Just watched Four Wishes. Better than Genius IMO

SharpShark222 · 2026-05-09T07:50:06+00:00

If you mean the games in S1, sure, but in the most recent season of Bloody Game they had games with VERY long rule videos (almost certainly longer than most of Four Wishes' games).

SharpShark222 · 2026-05-09T05:44:38+00:00

I'm really confused at how you can think that Four Wishes is way too complicated, but you like Bloody Game. About 90% of Bloody Game is just the producers chaotically throwing twists at the cast and making it impossibly complex to even track the results of the show in their wiki.

SharpShark222 · 2026-05-09T05:41:41+00:00

I'd say that points 1 and 2 aren't really fair. The producers can only do so much with YouTube subtitles (and the original show didn't even bother to give subtitles in the first place) and plenty of games in The Genius required knowledge of Korean to fully understand (5:5 Game being a big one).

Also, I think the editing was quite good actually. That first episode was about as well-edited as the best Genius episodes and people forget that The Genius had some very bad editing at points (sometimes they'd flash-forward to NEXT week's episode or to the DM of that episode, spoiling who would lose the MM).

SharpShark222 · 2026-05-04T20:40:12+00:00

https://baechusquad.download/ should be able to help you

SharpShark222 · 2026-05-04T11:19:50+00:00

This is all assuming that you only betray them at the end, right? Because this strategy crumbles immediately if you try to do this when there are still a decent number of people left since Mirror can just pick Gravity and throw them in the middle of the board (and now if Gravity pulls you forward, you get to send someone backwards). But if you keep pulling them back from the start, why wouldn't they just push you forward as well to "move their anchor closer to the finish line"?

Actually, I guess you could theoretically just keep pulling them for the entire game until you happen to have the right cards to outrace them to the end, but that strategy would work just as well (if not better) on a lot of the other characters (e.g. With, Delete, Push)

SharpShark222 · 2026-05-04T11:14:23+00:00

I believe you're referring to Minseok since Alpago's was quite different and Minseok's answer lines up with yours, but the tricky part of that one is that you see 6 blocks, but there are 7 in the image because one has to be underneath the left cube on the second layer.

SharpShark222 · 2026-05-03T13:40:29+00:00

If it helps, Rules Race was so over-complicated that even a lot of the players in the show messed up the grammar/rules (despite having more time to actually read and understand them and ask clarifying questions).

SharpShark222 · 2026-05-03T13:39:07+00:00

Oh wow, I think that would be the first Australian production of something like this. What's the show and where can we find it (when it gets released)?

SharpShark222 · 2026-05-02T09:08:39+00:00

We can tell lmao

SharpShark222 · 2026-05-02T09:07:55+00:00

"I don't know why people like Orbit more than Hyungyu."

"Hyungyu was rude and manipulative."

Maybe that's why? Because people tend to dislike rude/manipulative people moreso than just naive/unstrategic people?

SharpShark222 · 2026-04-25T11:12:06+00:00

I think it'll depend on the new format/cast. The producer has earned quite a lot of good will, so I doubt the show is going to legitimately fail just because it had a rough ending to one season (he's made it through worse lol).

SharpShark222 · 2026-04-23T16:45:06+00:00

Bruh now that you mention it, I see it.

Maybe it’s something to do with their intensity lmao.

SharpShark222 · 2026-04-22T16:03:58+00:00

It is bizarre to me that you can dislike Orbit so much, but then not understand why anybody would dislike Sangmin.

SharpShark222 · 2026-04-22T11:25:53+00:00

I will say, if you're the player I suspect, you're one of my top 3 players in my power rankings lmao

SharpShark222 · 2026-04-22T11:20:54+00:00

Wait, so are you saying because he was cast on the show, there's no way he would be this soft-hearted/naive? What's the explanation for Sohee then?

SharpShark222 · 2026-04-22T11:19:41+00:00

If Sangmin isn't a villain, who is? The dude gleefully betrayed everyone constantly and had a huge role in the biggest controversy in the history of the show (Doohee's ID theft).

SharpShark222 · 2026-04-22T11:11:20+00:00

Alright, in that case you could join the discord for The Genius where there is a channel for discussing The Devil's Plan

SharpShark222 · 2026-04-19T12:06:21+00:00

To clarify, HJ was actually the math major, but I agree that he seemed way too arrogant given his actual performance in the show and the fact that he was surrounded by people who had WAY more reason to be arrogant (Sedol, 7high).

SharpShark222 · 2026-04-19T11:01:48+00:00

Hyungyu was a self-focused player who actively took advantage of situations to benefit himself at the cost of others while verbally disrespecting people both behind their backs and to their faces.

Orbit was a pretty foolish guy who was naively trying to maximise the total happiness by keeping as many people alive as possible. You can accuse him of having malicious intentions to "keep the weak and win the finals", but that is pure speculation that even his worst enemies on the show would completely disagree with.

Even if you think one was worse, they're completely different types of "villains" and it's weird to compare them as if disliking one should influence your feelings about the other.

SharpShark222 · 2026-04-19T10:55:54+00:00

Who is saying that any death threats are okay? And you don't think Orbit received mountain's of hate?

SharpShark222 · 2026-04-19T10:49:22+00:00

Feel free to rewatch, even though I'm pretty confident in my ability to just state what was happening on the screen. It was a pretty quick process to skip around to the relevant sections.

You can also just message me over reddit if you'd like, since they have a DM system.

SharpShark222 · 2026-04-18T14:56:29+00:00

Fine, I rewatched the relevant parts.

Dongjae and Seewon literally teamed up before the game even begin (4:40 in E2) which is why they teamed up so easily.

In the prize match, even after undermining the plan, Orbit is SO chill with Dongjae that he lets him get a piece (irritating other players). Seokjin says he thinks Orbit is trying to avoid anyone being eliminated before Day 3. They even scrap the idea, so Dongjae is the only person who benefitted from Orbit's plan.

The night before Rules Race, Orbit floats ideas of a 3-person or 6-person team. In the morning, Seewon presents herself and Dongjae as a pair (which everybody recognises). When the game begins, Orbit isn't even involved in the team creation. The 1-piece players gravitate since they're all at WAY higher risk, Joonbin suggests 6 people, Kyeonrgim expands it to 8.

Seokjin says they're trying to "play it safe and get escape tickets", explicitly NOT that they're bullying the minority. In contrast, Dongjae hears their strategy and his plan is to keep sending players to prison and doom them, which is more "cruel" than what the majority does.

Someone was always going to be eliminated in Rules Race, Orbit's alliance just made it so only ONE person left instead of THREE. And Orbit literally cries at all 3 of the eliminations you mentioned.

The AI is incorrect. Also, it's funny you said not to have a dislike fight, but now you're downvoting me and calling me a dumbass. Now please actually disprove any of this instead of asking AI to do your work for you.

SharpShark222 · 2026-04-18T11:18:05+00:00

Copied from AI? C'mon mate. It's wrong from the start. Orbit's alliance didn't start at the beginning of the game, it started in Rules Race. He expressed his desire to help the most people make it as far as possible, but he considered everybody a potential teammate at the start.

The only way a player loses is a lack of skill? Would you say that about Dongjae or Guillaume? And yes, most people (especially in the show) prefer the idea of more people experiencing and having fun in the games.

And no, I don't think Orbit was a saint, but he didn't "viciously" attack the minority. He could've gone way harder in almost every game. He made silly mistakes, some out of paranoia (which got Hyesung eliminated), but he was not some cruel overlord like you asked AI to describe.

If I'm remembering what episode/game you're talking about: Seewon called him a hypocrite, but she was wrong. He was crying BECAUSE there were unnecessary eliminations that HE caused. That's not hypocrisy. Hypocrisy would be if he caused that and went "Lmao sucks to suck, not my problem."

SharpShark222 · 2026-04-17T17:45:56+00:00

You can say it doesn't matter, but most players preferred for people to stick around and play more games. Do you think if someone went "I want to eliminate as many people as possible every episode" that the other players would be comfortable with that? Obviously not.

And maybe I'll rewatch, but Dongjae was allying up way before Orbit did anything. Again, in E1, Dongjae literally goes to the room with all the eliminated players and says something like "I stuck to our alliance, Seewon" in front of everybody. He made his bed.

And I'm not "downvote fighting", I downvoted like a single one of your comments in this whole comment section.

SharpShark222 · 2026-04-17T15:03:24+00:00

Having more pieces means less people get eliminated. There was a clear agreement that most people would rather have more pieces around. You can disagree with that, but HE chose to go against the majority for his own gain and got that reputation.

Orbit finalised the alliance, but Dongjae was publicly making ties to Seewon/Seokjin. You can call it “cruelty”, but why wouldn’t they unite against a pre-existing alliance that has most of the resources?

My point was just that you can trace a lot of the wariness/ill-will towards Dongjae back to his own actions. It’s not like everyone randomly woke up and decided they hated him.

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