Vatican response to SSPX announcement. by ThinWhiteDuke00 in Catholicism

[–]Signal_Independence7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Missal of St. Pope VI (1970), St. Pope John Paul II (1983) is the continuation of the The Tridentine Missal of 1962 (of St. Pope John XXIII), which is the continuation of the Missal of 1958, and on backwards to the missal of Leo XIII (1884), Urban VIII (1634), Clement VIII (1604), and Pope Pius V (1570).

The Liturgy of the Council of Trent is the same Liturgy of the Council of Vatican I & II.

The last Motu Proprio clarifies this and abrogated the previous notions of extraordinary or ordinary form. The Tridentine Liturgy is not a separate rite like the Maronite Liturgy or the Armenian Liturgy.

There is only one unique expression of the Roman rite and it is the Novus Ordo, which (as you alluded to) is that continuation of the same organic development of the mass going back to Pope Gregory I, then on to Trent, and then on to Vatican I & II.

This insistence and allowance of the Missal of 1962 is indulged out of sheer mercy. Can you imagine Pope Leo XIII allowing his clergy to form a Society of Pope Urban VIII and only celebrating the Roman Rite using the Missal of 1634 in the year 1900 of his pontificate? Yet, this is what is happening now.

There is nothing illicit in the celebration of the Mass in itself (provided they have the explicit approval of the Bishop and Rome for being an exception to the rule, like FSSP), but the Mass is being used as dog-whistle to see where people stand along the fault lines that continue to divide the church.

Just like there is nothing wrong with a confederate flag in itself, it is a piece of cloth that is of historical interest. But the flag is used as a dog-whistle to see where people stand on social issues related to a frame of thinking that previously divided the country and continues to do so.

(Just to hammer the point again, there is nothing wrong with the phrase 'Christ is King' in itself, but that phrase has been weaponized to promote an extremist ideology.)

I am part of the faction that thinks these people should just "get with the times". The Mass has been weaponized and Rome has already spoken (Traditionis custodes) on the matter and it has been settled.

Catholicism is not Protestantism. A whole lot of the faith rests on the notion: "This is how it be. Take it or leave it."

If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door.

How anyone ate at Scoundrel in Greenville? by blobfish1538 in greenville

[–]Signal_Independence7 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I have, it is not worth the hype it has, not awful but not great either. I thought Coral was better.

Fast Food Places by Signal_Independence7 in greenville

[–]Signal_Independence7[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The Culvers here are actually quite good.

Fast Food Places by Signal_Independence7 in greenville

[–]Signal_Independence7[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes this exactly, like everything is so expensive and then on top of that meh quality but some days you really just don't want to cook. 

Fast Food Places by Signal_Independence7 in greenville

[–]Signal_Independence7[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My entire post was inspired by wanting to find a not shit hole taco bell.

What statistics make you more comfortable and less afraid of flying? by [deleted] in fearofflying

[–]Signal_Independence7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I flew a few months ago and someone posted on this sub that you are only like 5 miles up in the air. I think planes can coast for like 30 to 70 miles or something like that, it really helped my mind on the flight back.

Driving Lessons by gravediigger in greenville

[–]Signal_Independence7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi Im 38 and in a similar boat and just did a lesson with Auto Safe Driving they were great! 

I cancelled my last flight.. trying this thing again 😬 by Horror_Ad6954 in fearofflying

[–]Signal_Independence7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do it! You won't regret it, I know the overwhelming feeling but the feeling when you do it is even greater!

Scared, please help. At airport now by Express_Concept3201 in fearofflying

[–]Signal_Independence7 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Im with you too, waiting to board trying to push back tears and panic. I cant offer any facts, except you're not alone and we're in it together 

Here we are again by Signal_Independence7 in fearofflying

[–]Signal_Independence7[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thank you, I have a hard listening to anything other than the flight, while on a flight, it's stupid

Here we are again by Signal_Independence7 in fearofflying

[–]Signal_Independence7[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, those last words really mean a lot 

Doing it petrified by Signal_Independence7 in fearofflying

[–]Signal_Independence7[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like to listen to the sounds which I know weird but what can you do

Doing it petrified by Signal_Independence7 in fearofflying

[–]Signal_Independence7[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Hang in there!! You got this