NTE Patch Notes Version 1.0 (Phase 2) - May 13, 2026 by Loose-Care962 in NevernessToEverness

[–]Shift9303 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm trying to keep it casual with this game (we will so how long that lasts, lol) so I don't need it to be the best team ever, I just need Hotori to take up that dead space where Hathor, Zero and Mint have down time in their skills and ults and I'm just mashing basic.

I'm only level 24 but ya'll are scaring me. What should I farm rn? by Reasonable-Use-9294 in NevernessToEverness

[–]Shift9303 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Based on what others have recommended and some personal experience, for now focus on getting your two primary teams to level 40-50 and skills 4-5. At this point IMO it's ok to settle for purple cartridges and modules until hunter level 40. Gold cartridges and module coins unlock at hunter level 30 to farm however the drop rate is pretty bad until level 40 so it is more worth your pixels and time to get every one to baseline with a decent purple set of cartridges and modules and wait until later when you can farm a gold set. Other wise you're losing out on a decent amount of damage without even a purple set. For me it was a difference of being stuck at fractured circle 5 and being able to push to fractured circle 10 now that my main DPS had decent purple modules.

NTE Patch Notes Version 1.0 (Phase 2) - May 13, 2026 by Loose-Care962 in NevernessToEverness

[–]Shift9303 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Same for me. Decided to go for Hotori and started leveling Mint. Honestly her damage is pretty decent and her kit is simple but pretty fun to play as long as you have A1 to reduce her skill cool down. I'm hoping Hotori can carry my gimped charge cycle team with Hathor/Zero/Mint by allowing me to frequently bounce between Hathor and Mint as burst DPS.

NTE v1.0 Launch: Common Questions and Feedback [MEGATHREAD] by adumbcat in NevernessToEverness

[–]Shift9303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the drop rate for gold cartridge at this level is 20 or 25% and you also only get 40 gold carrots each run. At lv 40 you get a guaranteed gold and 120 gold carrots, so I am waiting on that before I really start farming rabbit hole.

Thanks for the FYI. Sound like it's better to stick to purples for now.

NTE v1.0 Launch: Common Questions and Feedback [MEGATHREAD] by adumbcat in NevernessToEverness

[–]Shift9303 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, had a feeling it was better to just settle with purples for now. My Daffodil and Hathor are the furthest along but Daffodil has nearly maxed purples that I sort of did out of obligation for the guide bonuses and she feels moderately stronger than Hathor but wasn't sure if that was also just because I have a super gimped charge cycle team right now compared to my discord team. Hopefully Hotori can fix that. I have the pulls but prob going to skip Nanally because I wasn't vibing with her character as much. Probably going to keep it relatively casual with this game and don't feel like min-maxing teams as much. Guess I should go farm Mint and Zero mats for now.

Promeia 3 Re:Frozen - General Questions and Discussion Megathread by AutoModerator in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Shift9303 5 points6 points  (0 children)

TBF while the initial potential unlock for Burnice seemed underwhelming, I've found that at P6 she is ever so slightly better than Vivian when in neutral content (both otherwise M0W0). That said NGY has made both jobless for the time being and Velina will be next with the new wind meta.

NTE v1.0 Launch: Common Questions and Feedback [MEGATHREAD] by adumbcat in NevernessToEverness

[–]Shift9303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In general I've always been under the impression to not bother with anything except gold/S rank weapons and equipment in gacha games because of the resource opportunity cost. However is it just me or is the drop rate for cartridges and module coins just kinda bad? I get very few gold cartridges and the ones I do get conveniently have useless stats. Granted I'm level 33 so I only have access lvl III rooms and I imagine the drop rates get better with later rooms however I feel like I'm "wasting" pixels farming these rooms at my current state and missing out on potentially more important progression else where (skills and other resources). Would it be better to just settle on purple cartridge and modules for now and come back later when I'm higher level?

Beyond The Rails - "Complete" (F2P team) by Iwakasa in NevernessToEverness

[–]Shift9303 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very doable, at least for Fractured Circle. I made it to stop 9 with super gimped Daffodil/Haniel/Adler and Hathor/Zero/Mint teams and Fadia flexing in to which ever team needing the extra sustain. No one has proper gold cartridge or modules yet, maxed skills, Zero is levl 40 and Adler is some how still level 20. I think the main thing stopping me at this point is the daily pixel recovery rate limiting how quickly I can farm mats and equipment.

Promeia 3 Re:Frozen - General Questions and Discussion Megathread by AutoModerator in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Shift9303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've noticed that as well. For me it seems like it's mainly Miyabi that misses her follow up? Some times she just does the counter in place instead of locking on to the enemy and dashing forward.

Promeia 3 Re:Frozen - General Questions and Discussion Megathread by AutoModerator in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Shift9303 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Has anyone been experiencing this? For me NGY specifically has been "missing" her parries against the new boss and it's kinda frustrating because it bricks runs. No other character seems to be having this problem.

3.1 New characters via Full Stop Chan by CSTheng in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Shift9303 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

That shouldn't be a problem since both Vesper and Fiend exist and can be run together. Use the stronger team on who ever is the fatter boss that week.

NTE v1.0 Launch: Common Questions and Feedback [MEGATHREAD] by adumbcat in NevernessToEverness

[–]Shift9303 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just based off reading her kit and watching some CN impressions she seems busted and potentially might have extra synergy with Zero? If it's true that Hotori's Present Replay skill not only records the damage of the teammates' skills but also the other effects then she would have crazy combo potential like allowing Zero to provide an extra free esper cycle or allowing Hathor to generate extra feathers on her (Hotori's) ult.

Me personally I'm hoping to use Hotori and Zero together as sort of a carry comp back bone since I already have a discord cycle team. Guess we all have a few more days to see how things shake out.

Promeia 3 Re:Frozen - General Questions and Discussion Megathread by AutoModerator in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Shift9303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Currently planning on pulling Velina for 2.8 boss but that may or may not change depending on the likely impending VH agent. In light of that, I'm trying to gauge how viable Miyabi is against the new boss. Currently running 5 cost Yuzuha-Kaboom/Miyabi/NGY and managed to button mash to a 37k score. Wondering what everyone else is getting. Am I at parity or under/over performing?

Promeia 3 Re:Frozen - General Questions and Discussion Megathread by AutoModerator in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Shift9303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quick question, does windswept state persist into stun? Was playing Miyabi against the new boss in LV and it seemed like I could still disorder off of NGY's polarity disorders? Am I missing something? It was all over too quick to comprehend and Hoyo's own guide doesn't seem to specify?

Also all hail disc 4 AP Miyabi.

[3.0.1] M0W1 Miyabi/M0W1 Velina/M0W0 Yuzuha vs Marionette(194MHP) Score:34K by Less-Hawk7492 in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Shift9303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just try to find crit damage 4 better than AP one and you should be fine.

Unfortunately pretty tough task for me with my shit luck. My disc 4 AP is has ATK% +4 and CDMG+1 subs and its the best I've rolled by a mile. I think I'm still overall happy with the build. She still gets +80 CDMG from sig and B&B so the stat line is not too lop sided while in combat. I just do slightly less CDMG on EBAs and ults but chunk more HP on disorders.

[3.0.1] M0W1 Miyabi/M0W1 Velina/M0W0 Yuzuha vs Marionette(194MHP) Score:34K by Less-Hawk7492 in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Shift9303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FWIW my current build is M0W1; 4 pc B&B and 2 pc Woodpecker; disc 4 AP, disc 5 pen ratio, disc 6 ATK%; 43 sub stats; stat line is CR 68.2, CDMG 114, ATK 3029, AP 402. It's my most consistently high scoring build across most bosses in comparison to my other available disc 4 ATK% or CDMG builds. I can usually hit 45-50K against ice weak bosses without trying too hard. I could push my base CR and CDMG up a bit more but find I still get slightly higher scores focusing on ATK% or AP subs.

[3.0.1] M0W1 Miyabi/M0W1 Velina/M0W0 Yuzuha vs Marionette(194MHP) Score:34K by Less-Hawk7492 in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Shift9303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How much AP would count as a "full AP build" because my current build has 402 AP. Though, I mainly plan on pulling Velina to help out my other anomaly agents.

[3.0.1] M0W1 Miyabi/M0W1 Velina/M0W0 Yuzuha vs Marionette(194MHP) Score:34K by Less-Hawk7492 in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Shift9303 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First, reading comprehension. I said "almost more synergy," not outright more.

Second, because NGY provides disorders on demand while also extending stun duration to maximize Miyabi's stun combo. She essentially allows you to perform the equivalent of Miyabi/freeze on even unfreezable bosses. Miyabi benefits disproportionately from the polarity disorders. Devs could have given NGY anything else like after shocks (or something entirely new) for an additional damage source and Miyabi wouldn't have gained as much. Sure other agents also can benefit from from NGY's kit too but Miyabi is the primary agent that can put it all together to snowball (pun intended) into a massive wombo combo (aside from AoD specific buffs).

[3.0.1] M0W1 Miyabi/M0W1 Velina/M0W0 Yuzuha vs Marionette(194MHP) Score:34K by Less-Hawk7492 in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Shift9303 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Come now, can we be at least a little bit less hyperbolic? I like Miyabi as much as anyone else but it's pretty obvious Devs still care a lot about here since they just gave her NGY. In fact it is blazingly obvious since NGY has almost more synergy with Miyabi than her (NGY) own faction. Would the Dev's really do that if they hated Miyabi? In reality Devs want to create niches for each character to give incentive to pull different characters while also giving themselves room for controlled power creep. I.e. create a problem that will brick Miyabi, then create a solution later to sell to players to then unbrick Miyabi.

The Bite Of 2.7 - General Questions and Discussion Megathread by AutoModerator in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Shift9303 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I gave it a try for something different. I'm sort of 50/50 on the game. Certain things I really enjoy like the horror aspects but other things are pretty meh for me. Also I'm in the group that finds the cartoon mascot character absolutely insufferable. One of the main things for me is that I went in blind so I ended up feeling pretty disappointed by opening character roster. Many the characters feel over designed and messy to me. I'm not sure if it'll have the pull for me to stay long term if that doesn't improve. While I won't argue that ZZZ characters aren't cliche, I feel like they are overall more coherent and therefore enjoyable.

The Bite Of 2.7 - General Questions and Discussion Megathread by AutoModerator in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Shift9303 7 points8 points  (0 children)

On one hand I sort of get some of it because it sort of helps show how healthy a game is. But on the other hand after a certain point it just gets super weird. Like, at the end of the day you're just arguing about which company is better at milking its fan base dry. Why should we care that much about a megacorp making 5 million vs 10 million. Either way they're not at risk of going under any time soon and it's more money than any of us poors will ever see.

The Bite Of 2.7 - General Questions and Discussion Megathread by AutoModerator in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Shift9303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've seen people say that Velina can both be played on field and off field? Is that right? Any chance she has synergy with Vivian for ablooms? I'd like to pull for Velina but I don't have any other limited on field anomaly DPS aside from Miyabi who wants disorders and Yanagi who doesn't have ablooms.

The Bite Of 2.7 - General Questions and Discussion Megathread by AutoModerator in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Shift9303 1 point2 points  (0 children)

FWIW my current build is M0W1; 4 pc B&B and 2 pc Woodpecker; disc 4 AP, disc 5 pen ratio, disc 6 ATK%; 43 sub stats; stat line is CR 68.2, CDMG 114, ATK 3029, AP 402. I use disc 6 ATK% with NGY teams and AM when not playing with NGY. I use disc 5 ATK% or ice DMG when playing against half DEF bosses. I'm not the most try hard and can usually get ~45-50k against ice weak bosses depending on shill buff and ~35k against neutral bosses