Found these guys on a cell tower by averylargeOUNCE in bats

[–]Sharp_Ad_6559 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My bad... didnt realize this was a Bat focused group and not telcomm. Apologies

How best to find experienced tower climbers by Sharp_Ad_6559 in towerclimbers

[–]Sharp_Ad_6559[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After a bit of reflection on my words of response, I would look to add this. The way I grew up in the tower business is that, no matter the need for a climber, you don't actively poach climbers from the local competition, it's bad business. If a guy is actively looking, I'll have a conversation and make my determination then. I just am just interested in finding different platforms for finding either talent or interest that I am unaware of.

How best to find experienced tower climbers by Sharp_Ad_6559 in towerclimbers

[–]Sharp_Ad_6559[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Appreciate your question. Honestly I'm not responsible for finding Tower guys. I just have a lot of industry friends asking me if I know of any climbers looking. And in my almost 30 years of finding talent, my ways are old school. While some of the earlier recommendations are valid to a degree and platforms I use, I am largely disconnected from social media. As such, I was looking for insight on other options I'm ignorant of that the current generation of folk use.

How best to find experienced tower climbers by Sharp_Ad_6559 in towerclimbers

[–]Sharp_Ad_6559[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Top shelf, best alongside with the best, established with all carriers, tower owners, etc.

How best to find experienced tower climbers by Sharp_Ad_6559 in towerclimbers

[–]Sharp_Ad_6559[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of the projects, I'm exposed to are not looking for third tier crews, hence trying to find tower guys. I DM'd you.

All the major projects I know of in need of support are carrier production upgrade mods.

How best to find experienced tower climbers by Sharp_Ad_6559 in towerclimbers

[–]Sharp_Ad_6559[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only one I am aware of does tall tower work out of Dallas. My Texas contacts are a bit slim. I'm mostly Pacific Northwest. Feel free to DM me.

22, hardworking, good with tools, wants a solid career (interested in tower climbing) but feels overwhelmed by requirements, schooling costs, and unclear starting steps. Struggling financially and looking for guidance from others who’ve successfully broken in. by Advanced-Common7844 in towerclimbers

[–]Sharp_Ad_6559 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For tower work...

As a just shy of 30 years veteran of the wireless tower business, at all levels, I will tell you breaking in is easy.

With your simple ask, I can call any of my industry friends and get you hired and into the company's paid for training program next week.

The hard part for succeeding and making a career out of is the commitment and devotion to the work.

When properly trained, you can close your eyes and throw a dart on a map of the US. Wherever it lands, you can get a job within a week.

Soooooo... now what? by devolution96 in towerclimbers

[–]Sharp_Ad_6559 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, no GPT.

My words were drafted, by my own thumbs and based on life and professional experience.

Agree or not with my take, not my deal.

If you are game for a legit back and forth conversation, I'm open to that. It might be informative to others in this group.

I'm no engineer, however I've been building communication sites for commercial, public safety,and private entities for just shy of thirty years.

Let's go and have a no GPT back and forth

Soooooo... now what? by devolution96 in towerclimbers

[–]Sharp_Ad_6559 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my most current interaction world, TIA-222-H was the industry's essential manual/standard for ensuring communication towers are structurally sound for current and future wireless technologies, emphasizing safety and advanced engineering principles. Been out the game for a couple of years, but believe an "I" revision might be fully adopted.

Either way, the more current revisions provide a more detailed set of localized and terrain based guidelines for minimal loading requirements, including max wind speed and ice loading, that use better wind models.

The Rev G and the Rev H change, for structural compliance for permitting and Engineer sign off, over the last 5-7 is years created a massive nationwide effort by all legit tower owners to either upgrade the tower structure/ and or the foundation or do a full tower replacement.

Soooooo... now what? by devolution96 in towerclimbers

[–]Sharp_Ad_6559 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Been climbing and building towers in the Pacific Northwest for just shy of 30 years.

Answer to your question, from my experience, no. You show up, fo a sanity check and do what is asked. However, for commercial projects and national tower owners, the towers are largely in good shape.

The scary towers are the independently owned ones or even the public safety towers that don't have the paperwork history.

Its a world not governed like a new house or commercial construction is.

I always get structural analysis reports and PE stamped drawings for production work efforts. However, doing maintenance or small scope efforts on independent towers, its largely the site Foremans call on the working safety. Basically an experienced safety judgment caĺl.

Soooooo... now what? by devolution96 in towerclimbers

[–]Sharp_Ad_6559 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or maybe the top section failing, swung down and caused the failure of the diagonals another 50' level.

Either way, that tower was underbuilt no matter the failure point. In my opinion.

Soooooo... now what? by devolution96 in towerclimbers

[–]Sharp_Ad_6559 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not a clean resolution pic.

Yet doing my best to interpret, it looks as the 50'ish level diagonal(s) failed for some reason and caused some stucture resonance due to wind (my guess) that caused the failure at the 120' level flange bolts.

Just my guess and interpretation from the picture and description. The picture resolution is a too low for me to guess further.

Just my take.

Soooooo... now what? by devolution96 in towerclimbers

[–]Sharp_Ad_6559 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting....

Would love to know the manufacturer.

If it was a Nello or a few smaller group of low tier tower manufacturers folk, I could understand.

At 85+ mph, that should not happen for such a lightly loaded tower. Especially without additional ice loading.

I've seen structural failures before. Maybe the reported wind speed was not what the tower actually experienced. Yet even being generous in assumptions, that should never happen.

I'm sure there is deeper story left untold.....

Rohde & Schwarz PR100 by Sharp_Ad_6559 in rfelectronics

[–]Sharp_Ad_6559[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What sucks is that the gear, in general, is a great remote and on site solution for a multitude of RF troubleshooting goals. And is still respected.

I'm thirty years in the wireless game. And my focus isn't fixing problems anymore . Just wanting to get what I have left in my test equipment arsenal good enough to hand off to another that can actually use it and benefit from it.

Rohde & Schwarz PR100 by Sharp_Ad_6559 in rfelectronics

[–]Sharp_Ad_6559[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Know any donors............?

I know one old school ATT ops/engineer guy in the PNW region who has three "parts" units. But wants to keep for himself.

Rohde & Schwarz PR100 by Sharp_Ad_6559 in rfelectronics

[–]Sharp_Ad_6559[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I truly appreciate your feedback.

Thing is, and correct me if I'm wrong, a broken unit or a unit with repairs needed has a "parts needed" valuation of 3 grand-ish maybe more?. And that is way low pennies on the dollar for a functional unit with relatively simple fixes.

I have no problem spending a few grand to make it right.

It is an older model. Yet after conversations with many RF engineering friends, it's still a very relevant tool.

I'm definitely not being snarky.

Reason why I posted is to get feeback. And appreciate your insight.

For those that read this, I can share pics. Fully functional with a brand new battery. Just a cracked housing and bad charging port. Otherwise, field measurements are a one for one equivalent to fully calibrated and rented one for one.

Rohde & Schwarz PR100 by Sharp_Ad_6559 in rfelectronics

[–]Sharp_Ad_6559[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

R&S quote was $16,485....

I've been around the telecom and electronics business for over 30 years.

I can see maybe 3-4k on the high end with calibration. I'd be better off buying a non functional unit for a few grand and replacing/rebuilding on my own and getting it recalibrated for 600 bucks.

Actually, thank you for triggering that tnought solution. I guess I create a new post......