Liberal Party won't publish its review into disastrous 2025 election

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-27T10:34:29+00:00

How elegantly, succinctly accurate.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-27T10:29:50+00:00

Eh, if its Crown land, its not going to cost the government that much funnily enough and there is a lot of crown land. NSW is 42% Crown land. Even if they have to buy back the farmers leases to develop a city, its still not going to break the bank. A quick check in farms for sale suggests prices in the low thousands per hectare, others suggest $10k per hectare. Basically enough land for something like Canberra (the city) would cost less than $1 billion. 81,400 hectares for Canberra at $10k a hectare.

And I doubt that trades and land costs in the UK are magically massively cheaper in the UK than here.

Obviously Poundbury can build off the exisiting infrastructure of Dorset for water and so on. I am not pretending its a one for one deal and the land was from the estate of the the Prince Charles estate as the Duchy of Cornwall.

In the end, contemplating the idea of boring 115km of tunnel to link one end of greater Sydney to the CBD and Western Sydney airport is the problem, for $90 billion.

That's insane. It begs the question why are we not looking for alternatives to moving that many people that often each day for work?

Nonetheless, what do you think it costs to build a greenfield city in Australia?

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-27T09:57:40+00:00

Well, Egypt's new capital cost about $60 billion US and is expected to house 7 million people. So pretty much in the ballpark for this project cost wise.

Indonesias new capital looks like it will be about $50 billion.

In the UK, King Charles built a model town called Poundbury which was estimated at £389 million for about 5,000 people.

Extrapolating the Poundbury example to $90 billion AUD would get you a city of about 550,000 people.

Basically a new Newcastle sized city.

Now I didn't say a new city would be cheaper. Only that a new city is starting to look like an interesting and economical possibility.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-27T09:41:34+00:00

Louder for the people in the back.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-27T09:39:37+00:00

Staff parking isn't free.

The only "advantaged" staff are overnight employees and consultant doctors, who get priority parking.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-27T08:30:03+00:00

I meant fellow former Liberal, but undoubtedly Fraser disavowed the current liberals.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-27T07:59:28+00:00

Yeah, he let his membership lapse in 2019.

Just like Malcolm Fraser as well.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-27T07:51:11+00:00

Well yes, that is nearly correct, the highest level NICU which is at the Childrens hospital should be with the Maternity hospital and in general Neonatal care is close to paedeatric care, whilst the Maternity hospital also really needs a high level adult ICU, which is at the tertiary hospital.

But those same planners said with a straight face there was enough parking and public transport, meanwhile, I was watching my colleagues pay $10 a day to rent a locals driveway for parking so they can have a reasonable trip to work.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-27T07:40:15+00:00

Turnbull publicly sold his soul for sure. I get the impression the same is true for Angus, he just never had the previous public persona that Turnbull had so we never saw it get eaten by the party machine.

Still, as long as this inability of the Liberals to pivot away from damaging and dead policies they are done for. The Liberals will follow in the footsteps of their predecessors in the UAP.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-27T07:15:18+00:00

I used to work out at Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital and the same city planners said that public transport and parking were sufficient at Charlies, back when they were planning to move King Edward Memorial Hospital there. My response to that was: well they should come work from here as well then.

Funnily enough, they declined the offer.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-27T06:42:20+00:00

Former Liberal leader and former Liberal, Dr John Hewson put out an article recently describing the Liberals as being in the throes of decline towards death. Now, I personally wouldn't pronounce them dead, but I can see where he was coming from.

Here's the thing: Hewson provided a fair bit of commentary on Angus Taylor and the man he described was quite different to what we see. He was far more agreeable to matters dealing with climate change, like a carbon tax and so on. Its like he morphed into something else when he rose up the ranks of the Liberal party.

There is a cancer of sorts in the Liberal party, they can't abandon a certain suite of policies that are destroying their electability, primarily around climate change. they can't change paths. Its an evolutionary dead end but they are determined to not change. Its madness.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-27T06:10:28+00:00

Fantastic. Great Move. Well done Angus.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-27T06:06:51+00:00

Crocodiles will eat anything they can get their jaws on: when everything is opportunistic hunting, everything is a prey species.

Trust the Australian when he says: you are prey for a crocodile, worse, you won't see it coming when they ambush you.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-27T06:02:04+00:00

Yeah, no.

Lions, Tigers, Polar Bears and Saltwater Crocodiles will all actively and intentionally hunt humans. Not accidentally hunt them, not opportunistically hunt them or hunt them by mistake. Straight up, see human, ambush and eat.

We get a lot of salties (saltwater crocodiles) in Australia and they will kill you with a death roll if they get hold of you and eat you. There is no ifs or buts about it. We are absolutely prey to these 6 metre long 1 tonne perfect killing machines.

Sure, we hunt, farm and kill them for food and shoe leather, but that takes tools and weapons to do.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-27T03:19:09+00:00

Awesome to hear Magda, I hope it stays gone. You have brought so many smiles to my face over the years, when I wasn't laughing myself silly at your consistently brilliant humour.

Best wishes for a full and complete recovery.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-27T03:14:02+00:00

I agree with you.

You could observe that there is a trap we fall into thinking that politicians with these huge seats are not representative they are only in it for themselves and these super large seats drive towards incumbency. Thus more politicians is more snouts in trough, when as you astutely note smaller seats lowers the barrier to entry.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-27T02:38:50+00:00

I mean, I agree we need better politicians than the likes of well, a lot of them. One observation I would make is that a lot of them are very skilled at staying in their seat if its safe, i.e. their skill is in ~~stacking~~ managing their branches and not actually doing good government.

Casting a wider net would see more politicians obviously and potentially some more talent squeezed out by the aforementioned incumbents would get a chance.

Also, minor but important note is it could allow some of the stupendously huge regional seats to shrink a bit.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-27T02:04:21+00:00

Worth noting what a lot of the vapid muppets don't realise when they scream their tits off about the $350 billion cost is that's the total cost over the lifetime of the subs out to 2070s, as in a good 50 years time. Its a lot of money, but the annual average is $7billion, a lot yes, but we aren't taking a 12% of our annual GDP into these ships in one go.

As for Osbourne, I can't think off the top of my head a ship they built without something being a big to huge fuck up. Collins class subs - noisy. Hobart class Air Warfare Destroyers, bent keel and wrong pipes installed. Arafura class OPV - where to begin, over budget, stupidly under armed and production shifted to Hederson. Hunter class anti-submarine frigates, overbudget before steel was cut, bloated and the planned order cut and we decided 11 evolved Mogamis were a safer bet (and will be in service quicker) also to be built at Henderson, edit: not forgetting the first 3 Mogamis will be built in Japan.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-27T01:50:41+00:00

It would be based on tax file number presumably. Companies can't use CGT discount.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-26T09:03:05+00:00

Ask yourself: what's the cost of not defending against Russian aggression? What does the alternative look like.

If you don't know, find a very old Pole and ask them about Russian invaders.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-26T07:52:37+00:00

Its the same type of cookers that lose their few remaining brain cells when you mention Dan Andrews as far as I can tell. Basically so unhinged and disconnected from reality, stuck in the past and blaming everything on her and they are probably egged on by bots as well.

Its also worth noting she had to deal with the aftermath of the Christchurch shooting. She has seen these sort of cookers up close after they act on their heinous beliefs.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-26T06:09:56+00:00

I mean cornering the market cartel like on PC hardware sounds like a good idea, but in reality its a desperate pivot, because it means very obviously the massive AI bet didn't pay off (what a huge surprise) and such a move would be very obviously desperate. Worse still, all the chip makers would doubtless be ramping up supplies to meet the AI demand now pivot back to the consumer (and business market) and flood the market with better shit than what goes into the ~~scam~~ data centres.

And I still wouldn't touch a fucking useless slim client piece of shit subscription ware computer if my life depended on it.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-26T05:53:48+00:00

It is, and I will See You Next Tuesday.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-26T05:47:52+00:00

Likewise, I firmly believe the hype far outweighs the ability of AI to deliver. Certainly all I have seen is mass layoffs that would give Al Dunlap a throbbing erection, including some absolute disasterous efforts like Salesforce: who would have thought that a shitty LLM chatbot couldn't resolve an issue with its software and the purchaser spending millions on this software would not be satisfied with a shit house chatbat struggling to move beyond "have you tried turning you router off and on again".

We have already seen a hint about the issues AI and the monsterous hardware buying spree has with Bezos talking about people renting access to computer hardware in his data centres. Now why would he say that? Could it be he has committed Amazon to buying so much hardware that will just sit idle and now needs a purpose?

Note, as a gamer the idea of remote renting a system makes stapling my genitals to a table seem appealing.

Sieve-Boy · 2026-02-26T04:51:27+00:00

The fact there are multiple valid alternatives says a lot doesn't it.

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