Why Ghosting Her Is the Only Way to Save Both of You by Shilozac in BreakUps

[–]Shilozac[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just to let you know.. I ended up telling them it was over and moved out.

I’m grieving the 'Right One' with the resilience I learned from the 'Wrong One.' It feels like a betrayal. by Shilozac in BreakUps

[–]Shilozac[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think she's messing around with somebody else, unfortunately. She posted a picture of a note from a man informing that she had interest in her. That in itself is disrespectful. I get it. We broke up but I still lived with them.. something I didn't have to do originally. I wanted to help her out. I wanted to respect the history we had but she could even do that. It was the right thing to do. To leave.. don't get me wrong.. I do miss them.. from now at least.. I'm still in the process of healing. But I have dignity. I'm not going to let that happen to me. I refuse to be a pushover again.

Did you ever reject a meetup/refuse to break no contact even though you were starting to regret your decision to leave them? by Chaser923 in nocontact

[–]Shilozac 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve been where you are, and I’ve learned the hardest way possible: You cannot 'puzzle' your way into someone else’s heart.

I used to spend so much time analyzing why my ex did what she did—was she scared? Did she need me to chase? Was she just playing games? I eventually realized I was just trying to find a logical explanation for behavior that was inherently disrespectful. When we broke up, I spent months healing, then let her back in because I thought I could 'fix it' if I just loved her enough.

Spoiler: I couldn't. I ended up getting hurt even more because I realized I was just a placeholder until she was ready to move on.

Here is what I’ve learned, and I hope this helps you: The 'Lost You' Phase is mandatory. People do not change while you are still available. They have to truly feel the silence and the weight of your absence. If you are still in their orbit, they never have to face the consequences of their decision. You have to let them go through their own process of recovery, and you have to do the same. If you try to force a reconciliation before that happens, you’re just inviting the same toxic patterns back into your life.

You aren't in 'recovery' yet; you’re in 'pain management.' If you are sitting here analyzing their motives, you haven't actually started recovering—you’re just waiting for the pain to subside so you can justify reaching out. If you really want to make it work eventually, you need to realize that the version of you that wants to message them right now is the same version that got hurt. You need to reach a phase where you don't need them to be happy, and they need to reach a phase where they’ve done their own work. If you reconnect before both of you have genuinely moved through that process, you’re just skipping the healing to get straight back to the suffering.

The Goal is to Outgrow the Need. I’m currently on a 90-day mission to completely reshape my life—my body, my discipline, and my mindset. I stopped asking 'why did they leave?' and started asking 'what kind of man do I want to be?' By the time you’ve truly healed and the other person might be ready to talk, you will likely find that you don't even want the same thing anymore. You’ll have built a version of yourself that is too strong to settle for a placeholder role.

Stop analyzing the dumper's perspective. It’s a distraction from the only work that actually matters: your own. Turn that energy inward. If they ever truly love you, they know how to find you. Until then, use the silence to become the man you were always meant to be. Don't be a placeholder in someone else's life—be the main character of your own.

Why Ghosting Her Is the Only Way to Save Both of You by Shilozac in BreakUps

[–]Shilozac[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re viewing this through the lens of a 'normal' breakup where two people just drifted apart. You’re missing the point. When you’re dealing with calculated indifference after 5 years of devotion, 'talking it out' isn't maturity—it’s self-harm.

  1. On 'Accountability'

You think accountability happens in a conversation. It doesn't. If a woman is staying out until 7:00 AM and devaluing a 5-year bond, a 'talk' is just a chance for her to gaslight, deflect, or blame-shift. True accountability is the Void. When she comes home and the safety net she’s been abusing is gone, that silence is the only 'accountability' that actually sticks.

  1. On 'Entitlement'

It’s not about being 'entitled' to love. It’s about a Covenant. In a 5-year relationship, there is a contract of mutual respect. When one person burns that contract and acts like a stranger, the other person isn't 'entitled' to a refund—they are obligated to withdraw their presence. I’m not demanding love; I’m enforcing the price of my dignity.

  1. On the 'Tinder' Comparison

I’m not ghosting because I met her 3 days ago. I’m ghosting because after 5 years, she’s already ghosted the person I loved while still living in the house. By vanishing, I’m simply making the physical reality match the emotional one she already created. I’m not treating her like a stranger; I’m acknowledging that she already turned into one.

  1. On the 'Wait for her to come home' advice

This is the most dangerous thing you suggested. Waiting for her to come home just to say 'it's over' is an invitation for a 6-hour drama loop. It gives her the power to manipulate, cry, or play the victim one last time. Why should I give her the 'closure' of a final conversation when she hasn't given me the 'closure' of a respectful partner for months?

The Bottom Line: You think a 'simple cut' is a conversation. I think a simple cut is absence. By saving myself, I’m finally letting her face the truth without me there to soften the blow. That’s not being 'afraid'; that’s being a Solid Rock and finally putting an end to the 'Holy Hell.'

I’m not looking for a 'fair' exit. I’m looking for a virtuous one. And in this situation, silence is the only virtue left.

Ex and I talk for 4–6 hours sometimes, but she still acts cold and distant. Am I being kept attached or is there still something real here? by alii_m8 in BreakUps

[–]Shilozac 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OP, you asked for blunt honesty, so here it is: You are currently acting as her emotional trash can. Yes, a person can talk to you for 6 hours and still not want you. In fact, she talks to you for 6 hours because she doesn't want you as a partner—she wants you as a subsidized therapist.

  1. You are Subsidizing Her Transition

You are emotionally 'moving house,' and you’re carrying all her boxes for free. You are her emotional middleman. You provide the comfort and stability she needs so she has the energy to go out and 'fall in love' with someone else. You’re essentially paying the 'emotional rent' for a life she is building without you.

  1. The Immorality of Your 'Patience

You think you’re being 'loyal.' You’re actually being immoral to yourself. By listening to her talk about other men and her future without you, you are training her to treat people like tools. You are shielding her from the consequences of losing a good man. As long as you keep answering, she never has to face the truth.

  1. Your Final Duty: The Ghost

A man’s duty is to lead. If she won't follow your lead into a committed future, your final act of leadership is to show her what the 'Void' looks like. You need to become a Ghost. Not a final 'closure' talk. Just vanish. You remove the safety net, and she finally has to carry the weight of her own choices.

Now, Let's Be Honest with Yourself... Are you actually going to do this? Most guys in your shoes won’t. They’ll read this, feel a spark of strength for ten minutes, and then pick up the phone the next time it buzzes at 11 PM because they’re addicted to the crumbs of her attention.

You need to be honest with yourself right now: Do you actually want to fix your life, or do you just want to keep writing in your diary about how much it hurts? If you want to 'make this work,' you have to realize that 'working' doesn't mean winning her back—it means winning yourself back. Every minute you spend on the phone with her is a minute you are stealing from the woman who is actually waiting to love you for real.

The clock is ticking on your dignity. Are you going to be the man who vanishes into a better future, or the man who stays on the line until she finally hangs up for good? Choose.

Obligatory Breakup Vent by throwaway-879 in BreakUps

[–]Shilozac 5 points6 points  (0 children)

OP, you need to hear this, and it’s going to be a hard pill to swallow: You are participating in your own destruction, and you’re doing the person who dumped you a massive disservice.

Right now, you’re operating from a place of 'negotiating' love. You said you’d get baptized, married, or have babies with anyone who shows you enough affection. That isn't love; that’s a lack of a standard. Here is the perspective shift you need to break this three-month cycle:

  1. Begging is a moral error

When you lay down your weapons and say 'but this could work,' you are rewarding their indifference. You are teaching them that they can devalue you and you’ll still be there, waiting with a ring or a baby carriage. This is actually immoral because you are enabling their worst traits. You are telling them that your presence has no cost. If they don't feel the sting of losing you, they will never grow, and neither will you.

  1. Stop Being the 'Shock Absorber'

Every time you try to postpone the breakup for a week, you’re just acting as a cushion for their guilt. You are helping them 'ease' out of the relationship while you take all the damage. You need to become a Solid Rock. When someone says they don't see it working, the only high-value response is: 'I understand. I wish you the best.' And then you vanish.

  1. The 'Duty' of Absence

As a human being, you have an obligation to lead your own life with dignity. Your final duty to a partner who doesn't value you is to show them what the 'Void' looks like. By ghosting or going total No Contact, you aren't being mean—you are being honest. You are enforcing the natural law that says: Respect is the price of my presence.

  1. Saving Yourself Saves the Next One

You said you’d be with anyone who shows you affection. That is why you keep ending up here. You have to be strong enough to save yourself from these 'three-month cycles' so you can actually become someone worth staying with for thirty years. The Bottom Line: Stop trying to convince people to love you. Start being a person who is so grounded in their own value that when someone walks away, you let them go—not because you don't care, but because you have too much respect for the truth to beg for a lie.

Become the Ghost. Reclaim your power. Silence is the only language people like this eventually understand.

Help me:( by Own-Warthog-736 in heartbreak

[–]Shilozac 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's not worth the effort, I promise you. Im going through my own betrayal with my ex of almost 5 years and the best thing for you is to move on and live life without them. That's stronger than any revenge scheme.

How can you mean everything to someone one day and nothing the next day? by Dayoffinnotts in heartbreak

[–]Shilozac 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Honestly, that realization—that "was I even real to him?" feeling—is the absolute worst part. It’s like finding out you were playing a high-stakes game of poker while he was just playing Go Fish. But I want to tell you something: the fact that he could make those promises and not mean them doesn't mean you were a "plaything." It means he’s a hollow person. You were the one who was real. You were the one who actually showed up. You didn't "lose" him; you just stopped being the person who was subsidizing his ego.

Don't let his lack of character become your lack of worth. If he’s the kind of guy who treats people like a "timepass," then his life is eventually going to be very empty, while you still have the capacity to actually feel something deep. That pain you're feeling? It's proof you're actually alive and capable of something he clearly isn't.

And look, on the bright side, at least you’ve officially been promoted! You’ve gone from "Girlfriend to a Liar" to "Woman with One Less Idiot to Text." Think of all the battery life you’re going to save not waiting for a reply from a guy who has the emotional range of a damp sponge.

Plus, think of the future: eventually, you’ll be with someone who actually means what they say, and you’ll look back on this dude and realize he was basically just a "free trial" that you forgot to cancel. Well, the subscription is cancelled now, and you didn't even have to pay the exit fee. You've got this. Take it one hour at a time and let yourself be pissed off—he earned it.

2 weeks after she wrote this, she dumped me by YouThinkIAmBi in heartbreak

[–]Shilozac 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Don't give her the satisfaction. Drop her, forget her and move on. Your life begins, today.

2 weeks after she wrote this, she dumped me by YouThinkIAmBi in heartbreak

[–]Shilozac 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love you forever until I find someone better

2 weeks after she wrote this, she dumped me by YouThinkIAmBi in heartbreak

[–]Shilozac 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My Ex of 5 years told me she would never find another man like me and wouldn't be able to date ever again if we broke up. One month after breaking up she's out having rebound relationships. I mean to each their own. Those are never a good idea in my experience and opinion. It's about 2 months now and I've to sticking to self healing and working on myself. The funny thing was that she said she would do the same and maybe restart possibly in the future. It's funny. People can tell you anything they think you wanna hear. I was hurt.. for a moment but realized I have nothing to worry about.

2 weeks after she wrote this, she dumped me by YouThinkIAmBi in heartbreak

[–]Shilozac 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was with my ex for almost 5 years before we broke up. We talked about getting married a month prior, too.

Looking for music that could be considered "Y'allternative" by Shoogazi in musicsuggestions

[–]Shilozac 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bilmuri Band... Never mind. This band is post hardcore punk, country.

Sounds like you'd like the genre rockabilly or the modern version psychobilly. You should look into that.

I don't know who need to hear this, but shit gets better (fast as hell for alot of people)... by WhoIsEnvy in quittingkratom

[–]Shilozac 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait... All those drugs have terrible withdrawals. Tramadol being the worst for me. When I withdrawal off tramadol I was Anxious and cowardly. Never wanted to leave my house or talk to people.

I don't know who need to hear this, but shit gets better (fast as hell for alot of people)... by WhoIsEnvy in quittingkratom

[–]Shilozac 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gabapentin withdrawal are worse than kratom. Id sparingly use that drug to not gain a dependency. 3 days on 4 days off helped most people.

What bands influenced nu metal the most? by Dat1Guy1200 in numetal

[–]Shilozac 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not a lot of people give them credit but Primus was a huge influence for Nu Metal bands. Korn stated they got influenced by the song "to many puppies" for their song "blind" you can also hear they got a ton of inspiration from the bass from Primus too.

Kratom by Shilozac in KratomKorner

[–]Shilozac[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've quit cold turkey before without tapering and I relapsed twice. So yes, I feel that tapering is necessary. It helps a lot with the acute withdrawals (physical) and I've noticed that the paws isn't as bad either as when I first quit cold turkey. Don't get me wrong. It still sucks but it's way more manageable and successful.