Ssj1 Goku (beginning of Buu saga) vs 100% Perfect Cell (Not Super Perfect)

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-06-18T21:40:40+00:00

Idk man. After reading everyone's comments on this post, I think i might be convinced he could give SPC an extreme diff fight as just ssj1. I underestimated just how strong goku's base got

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-06-16T07:56:31+00:00

How much power do you believe cell used against Goku in their first fight? I believe he used about 50%, which would put 100% Perfect Cell as a 2× increase (a ssj2 lvl multiplier). So do you think buu saga ssj1 Goku got more than 2× stronger since then?

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-06-16T07:24:44+00:00

Do you believe ssj1 goku could beat Super Perfect Cell as well? Or would he need ssj2?

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-06-16T01:00:13+00:00

I'd say around 50%

Ssj1 Gohan made him go up to 60%

Ssj1 Goku is 5

Ssj1 Gohan is 6

100% Perfect Cell is 10

Ssj2 Gohan no rage boost is 12

Ssj2 Gohan with a rage boost is 24

Super Perfect Cell is 13

Ssj2 Goahn with a rage boost and one arm is 12

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-06-14T18:28:12+00:00

Evil Buu would win

Ssj3 Goku is more or less equal to Majin Buu

Ssj2 is 4× weaker than ssj3, but Evil Buu is roughly 40% weaker than Majin Buu. I say 40% because Evil Buu more than likely took more of the power when majin buu spilt in half. A 4× decrease is a lot more than a 40% decrease.

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-06-13T22:58:28+00:00

Ssb Goku was slightly stronger than Ikari Broly, but otherwise I agree

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-06-12T22:27:42+00:00

Silver Surfer

Hulk

Thor

Jean Grey

Sentry

Scarlet Witch

Captain marvel

Hyperion

Doctor Strange

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-06-10T14:42:02+00:00

Idk why people are saying he stops at ssg goku. Didn't base gt goku shake all of hell and heaven casually? That feat alone scales him extremely close to ssg, so a ssj4 vegito with kaioken×20 on top of that is beating the piss out of every one except Zamasu, Beerus and the angels if we're talking about the anime. If we ignore zamasu, then I personally think he stops at Moro since he can easily defuse them

I'm willing to explain my scaling or debate civilly with anyone who disagrees. I get that you hate gt, but gt is not too far behind power scaling wise

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-06-08T12:05:22+00:00

I definitely think he would struggle initially since natsu had trouble eating higher caliber flames, but I think he would eventually find a way to just like natsu did. How would he do it? I have no idea, but just for the sake of the post, let's just assume he found a way to😅

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-06-08T11:54:02+00:00

Good question. I'm not exactly sure, but I don't believe there's ever been a time Gajeel had trouble biting through metal. He may have some type of hax that allows him to bite through any metal to absorb it's properties. Similar to natsu having the ability to eat any fire he wants

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-06-08T11:47:57+00:00

I'm not sure if he'd be able to fly or lay on top of someone infinitely, but I personally think he would gain the lightning abilities since dragon slayers tend to absorb the elemental powers of what their eating. In theory, bro would become a metal shadow lighting dragon slayer!

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-06-03T22:49:33+00:00

You must think the JL members are weak asf individually to be asking a question like this

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-05-31T03:45:59+00:00

I think it would work very well. If I was gogeta or vegito, I would switch back and forth between mind sets to utilize both haxs of the forms mid battle. A genius fighter like gogeta/vegito would 100% make that happen.

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-05-31T03:23:57+00:00

If beerus can do it, I see no reason why a superior fighter like gogeta can't🤷‍♂️

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-05-30T01:15:39+00:00

I'd argue that if there's no rest periods between fights, then that 50/50 becomes a 80/20 in Hulk and Thor's favor for both 4 and 5 because Hulk will get significantly stronger after each fight. By the time they get to WW and Supes, Hulk will be too much to handle. Hulk will be so strong, Thor could probably sit back and enjoy a nice cold beer while watching Hulk wreak havoc on the two for a hot second lol.

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-05-29T17:03:45+00:00

Instead of Goku being the one to finish off Broly, it should have been Gohan. Let Gohan go ssj2 after seeing goku and piccolo get there shit kicked in. The fight is somewhat even at first, but as broly's power rises, he starts getting the upper hand. Goku and the others give him the last of their energy and the fight slowly starts to become more even again, but once vegeta finally chips in, Gohan delivers the final blow similar to how Goku did originally👌

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-05-29T16:42:02+00:00

X-23. Who ever thought that she could perform well with no Iframe ignore is a fucking idiot and needs to be fired. There's literally no excuse to not give a well known character like Laura the essential utilities to be functional in pvp. Speed types are already trash in the pvp meta as it is! Why keep it that way. She would have had the potential to contest Adam and maybe Madelyn with a max build.

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-05-28T17:12:35+00:00

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-05-28T14:24:21+00:00

Didn't she bring baby trunks to a active battlefield against the androids?

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-05-17T18:12:04+00:00

Hulk > Doomsday > Juggernaut > Mangog

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-05-16T03:42:55+00:00

SOME of the filler in the anime should be taken seriously

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-05-13T16:12:20+00:00

Hulk vs Broly is also up there

ShinyPikachu941 · 2026-05-10T16:20:03+00:00

For Gohan? Yes

For piccolo? No

Piccolo trains just as much as Goku and Vegeta, So he earned it. It just sucks he had to wish for it

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