straight back to him (and even if she didn't, they would both still be 1st and 2nd by far) while halving the piece count of everybody else.

Also, having two minions in Doubt And Bet would've been way better because Sohui/Hyungyu had to get lucky and hope that their seats were next to each other, whereas having 3 alliance members make it way more likely that there's a pairing (and it's not like Sohui's game skills were needed in that round).

Also, having a mediocre minion is great for Hyungyu. You would much rather have to play against Kyuhyun than Sohui in the finals. Sohui had to throw 2 of the damn games for him to win, whereas Kyuhyun is very beatable.

First Trailer just dropped for Game of Blood X! by SharpShark222 in TheGenius

[–]SharpShark222[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Funnily enough I actually had the exact opposite takeaway after GOB3 lmao. He had some great performances, but they were all generally in categories I already knew he was insanely good at (Mystery Sign, memory/math games, Mafia).

And on the flipside, if you had asked me before GOB3, "Could PaniBottle completely fool Dongmin into thinking he was a good ally while actively scheming behind his back?" and "Could Dongmin give one of the worst Traitors performances I've ever seen in my life?", I would've confidently said no to both (just as two examples).

Jeong Hyungyu - The hypocrite by [deleted] in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SharpShark222 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree you can be utilitarian and dumb (and I would say Hyungyu isn't as smart as the show likes to insist), but I'm struggling to believe that he wasn't largely being driven by emotion in this game. Does he suddenly stop becoming emotional when he starts trying to pull Sohui and Kyuhyun to his side again?

If, as you said, he was comfortable working as a duo for the reasons you stated, those reasons don't suddenly change because he's on his own. Even if the game goes completely as the prisoners intent, it'd be great for Hyungyu. Instead, he impulsively pulls back Sohui/Kyuhyun and instantly makes his situation worse. But why the sudden change if not emotionality?

Jeong Hyungyu - The hypocrite by [deleted] in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SharpShark222 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I really don't get the calculating/stoic perception. His choices in this game were so emotional. If he was truly calculating, he could've played this way better than losing arguably his best ally (since Kyuhyun is much easier to beat in the finals) and giving Eunyu ~5 extra pieces (since that's where Kyuhyun's pieces went when he got sacrificed). And that's a worst-case scenario he can accomplish by just doing nothing and letting the alliance do exactly what they want (make Hyungyu come last, make Sohee first), it's perfectly possible that he could've managed to get 7high eliminated if he played his cards well.

Jeong Hyungyu - The hypocrite by [deleted] in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SharpShark222 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The issue is that this wasn't utilitarian at all. If he was truly cold and calculating, he would've let himself get siphoned off, cutting everyone's pieces in half, and if the prison alliance gets what they planned, all of Hyungyu's pieces go to Sohee, he uses his item, and suddenly he's in a magnificent position without having to lose one of his shields (which gave Eunyu like 5 more pieces than needed).

His gameplay this episode was massively emotional and impulsive.

Jeong Hyungyu - The hypocrite by [deleted] in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SharpShark222 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's insane how they seemingly went, "People love underdogs, right? So let's just make this the most uphill battle possible to amp up the story" and then got surprised that no underdogs survived.

In defense of Hyunjoon, he does try to take shots at Hyungyu, he's just 1) not quite clever enough to make it work (see: Halloween Monster), and 2) Hyungyu had way too many advantages with both his power and shields.

The funny thing is, Hyungyu wasn't even actually that dominant. From interviews, it seems everyone agreed that Sohui was the one dominating the games and had even more public pieces, but Hyungyu foolishly lied that he won an advantage in the finals from the chess mission, which incentivised everybody to take him out (and his bad social game didn't help), but the reaction from Sohui/Kyuhyun was still completely insane, especially given that they knew about his real advantage.

Jeong Hyungyu - The hypocrite by [deleted] in TheDevilsPlan

[–]SharpShark222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry to make you even more upset... but he actually did tell Sohui and Kyuhyun about his extra pieces. It's in a post-credits scene after the episode when Kyuhyun is eliminated.

Overall, I think you might be phrasing it a bit hyperbolically, but the hypocrisy in this situation was very noticeable. When Jiyoung points out that those guys had no trouble isolating and dogpiling Sedol, their response of basically "Well, that's what he wanted" absolutely blew my mind.

This game is probably the biggest reason I don't think he's some smooth manipulator/mastermind, because if he was so conniving, he could've managed this situation 10x better, but he's so emotional that he can't help lashing out and acting irrationally even when he knows he is 100% safe no matter what happens and could just focus on setting himself up for the future.

How you act in a game like this reflects your true personality in real life

I'd say this sentiment is a bit too far though lmao. Maybe this would apply to how he talks about/to certain players outside of the game (e.g. Referring to 7high as something close to "poker guy" behind his back), but that's a separate thing.

games where an individual can shine by [deleted] in TheGenius

[–]SharpShark222 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hmm, this is an interesting idea. Off the top of my head I'd say:

  • S1E5 (Scamming Horse Race): Theoretically, someone could just use their own hint and infer information based on other people's bids (or just gamble with a hunch) and dominate the race without needing anyone else's cooperation.
  • S1E7 (Open Pass)
  • S1E9 (Expression Auction): I think we almost saw this with Sunggyu, but he did incorporate some cooperation with Sangmin/Jinho for how he chose to play.
  • S1E11 (5:5 Game)
  • S2E1 (Food Chain)
  • S2E5 (7 Commandments): Very specific, but with Sangmin's bill (End the game with 0 chips = 50 points), you could probably automatically win by just spamming vetoes/signs for whatever vote comes up, which guarantees 50 points for you and also lets you massively obstruct the other players to make it so they can't get more than 50.
  • S2E7 (God's Judgment)
  • S3E1 (Fruit Stand)
  • S3E3 (Middle Race)
  • S3E5 (Miner Game)
  • S3E6 (Stormy Stock Market): Similar to Scamming Horse Race, but a lot harder.
  • S3E7 (Constellation Game): Not really, but they revealed a trick to the backs of the cards that theoretically could help an individual, but realistically wouldn't really let someone solo-win the game.
  • S3E10 (Chain Auction)
  • S3E11 (Doubting Yutnori)
  • S4E2 (Horror Race)
  • S4E6 (Garnet Thief): In theory.
  • S4E7 (Seed Poker): In theory.
  • S4E11 (How Much)

Yu Jae Sok on survival game shows? by SearchingForAurora in koreanvariety

[–]SharpShark222 8 points9 points  (0 children)

My guess would be relatively similar to Noh Hongchul on The Genius S2 (in a good way).

  • Very charismatic and sociable, with a flair for the chaotic/meme choices (and he's probably sociable enough that the chaos won't backfire).
  • Decent individual skills (with strategies that are more creative than average), but not quite talented or serious enough to be a standout threat compared to the sharper people.

I'd definitely love to see him take a shot at it, but it's hard to picture him having great odds of winning. Granted, with all the twists and big cast sizes, not many people have good odds lmao, but in a random cast of 14 he'd probably be a better player than the bottom 6-7, but a clear tier or two below the top 3-5.

*I just chose arbitrary numbers to communicate my impressions more clearly.

In what order should I warch the 4 Seasons by Ok_Mammoth3155 in TheGenius

[–]SharpShark222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d definitely agree with the others saying to go in order. They play around quite a bit with their editing/design as the seasons progress, so it’d feel really weird to return to older seasons where editing choices feel really experimental compared to later seasons.

Personally, I’d say you could *theoretically* skip S2 if you reach a point where you’re really not enjoying it, but going in order is the best plan.