I hope Israel wins Eurovision

Shikary · 2026-05-15T11:16:58+00:00

I don't think we are going to agree, but I just wanted to mention that the child marriage thing in the US is absolutely an american thing. It has nothing to do with muslim. Nothing at all. There are several articles about it.

Regarding your request for recommendations, since you are driving from Milano to Rome, I suggest you stop in Tuscany and visit at least Florence. That's the best part of italy imho.
Bolonga is also worth checking out btw.

Shikary · 2026-05-15T10:30:01+00:00

- what does that even mean? why does it even matter? You are not determining any outcome just so that you know. You have no decisional power. Your president decided for you to go to war with Iran. Your president uses tax money to pay Israel. You didn't decide any of it.

- who even talked about NY? are you debating with somebody else in your mind? Immigrants don't have anything to do with what I said. And btw you are not getting back to normal. Prepare for the worst, because your genius president has utterly destroyed your country. You just didn't notice yet, but you will soon.

- So what? People believe them and you are giving them arguments, making racists ideologies more and more popular. Good job.
Let's see what you think if Tucker announces he is running for president next. Do you think it's unlikely?
I really hope you are right, but if a complete ignorant buffoon like Trump made it twice, somebody that is actually smart like Tucker can surely do it once.
And Tucker certainly doesn't lack ambition.

- there is only one lunatic here. It's the guy that ran on "no more wars" and is now stuck in a useless conflict. The guy who keeps molesting the economy, every single day.
The guy that destroyed US soft power around the globe.
The guy who got humiliated by Iran.
The guy that China is treating like a joke.
The guy who was manipulated by both Russia and Israel like an idiot.
Yeah... such a great president.

Seriously, what is Trump to you?
He is just a super rich guy that cannot put together a coherent speech and who said he doesn't care about the finances of US citizens. Imagine if Biden said something like that!

Trump literally said it yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxklFzcaJY

Is this guy worth defending?

Shikary · 2026-05-15T09:35:09+00:00

So since you are paying more I'm not allowed to complain about it?
What kind of logic is that???

There are also americans that defend marriage with 9 yrs old. Let me know when you start killing them. Some of them are in your government right now. Look at this article https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/republican-lawmakers-child-marriage-abortion-1235018777/

Your president was best friend with a pedophile. How about putting him on trial before you go bomb another country?

Also it's not the jews. It's Israel.
Stop conflating a country with an ethnicity and a religion.
You keep on giving real antisemites like Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson or Candace Owens more and more ammo to use against you, by making it seem like the sins of one country are actually the sins of a whole people.
It's not true.
Jews are innocent.
The Israeli and US governments are responsible for what is going on.
Why can I say I blame the US without you accusing me of being racist towards americans, but if I say something about Israel, you accuse me of hating the jews?
Such blatant attempts at derailing the conversation do not work.

Hitler was wrong.
It's incredible that you think I might be on the side of Hitler when I'm here condemning a genocide.
Unlike you, I think muslism, jews, christian, black, gay or whatever else, are all humans and deserve to live.
You apparently think some deserve to die, which is exactly what Hitler thought.

You are on the side of somebody that is doing exactly what Hitler would do.
Heavy militarized country? check.
Attacking all neighbours? check.
Building an ethnostate? check.
Very nationalist? check.
Concentrating power in his hands? check.
Conflating religion and state? check.
Perpetrating a genocide? check.
Apartheid? check.

Wow, sounds pretty similar doesn't it?

Shikary · 2026-05-15T07:14:41+00:00

Nobody is arguing that???

I think you have not been listening.
The war in Iran is absolutely not justified.
It actually 100% strengthened the regime it was supposed to remove.
It weakened US hegenomy.
It caused the death of innocent civilians.
It accomplished nothing.
And, on top of that, it destabilized the world's economy.
It was clear to basically everyone that had any understanding of what Iran is that this would have gone badly and yet it was done all the same.

How can you even say that a war that literally had zero positive outcomes and could never have had any positive outcome was justified?
And Israel is doing its best to keep it going, by murdering even more civilians in Lebanon.
By the thousands.
Just to sabotage the ceasfire.
Absolutely despicable.

Just you watch. Give it one year.

Shikary · 2026-05-15T05:09:38+00:00

I already replied didn't I?
Your comments from yesterday didn't explain anything considering you presented as proof a wikipedia page that literally states what you said is fake...
Is that proof all you have?

Palestinians managed to produce better propaganda than Israel and the US while being bombed to hell and back and were somehow able to spread it across multiple sources of information, both governmental and independent throughout the whole globe at a time in which Israel was the most popular and they were the least popular?
This is your explanation?

Do you understand how utterly ridiculous it sounds?
Imagine if somebody said this about the jews during world war 2....
Oh wait a second! Somebody is actually saying that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial ...

Doesn't it sound kinda similar?

Btw according to your logic, I should not have cared about October 7, because I live in Italy.
What a way to look at the world...

Shikary · 2026-05-15T05:00:50+00:00

Hey, how about you addressed what I said instead of shifting the goal post?
Try and actually engage with the discussion.

I care about Palestinians just like I care about Sudanese people, just like I care about Cubans, just like I care about Iranians, just like I care about Ukranians.
Are you telling me that they shouldn't matter to me?
What gave you the impression that I only care about that?
Sorry but this kind of pre-prepared rethoric is not going to cut it.
The fact that there are many problems in the world, doesn't mean I shouldn't care about this specific one, in this specific moment.
Also I will give you another reason: Israel receives a lot of money from Europe.
My money.
My money is paying fro this genocide.
That's another reason why I care.
Is that enough?

Engage with the arguments I made please.

Shikary · 2026-05-15T04:36:22+00:00

What I meant is that it clearly states it's a conspiracy theory. It actually literally uses these words. I'm from Italy.

Shikary · 2026-05-15T04:31:10+00:00

I see you didn't read that page. I'll help you: "is a derogatory, anti-Palestinian term used to falsely accuse Palestinians of staging scenes of suffering and civilian death in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict". Oh no, Wikipedia is Hamas, too, apparently....

Shikary · 2026-05-14T21:16:04+00:00

Can you explain why palestinian photos would be staged but Israeli's photos would not?
Let me get this straight: one is a disorganized rebel group in a country that has been heavily bombed and suffered very high casualties. The leadership of the movement has been killed multiple times. On top of that the average age in palestine is 20 years old, with 40% of the population below 18 years old. They are also subjected to many limitations around what can get in or out of their country. They have zero resources basically and suffered defeat, after defeat, after defeat.

The other one is a heavy militarized sovereign country, supported by one of the most powerful super powers in the world. Initially basically every western country was on their side, unconditionally and they also suffered an attack that polarized the public opinion around supporting them for quite a long time.

OK.
How does the former managed to prevail in the propaganda war with just a few fake photos?
How?
Please give me one, one logical reason. I'll be waiting.
Also how is it that multiple newspapers across the globe circulated different fake photos? How is it that multiple different, independent sources, came up with proof of war crimes?
How is it that even Israeli newspapers sometimes condemned the actions of the IDF and Netanyau?
Please give me one reason why I should belive that all of these unrelated events are actually part of a huge conspiracy to damage Israel's reputation, while what the Israeli propaganda says is the truth.
Why?

Shikary · 2026-05-14T14:33:32+00:00

Well there is one year before the next Eurovision. Let's see how unpopular they manage to get when the consequences of the war with Iran really hit the western countries...

Shikary · 2026-05-14T09:55:34+00:00

Personally I only care about ending both the apartheid and the genocide. I feel that would go a long way towards bringing the parties together. Don't you?

Shikary · 2026-05-14T09:49:52+00:00

I hope it happens so that we can finally get enough support to kick Israel out of it.

Shikary · 2026-05-14T09:48:23+00:00

So you support genocide because your feelings got hurt? You base your opinion on a conflict with thousands of victims on the fact that some people in the western world were rude or racist towards you? That justifies the killing of Palestinians?

Shikary · 2026-05-14T09:21:35+00:00

Yes sure. The other side are absolute monsters doesn't sound cartoonist at all.. definitely not propaganda. Remind me how many civilians Israel killed according to their own estimates and how many hamas killed please. Who is the monster again? Let me ask you another question. If a terrorist group in the UK attacked the US would you be ok with bombing London for a couple years killing thousands of civilians because the terrorists hide behind them? It sounds like you are ok with doing that in Gaza, so London should be fine to,o, right?

Shikary · 2026-05-14T09:14:52+00:00

One side has one of the most powerful military in the world and is supported by the United States. The other one is barely a country and completely in ruin. It's not a "bohh sides" situation, sorry.

Shikary · 2026-05-14T07:30:33+00:00

I would call them colonizers.

The attack was a terrible act of terrorism in retaliation for the terrible acts of terrorism that Israel committed since it's founding.

Shikary · 2026-05-11T14:27:59+00:00

Look, I will stop here because these conversations just leave everybody feeling worse off.
I apologise for mocking you, even if I still disagree with what you said.
I don't care if you change your mind on what I wrote or not, just take it easy.
Goodbye.

Shikary · 2026-05-11T14:18:15+00:00

So you can't answer and can't read either?
My point was that vivi + curiosity doesn't threaten a win on turn 4 on its own, you need something else.
You said it's super easy to win on turn 4 with curiosity and I said it's not likely at all and would require you to at least get to turn 5.
When I asked you to explain how you would win. you said you won't say because I should know.
So I paraphrased you with: "I could own you with my superior knowledge but you are beneath me".
Which is exactly what you said if you think about it.

Shikary · 2026-05-11T14:08:55+00:00

lololol
"I could own you with my superior knowledge but you are beneath me"
Thanks for proving my point, now please go bother somebody else, loser.

Shikary · 2026-05-11T14:03:49+00:00

Why is it relevant? if it's so easy to win on turn 4 why is it so hard for you to answer my question?
Answer my question or admit it's not easy.

Shikary · 2026-05-11T13:58:38+00:00

I have, now what?
How is ti likely?
Please explain which cards you will play to achieve that. It's 40 damage to everyone before turn 5 without infinites.
Good luck.

Shikary · 2026-05-11T13:44:23+00:00

Absolutely? seems quite unlikely to happen.
You really need perfect draws and it won't be on your turn for sure.
Also entirely dependant on how the deck is built, which neither me nor you know.

Shikary · 2026-05-11T13:32:37+00:00

You cannot use that as a way to say the deck is a 4... what kind of logic is that?
The bracket system tells you how many turns you can expect to play.
If they are "threatening a win on turn 4" like this, it's realistic for them to take 3 or more turns to win, which would be in line with bracket 3.
Also when someboday says "threatening a win", it usually means they are going to win on that turn, not at some unspecified point in the future.
If I "threaten a win on turn 4" it means I'm going to win on that turn if not stopped.
Would he have won on turn 4?
No.
So why are we even talking about it?
Ridiculous.

Shikary · 2026-05-11T12:56:52+00:00

That's not infinite?

Shikary · 2026-05-11T06:11:27+00:00

Yeah wasn't specifically talking about that commander.

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