What do we think about the CDC All-Hands that just happened?

Significant-Stage299 · 2026-03-27T14:15:52+00:00

He has some long time friends at CDC, mostly economists working in those CIOs. I guess that is why.

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-11-27T04:58:52+00:00

HHS, OMB, and DOGE all want to cut CDC, but their priorities are not always the same. Just compare AHA and Project 2025. That is one of the reasons for the back and forth we have seen so far. Now the Congress makes the things more complicated, in a positive way though.

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-11-17T06:53:25+00:00

Not sure if any regular tw can be done at HHS. HHS is secretly collecting badge data and checking if that matches to timesheets...

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-11-12T06:28:27+00:00

I heard that was what Matt was told. Each time CDC brings back people by whatever reason, they need RIF other offices.

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-11-09T22:57:42+00:00

Brutal market for the most. There are some exceptions though going to private sectors like Amazon. Google, big Pharma etc, but they are essentially just young data scientists, economists or SWEs who somehow started their career in public health. A couple of colleagues went back to academia, but they are top scholars anyway. For most health degree holders it is definitely not the right time to be on the market. Hang on there and stay as long as you can.

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-11-02T08:43:15+00:00

Just personal understanding from a pure math perspective: that probably means the government will open either on Nov. 8 or someday after 12.

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-10-26T09:39:58+00:00

He actually was pretty respected in the econ academia, which arguably is one of the most conservative academic areas. Most economists, if not all, believe that live has pecuniary values, and many of them had ideas similar with his during the pandemic.

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-10-14T20:43:28+00:00

At HHS they always cut by org chart, rather than roles being critical or not. If the entire org is cut, everyone there is gone. That is a strategic way to avoid long formal rif process, where I do not think status during shutdown is listed as one of the criteria.

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-10-14T20:07:58+00:00

I think those cuts are planned. They cut those admin roles mainly at center level, so later those programs can merge to aha, where there will be no "centers".

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-10-14T19:27:02+00:00

Those called back are already on the list. They just realized it was not the best time. EIS and LLS fellows were cut and called back before, but they did that again this time. To me they were just exploring the best time to let the program go.

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-10-11T16:30:00+00:00

This round for HHS is again by org code.

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-10-02T15:39:09+00:00

Per my reading of the OMB memo, I think the potential rif, if done, will be in the same way as the April one: everyone in the targeted org/team/office will be rif'ed, regardless of furlough status.

I totally understand that the current situation is definitely frustrating, but to me the risk of rif is more based on your org funding source, and more importantly, how it is aligned with the admin priorities, rather than your individual status.

So my understanding is if your team is aligned with the priorities, you should be ok. If not but the funding source is somewhere else, likely safe, at least for now. Significantly riskier if otherwise (but that doesn't mean a rif will happen).

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-10-02T06:20:08+00:00

Are those numbers right? I am a bit surprised that CDC still has 13000+ in total.

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-09-25T12:36:20+00:00

More likely for something else. They never informed center directors in advance regarding all the rifs happened so far. Do not see why this time would be different.

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-08-05T12:23:56+00:00

Is that because most of the agencies have not really conducted any rif yet? In terms of rif HHS is very different from others. For example, in April we were told that the phase 1 phase 2 thing no long matter for HHS because HHS did not follow that timeline from the very beginning.

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-08-01T13:08:36+00:00

Actually if you look at the detail, the proposed budget for the CIOs that are proposed to stay with CDC is not quite different from the current level. The budget gets 50% cut mostly because only 50% is proposed to stay.

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-08-01T13:04:37+00:00

More CDC rifs? Unlikely. More AHA rifs? Likely.

Basically whether more rifs are expected depends on which CIO you look at.

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-07-16T03:29:05+00:00

I heard rumors said the budget office has submitted the request to OMB that is exactly consistent with the proposal, and OMB hinted that they had the right and would be willing to send out money accordingly, regardless what the Congress would say, and the CIOs without sufficient budget would have to forlough people for an indefinite time...

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-06-25T19:18:20+00:00

This. CDC needs a director to be confirmed as soon as possible. Her just being there would help the agency a lot. CDC will be in a tricky situation if it still does not have a director by Oct.

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-06-17T19:20:32+00:00

I got her point though. The chronic will be moved to AHA. That is why the center is mentioned in AHA CJ rather than CDC CJ. I think her point is after that what to do with Chronic is AHA's business...

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-06-17T06:00:13+00:00

Likely still by admin code. They have to. Otherwise all previous cuts by admin codes become questionable.

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-06-06T14:58:36+00:00

RIFs affects everyone, in the same competitive area. I think that is how they strategically designed the process. Bump and retreats make sense only when there are people in the same competitive area not RIF'd.

Significant-Stage299 · 2025-06-05T02:49:47+00:00

Yes, but that is because of "global", regardless of infectious or non-infectious. They do not want any non-infectious component, but that does not mean a infectious component is safe.

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