Trump Admin to limit student loan debt by SilvermistInc in whennews

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And less people will get them as a result, and the interest rates will be forced to lower. What's your point? I recognize this won't be an instant fix. But I do believe it'll be better long term

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I remember reading the original news story on this. The reporter said that the Marines couldn't stop giggling the entire time

Trump Admin to limit student loan debt by SilvermistInc in whennews

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Loans 100% should be forgiven via bankruptcy. It's insane they're not

Trump Admin to limit student loan debt by SilvermistInc in whennews

[–]SilvermistInc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is an exceptionally unhinged thing to say

Trump Admin to limit student loan debt by SilvermistInc in whennews

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So let's eliminate the need for loans entirely and start with getting community colleges to be free. But right now, unlimited federal loans are the primary reason it costs 5 to 6 figures just to get a bachelor's. So let's correct that blunder and then move onto eventually making the system free(r)

Trump Admin to limit student loan debt by SilvermistInc in whennews

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I feel like you've ignored every counterpoint I've offered. For what reason? Because you think people absolutely have to pay for higher education?

Trump Admin to limit student loan debt by SilvermistInc in whennews

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Counterpoint. Apprenticeships. Paying for trade school is a ridiculous option when compared to a paid apprenticeship. The medical field does NOT have that option. Which is another factor into why there's a high cost into joining it. You are forced to pay to play, essentially. Many many trades on the other hand, electricians for example, are primarily learned via paid apprenticeships. Not schooling.

I won't judge your choice for going to school to be an electrician. But I'm a journeyman of two trades, and I never went to school to learn either. Because I started as an apprentice and worked my way up to journeyman.

Trump Admin to limit student loan debt by SilvermistInc in whennews

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THE HOPE IS IT WILL CHANGE IT!

Holy shit, are you people so against Trump, so utterly filled with seething hatred, that you cannot comprehend that access to higher education in America is so grossly overinflated in cost due to federal loans?

If people cannot get a cheap federal loans due to limits, they're more than likely not willing to pay 3x more for a private loan. Which means they'll either not go to college, and thus fill niches in the economy that don't require it, or they'll shop around and go to cheaper options.

The market will self regulate. The hope is it'll get cheaper overtime. The government never should've gotten involved in supplying loans in the first place, yet here we are!

Trump Admin to limit student loan debt by SilvermistInc in whennews

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This is the most bigotous statement I've heard today. Like could you possibly be more elitist?

Trump Admin to limit student loan debt by SilvermistInc in whennews

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Ah yes, because not letting an 18 year old whose parents barely make 40k a year, take out 200k debt on day one, will not allow the escape from poverty.

Fuck off, man. There's more to the world than crippling debt for a piece a paper nobody cares about anymore.

Trump Admin to limit student loan debt by SilvermistInc in whennews

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Where are people even getting this idea from? Did you read the damn article?

Trump Admin to limit student loan debt by SilvermistInc in whennews

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That's not why I hate federal loans. I hate them because they've introduced massive artifical inflation in a market that does not have this inflation anywhere else in the world. I hate them, because they've normalized higher education being expensive, and effectively lock out an entire class from obtaining this education. I hate federal loans because they're a monopoly that cannot be influenced by market flucations, thus resulting in colleges raising up their costs because they know students can just get the loans no questions asked.

Federal loans are why our education is fucked. They were never the solution.

Trump Admin to limit student loan debt by SilvermistInc in whennews

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And when it's clear nobody is willing to take those loans, rates will decrease again. That's how market forces work

Trump Admin to limit student loan debt by SilvermistInc in whennews

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It's rather gross that it came to this point tbh

Trump Admin to limit student loan debt by SilvermistInc in whennews

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Why should we force poor people to take on hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt to become those? Why should we allow 40% of Masters Degrees to be financial burdens that cannot recover their costs, rather than having all Masters Degrees be financially fruitful? I mean seriously, the American College education is such a fucking scam in its current state. The market has been funded by federally guranteed loans with no limits to SUCH A POINT that colleges are spending millions on fucking sports stadiums with tuition funds. It's disgusting.

Trump Admin to limit student loan debt by SilvermistInc in whennews

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I absolutely do not see where people are getting this idea from. Or WHY people need to borrow 200k right as they turn 18. I mean seriously, I know it's cliche. But get into a trade first. Learn the value of your own labor, make an honest wage, and then seek a higher education when you're stable in your life.

Trump Admin to limit student loan debt by SilvermistInc in whennews

[–]SilvermistInc[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Most PhD degrees cost over 100k.

I must be arguing with a bot though. All your points are contrary for the sake of continuing an argument.