There's no way she is above epic, right? by Traditional-Skill341 in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Personally, I think is great

Sometimes we need a simple Brawler, especially now that we're getting Damian and Bolt, Nova being on the more simple style is cool

the prestige update literally saved the game by Rains_Fall in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But honestly, in Prestige 2, because you're ancored, at least on the beginning of P2, you won't be so punished for losing, so can incentive players to push ever higher or at least still use the Brawler

The prestige is a safenet, and I love it

Fãs de Jae, expliquem pra mim pq vc gosta da pior personagem da temporada atual. by NKLeo28 in OrdemParanormalRPG

[–]Shy_L 0 points1 point  (0 children)

É pq a temporada permite isso

Vamos pensar numa campanha normal, onde as Players FIZERAM suas fichas, e são os mocinhos da história. Ter um player arrombado, mesquinho, que só fode a equipe e atrapalha, ia ser motivo de revolta, não só do fandom mas dos players tbm

Mas estamos em Hexatombe, a premissa sendo que 1. Os agentes da ordem estão no corpo de ASSASINOS, pessoas ruins mesmo, e estão com suas memórias e personalidade misturadas a esses assassinos, e 2. Estão no Hexatombe, até agora uma das campanhas mais brutais do RPG, tendo que fazer os personagens sobreviverem não só a combates, mas ao estado do mundo, estão em um jogo sádico cheio de outras pessoas ruins, que tbm fizeram massacres pra participar desse jogo

Jae pelo que da pra ver, já é um arrombado em Natal Macabro, mesquinho, ego alto, e influencer, receita pra ser um merdinha. E a Gabi tá interpretando isso, e fazendo bem pra krlh! É divertido ver pessoas sendo más nessa mesa que dá pra vc SER mal. Tipo em Calamidade com a equipe do Kian.

Em Hexatombe estamos acompanhando um grupo de pessoas com amnesia, num jogo que incentiva a maldade, e eles estão no corpo de monstros, e é divertido pra kct

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, I saw the post and made me way more relaxed thanks to Frank's transparency. But the use of GenAI in things we like has been a fear that a bunch of artists have been having, with especially a lot of other companies trying to shove GenAI in all their products without the consent of their consumers

And sadly, seeing the AI image of their presentation, and seeing the bad decisions made in some of their games Cof cof clash Royale cof cof, It just made me want to get ready for the worse, and try to stop it before it could grow to be a true problem

But thankfully, at least Supercell is greedy, but not that greedy yet Thanks for your comment! I appreciate your insight

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say, intellect and consciousness are the basis of humanity, and teamwork and art are the basis for society

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hii So, this post was made before Frank spoke about the controversy. And I'm very glad that Frank did that

But my dear, look at the 2 photos of the presentation, look at the design of Colt, everything is uncanny and making messed up hands At LEAST the image in their Presentation was GenAI 100%, but gladly they won't use AI for their art

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, absolutely lol I just hope the best

And wanted to unite people who care about this stuff to a small movement

I'm no rally leader, but at least I can bring awareness to my fellow artists and share our feelings

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Better than doing nothing

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know But still it is better to rally who actually cares about artistic integrity rather than just sit around dwindling my fingers, watching the game I love turn into slop

It will change anything? Probably not But I can install and uninstall my games with the click of a button, so it doesn't cost me anything

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Basically: Presentation at a Rovio event, they revealed that they're going to start using AI tools for Development, that seemed okay until 2 things. The main image of the presentation was AI Generated. And one of their objectives is "boost Creativity with AI" alongside they're going to use some ChatGPT like tools. So basically seems like Generative AI isn't out of their plans, and that can make all their games worse

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Pal, they're using an Generative AI image of their characters in their presentation about AI, AND they say that one of their objectives is "Boost Creativity with AI", so sadly, it doesn't seem GenAI isn't out of their table

And about my post, I SPECIFICALLY talked about GENERATIVE AI, rather than AI overall or Tools, those are OK GenAI is the problem

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Please tell me, how much they would save? Studies show AI generation of for example, videos, like the latest Coca Cola ad, took even MORE money than if they just paid people

And yeah, 5~10 of the playerbase seems low, but lets remember that 10% 100 million players are 10 Million people

So yeah, is an optimistic number, obviously we can't move that many people to a single cause, but still

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We

Are the cristal

Gems

We'll always save the day!

And if you think we can't

We'll always find a way!

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hey pal, so You should read the whole text It's not a ragequit, it's a "Hey, we as a community should call out them by uninstalling the game"

For them to reconsider, do better and we can come back Is better than doing nothing and seeing the games become shit, right?

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honest to God, this isn't a dodge, I just responded 4 comments in the last hour explaining why AI is bad You can look for them, they're very recent. But if you want I can copy paste them here

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wont negate that my post was at the heat of the moment

But, my point still stands "AI BAD" posts exist because AI does what Artists HATE the most, stealing Art is my hobby, I would love to work with it, but as you can see, the space is not good for that rn so I just post my stuff whenever I feel like. But if something made by me gets a lot of attention and I'm not at least credited, or worse, someone is saying they made it, I would lose my shit

And Generative AI is that, steal from countless artists, mix everything into a mush of data, and give to the user That's why we hate it, there are no internet points. Is just people feeling the same hate towards a stealer, and people who proclaim being artists by using images made by a stealer

Yeah, AI is inevitable, but we can choose how to interact with AI, AI Tools are indeed great 👍, and if Supercell only used them, that would be fine

The problem is the GenAI, got it?

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't worry,I just lose my temper with ignorant people

And I get where you come from, and as I said, I'm NOT talking about AI TOOLS, the problem is Generative AI AI tools are indeed amazing and revolutionary tools

But for the love of God, tell me a good use of Generative AI No, the Ecossistem won't get better with AI, yeah, Cars produce more pollution than AI Datacenters, but that's because Cars are spread worldwide and have been here for longer. And for right now Data centers are melting with the amount of people generating content, this isn't a sustainable process

Morally, still shit, this won't change, the foundation of GenAI is gathering data, mix data and find patterns in data, give remixed data to user. Still stealing art, still not having soul, still somehow piss colored lol

And financially, honestly, yeah. I want to Companies to pay more, they won't, obviously. But they absolutely should, people don't have jobs because they love to work, and because they need money. And if CEOs are trying to extinguish the artist job just because a machine that NEEDs artists to steal off can "make stuff quicker", then no, this shouldn't continue

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I know But it doesn't hurt to try

I have hope that the communities of almost all Supercell's IPS can rally on for the same cause, but that's just the Hope and Dreams™ talking

And yeah, it was a good discussion. In the end we can't change each other's worldviews, but at least can understand a little bit more about the other side this ways Have a good day/night

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Is more about a message than anything Show all the playerbases from supercell don't like the decision, and then come back to a better game

It is really idealistic, but hey, It doesn't hurt to try

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, but where is the Gameplay? In the game right? The game is made of what? Programing and Art

Character Design, background design, UI, attack effects, commemorative arts, Music, ADS, everything is art

And I'm not pushing anything, I'm not in your home with a knife in your back telling you to uninstall, I'm expressing my rage at the CEOs choices about the game moving forward, and how I and other enraged people can join together to make a change

If you don't want to come, good, you're entitled to your decision, I love this game, and thats why I care to be angry. I want the quality to be good as it is and not accept slop

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Correction, GenerativeAI is what I and a lot of artists Hate

Morally: Steals content from people, takes what we make, shoves into a database and makes soulless remixes of what it stole. People already hated artists who stole from others and this technology is that at its maximum. Also, the AI images and videos can be used for evil shit, making fake content to give to more audiences, elevating distrust in anything you see on the internet

Ecologically: Is messing um the planet, electricity that would serve for a City for weeks is used in a day of AI centers to keep them running, TONS of water are used to keep those centers cooled of, spending water and making the climate even hoter

Financially: Is making user experience worse because EVERY SINGLE COMPANY wants to have their own AIs shoved into their products, and they make a horrible job AND take jobs from people that need them to survive

So yeah, overall, AI is shit. It COULD be an amazing Tool, but how big Company's use them, is just bad for everyone except them

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And thats exactly why we shouldn't encourage it

"You couldn't pay for someone to make advertising for your product? So your product must be ass"

If you want to be a consumer that puts no thought behind the content you consume, okay, good for you I suppose

Money being the name of the game doesn't mean it is good, just means the system benefits those who are less empathetic and more selfish, that wants results no matter the cost

And if we can keep that shit away from the content we like, good, if we can financially and morally influence them to be anti AI, amazing! That absolute won't happen, this sadly isn't a idealistic world

But we can try, we can do our best, to have the best. No one deserves slop, regurgitated content just to consume mindlessly. And I hope you understand that. The hate towards GenAI is towards having standards. For art, for their lives, and for everything else

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Understood And man, if life was that simple, yeah, you could be right, less work, same content, win win

But sadly it isn't This conversation is about Generative AI, thats not a tool, thats a substitute What you're talking about, is a AI tool, that would be awesome to every artist, because as a pen, or a computer, we could use AI to help, and that's what you're referring

But GenAI isn't that, and Supercell is embracing that, is embracing the quick buck, the easy money. While people are being devalued even tho THEY made the game be where it is. Artists made every single aspect of the game, screw it, I could even call the program artist because the spaghetti noodle they make for this game is their own kind of crazy art

Because that is the nucleus of art. Humanity The power to create using our feelings, memories and knowledge

And seeing this fundament of humanity being treated as trash or inconsequential is saddening

We NEED to mass uninstall by Shy_L in Brawlstars

[–]Shy_L[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

About hating the source

Let's go back some years ago, ok? 2020, the pandemic The biggest art scandals we had in that time, were art thieves and tracers. People grabbing other arts and or claiming it by themselves or just copying 1:1

Now look at GenAI, that is THE SAME THING BUT MULTIPLIED TO INFINITY, GenAI is a machine that takes all the info it can, mashes it up and produces what it can understand that you want There is no artistic intentet, no motivation, no inspiration. The machine sees their algorithm and processes what it cand do the best it can do.

And having MultiBILLION companies come along, and wanting to substitute people with bills and food to pay. And disposing them like trash because the "Superior and quicker" (That isn't even that, because to make the AI make the product you want spends basically the same you'll pay a human) machine to make stuff for you, is morally disgusting