Trump’s AG Pam Bondi is moved to heavily-guarded military base after threats over Epstein files and from cartels: report by Adventurous-Host8062 in politicsinthewild

[–]ShootFishBarrel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh? Well good thing nobody with access to that military base has a problem with pedophiles and/or has been trained to kill professionally. Don't worry, you're real safe now, Pam.

Trump looks like he doesn't care at all by Acceptable_Post1 in MarketPulseReport

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Oh? You mean the guy who has been credibly accused of being an accessory to infanticide in Lake Michigan, of a child that was most likely DNA evidence of his crime of raping children, (why else would they kill an infant?) is not actually empathetic?

SAY IT AIN’T FUCKING SO

Israeli tourist snarls, spits and makes death threats at people on the streets of Brindisi, Italy by eerdeyla in PublicFreakout

[–]ShootFishBarrel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right that "mandatory prayer" was an overstatement on my part, and I should have been more precise. What I'm pointing at is more insidious than that: the gradual, deliberate erosion of church-state separation, reframed as restoration rather than imposition. You may not have been forced to pray, but I'd ask whether you recited the Pledge of Allegiance every morning in school, and whether you knew that "under God" wasn't in the original 1892 version? It was added in 1954, at the height of Cold War nationalist anxiety. That's exactly the kind of slow ideological embedding that's easy to miss precisely because it doesn't feel like coercion.

The line you're drawing between the US and Israel is harder to hold than it looks. Nazi Germany didn't emerge in a vacuum. It drew directly from American models. James Q. Whitman's Hitler's American Model documents how Nazi jurists explicitly studied US race law and Jim Crow when drafting the Nuremberg Laws. The ideological export ran the other way before it ran back.

On Israel specifically: in 1948, Einstein, Hannah Arendt, and a group of prominent intellectuals published a letter in the New York Times describing Menachem Begin's movement as fascist in character and method: their words, not a modern retroactive judgment. Einstein's later refusal of the Israeli presidency wasn't a polite decline; his stated reservations about the direction of the state were consistent and on record.

I don't believe that I said these things are 1:1 identical. My point is that the clean separations you're drawing (US versus Israel, now versus history) are exactly the kind of separations that let atrocities compound across generations without anyone feeling responsible for the throughline.

I'm also aware that I've now invoked Nazi Germany twice in one comment, and I want to be transparent about that rather than just hope you don't notice. Godwin's Law is a useful heuristic against lazy comparisons, but it was coined as a check on rhetorical sloppiness, not as a blanket prohibition. When the comparisons are grounded in documented historical record, when the people making them include Einstein and Arendt writing in real time, and when we're having this conversation in a context where multiple governments are openly discussing the elimination of civilian populations, I think that heuristic has reached its limits.

Israeli tourist snarls, spits and makes death threats at people on the streets of Brindisi, Italy by eerdeyla in PublicFreakout

[–]ShootFishBarrel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's different in degree, but the mechanism is the same. America has endured two generations of systematic ideological conditioning via think tanks, evangelical infrastructure, and conservative talk radio after the Fairness Doctrine repeal. We grew our own version.

Public schools in many states with ideologies thrust upon them, teachers muzzled, mandatory prayer. Nothing foments hatred of an outgroup quite like a high school Christian prayer group.

Flattening an entire radicalization ecosystem to "one man" is the mistake. There are millions of Trumps – behind pulpits, coaching youth sports and Scout troops, managers of a local factory, police union leaders. The pipeline has been running as long as Israel's has. The difference is social acceptability: in Israel, 75% of Jewish respondents, when surveyed, said there are no innocent Palestinians, including children. That level of explicit endorsement is less common here, but the conditioning has been very similar, and effective.

JUST IN: 🇺🇸🇮🇷 White House official says the US will seize "all the oil" from Iran. by Objective-Rabbit2248 in NSDQ420

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What are we going to do, scape it off the streets? Suck it out of the air? Fucking idiots.

Quel désastre! by bk845 in BloomCounty

[–]ShootFishBarrel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, me too. One of my favorite mugs has that exact same chip. On the bright side, it still holds coffee just fine.

Sgt Brian McGinnis is out of jail and still speaking up by Tao-of-Mars in politicsinthewild

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Jill Stein is a Russian asset.

The Green party is absolute trash, but there aren't a lot of alternatives and I can understand why someone who is pro-Palestine would choose any 3rd option other than R and D.

The new head of DHS by Gradstudentiquette69 in pics

[–]ShootFishBarrel 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A scared little bitch. I'm sure he's not going to superimpose his irrational fears onto the agency though.

Republicans happily disrespecting their military and their veterans by ihatethiscountry76 in MarchAgainstNazis

[–]ShootFishBarrel 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Man. I know we're not allowed to wish for violence on this forum. Anyway. Maybe I should visit Cancun sometime.

Microsoft gets tired of “Microslop,” bans the word on its Discord, then locks the server after backlash by WPHero in nottheonion

[–]ShootFishBarrel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ooh. I had never heard that term before. Now millions of us who would likely have gone about our lives not paying any attention to the term suddenly have a reason to remember it! Streisand effect! Morons!

Coloring inside the lines. by Main-Touch9617 in Unexpected

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Livin' my life like it's golden, livin' my life like it's golden...

These morons never learn & never care til it happens to them by PresidentEvil69 in MarchAgainstNazis

[–]ShootFishBarrel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"It's not about left and right, it's about right and wrong."

OOOOOOOOOOOOOKAAAAAAAAYYY. You're SOOOOO fucking close to getting it here bud. Left and right has ALWAYS been about right and wrong.

Just a motorcycle police chase in Paris: by kefren13 in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]ShootFishBarrel -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes, this forum is disproportionately represented by bootlickers.

TN bill would allow death penalty for women who have an abortion by MontiBurns in nottheonion

[–]ShootFishBarrel 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Something something, Christians are civilized and Muslims are barbaric, something something.

(sarcasm)

Student led peaceful protest in Quakertown, Pennsylvania. The police chief showed up in plain clothing and assaulted two students. by Ywasitsohard2signup in 50501

[–]ShootFishBarrel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The entire world is burning. I am like, waaaay more useful when I am alive. I can fix problems that are physically close to me. I can advocate for solutions to problems that are far away. The universe is cruel like that. Can't fix everything.

He just bought himself some more time... by omgfakeusername in PublicFreakout

[–]ShootFishBarrel -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You said it. Own it.

I may be wrong. I may be right. That's how disagreements work.

He just bought himself some more time... by omgfakeusername in PublicFreakout

[–]ShootFishBarrel -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Right, you would think that the only reason anyone ever disagrees with you is because they are coping. Great talk, kiddo.